Found Safe TN - SLP, 14, Madisonville, Monroe County, 13 Jan 2019 #4 *ARRESTS*

[Misngpersresearcher]

BBM

I'm of the opinion that Mom believed her, somewhere within herself. She just didn't want to believe her. She couldn't believe her.
She was a SAHM, so her financial livelihood was tied to RP, and I suspect she has certain personality traits that made her a prime target for grooming, both herself and her kids. Any self esteem she did have was probably torn down by RP a long time ago.
She couldn't accept and take action on something that would implode her world.

'I’m just as simple as anybody else, I mean I am just a typical nobody, just like everybody else.'

Sadly, this happens all the time. Predators go to great lengths to make sure their victims are put in a position where they have to make terrible choices.

This isn't a bash on Mom, I just don't think it's as simple as not believing her.

I may be WAY off base, but that's my take on it right now.

And I read that they were separated for a while, a divorce was filed by him. I am going to go back and find the links to that...but it supports your post about the mom being put in a financial and emotional abuse situation.

I am in NO way excusing mom's behavior. I want to be clear on that.

 

[oviedo]

And I read that they were separated for a while, a divorce was filed by him. I am going to go back and find the links to that...but it supports your post about the mom being put in a financial and emotional abuse situation.

I am in NO way excusing mom's behavior. I want to be clear on that.

I posted the divorce docket a few threads ago. It was dismissed.

 

[oviedo]

TN - SLP, 14, Madisonville, Media, Maps and Timelines *NO DISCUSSION*

This is her media thread - lots of good MSM information regarding the case and is updated pretty regularly thanks to @PommyMommy and a few others.

 

[human]

And if LE is following the example of JC (no charges in the County she was found in thus not much disclosure of her 88 days) perhaps there will be no further detailed charges for BR? I don't know. Perhaps one of our attorneys may chime in? @gitana1 ?

JC’s case needed no further charges as the killer killed two people. A couple of murders is enough on top of the kidnapping.

He is not going anywhere. BRD, on the other hand, needs additional charges to keep him where he should be if there are additonal charges.

 

[human]

How much will LE take into account of SP's description and interpretation of the events from the time he picked her up and got her to Wisconsin and the time that LE recovered her from the basement?

Will they disregard her account because she is a minor if her account does not support the prevailing opinion on here that he is a manipulative predator at best? The fact he broke the law is a given and the sentencing on the federal level is clear. But if LE does not give her account credence won't they be doing what adults have been doing all along, not believing her?

Like I said before, SP's account of what transpired could really complicate the picture.

What exactly is there not to be believed? He took her across state lines. She is 14, he is 31. He is in possession of a rape tape.

They have emails.

He is in possession of child .

She is 14. A child. He is 31. A full grown man.

 

[Misngpersresearcher]

I hope this isint perceived as mom bashing.

When RP and CP were being interviewed while SLP was still missing they stated they couldn't think of any reason she would run away.

Come on...no reason? You can't think of ANY reason? I'd say in light of what is known now it's a pretty big reason.

 

[Rosiebones]

In my comment, note that I said "The fact he broke the law is a given and the sentencing on the federal level is clear." I agree with you there. My comment was, what if SP's description and interpretation of events are not as negative as we perceive them. Example: she says that she wanted to be undiscovered for two weeks because he made her feel safe. ( and we don't know one way or another) and she didn't want to go back and that is why she hid when LE came down. How is that looked at by the powers that be? LE etc.

 

[StarEyes]

BBM

I'm of the opinion that Mom believed her, somewhere within herself. She just didn't want to believe her. She couldn't believe her.
She was a SAHM, so her financial livelihood was tied to RP, and I suspect she has certain personality traits that made her a prime target for grooming, both herself and her kids. Any self esteem she did have was probably torn down by RP a long time ago.
She couldn't accept and take action on something that would implode her world.

'I’m just as simple as anybody else, I mean I am just a typical nobody, just like everybody else.'

Sadly, this happens all the time. Predators go to great lengths to make sure their victims are put in a position where they have to make terrible choices.

This isn't a bash on Mom, I just don't think it's as simple as not believing her.

I may be WAY off base, but that's my take on it right now.

I understand your point. I guess I’ve just always thought out this scenario if I’d had kids. No matter how much it gutted me, I’d at least ask him to leave the house until it’s investigated properly. But, I have a confrontational personality, and the Mom doesn’t seem to. RP is just insidious. jmo

 

[human]

In my comment, note that I said "The fact he broke the law is a given and the sentencing on the federal level is clear." I agree with you there. My comment was, what if SP's description and interpretation of events are not as negative as we perceive them. Example: she says that she wanted to be undiscovered for two weeks because he made her feel safe. ( and we don't know one way or another) and she didn't want to go back and that is why she hid when LE came down. How is that looked at by the powers that be? LE etc.

He is an adult. She is a child. It does not matter what she wants. Harboring a child is against the law. You cannot keep a minor in your home

 

[oviedo]

In my comment, note that I said "The fact he broke the law is a given and the sentencing on the federal level is clear." I agree with you there. My comment was, what if SP's description and interpretation of events are not as negative as we perceive them. Example: she says that she wanted to be undiscovered for two weeks because he made her feel safe. ( and we don't know one way or another) and she didn't want to go back and that is why she hid when LE came down. How is that looked at by the powers that be? LE etc.

I am not LE and don't know that much about the criminal codes in that state, but in this case, IMO LE will not take into account anything she says about her stay with BR unless he broke the law. I just don't think LE has the leeway to allow her feelings to sway what they can and cannot arrest for - I don't know but it just seems like they cannot. Perhaps the prosecutor can if it comes to that (local, not federal). I think the federal prosecutors have more information we do not have and there wont' be any leniency IMO.

 

[Rosiebones]

I am not trying to win a point, I am just inquiring as to whether anyone has any experience as to whether her story (if it should be favorable to him) as she will tell it, has any influence on how he might be charged on state charges. The federal charges are a given.

 

[Rosiebones]

I am not LE and don't know that much about the criminal codes in that state, but in this case, IMO LE will not take into account anything she says about her stay with BR unless he broke the law. I just don't think LE has the leeway to allow her feelings to sway what they can and cannot arrest for - I don't know but it just seems like they cannot. Perhaps the prosecutor can if it comes to that (local, not federal). I think the federal prosecutors have more information we do not have and there wont' be any leniency IMO.

Thank you, that was helpful and makes sense.

 

[girlhasnoname]

These crimes have absolutely been committed and he may go away for a very long time.

However, not all the facts have been released and there is a lot we don't know. Really important details. Are there gray areas, and what shade of gray?

It will be interesting to see how the prosecution proceeds once the details become known. This may be a very unusual case, we just don't know right now.

And for SLP's sake, I hope the there is a lot of gray.

I'm really confused here NW, I respect your opinions and I'd like to try and understand what you think would even begin to make this a gray area? Am I missing something that everyone else is aware of? I don't follow any social media regarding WS cases, so perhaps you are referring to something there? Thanks

 

[girlhasnoname]

And I read that they were separated for a while, a divorce was filed by him. I am going to go back and find the links to that...but it supports your post about the mom being put in a financial and emotional abuse situation.

I am in NO way excusing mom's behavior. I want to be clear on that.

That is true that RP filed for divorce in GA at one point I believe in 2015 IIRC.

 

[Yellow Rose]

What exactly is there not to be believed? He took her across state lines. She is 14, he is 31. He is in possession of a rape tape.

They have emails.

He is in possession of child .

She is 14. A child. He is 31. A full grown man.

Just not sure anyone that doesn't want to be convinced is going to be convinced regardless of what is said. The guy is a criminal. He encouraged (demanded actually) that a 14 year old girl acquiesce to rape by her father, then picked her up and crossed states as he high-tailed it back to his house, where he then hid her.

 

[girlhasnoname]

JC’s case needed no further charges as the killer killed two people. A couple of murders is enough on top of the kidnapping.

He is not going anywhere. BRD, on the other hand, needs additional charges to keep him where he should be if there are additonal charges.

BRD is facing 15 years minimum and 30 maximum on the exploitation charges alone, but I agree if there's more, bring them on!

 

[girlhasnoname]

In my comment, note that I said "The fact he broke the law is a given and the sentencing on the federal level is clear." I agree with you there. My comment was, what if SP's description and interpretation of events are not as negative as we perceive them. Example: she says that she wanted to be undiscovered for two weeks because he made her feel safe. ( and we don't know one way or another) and she didn't want to go back and that is why she hid when LE came down. How is that looked at by the powers that be? LE etc.

It doesn't matter if SP thought he was her knight in shining armor, legally she was unable to give consent to anything that BDR was charged with, ie exploitation of a minor. LE and the FBI have already looked down pretty hard IMO.

 

[girlhasnoname]

Just not sure anyone that doesn't want to be convinced is going to be convinced regardless of what is said. The guy is a criminal. He encouraged (demanded actually) that a 14 year old girl acquiesce to rape by her father, then picked her up and crossed states as he high-tailed it back to his house, where he then hid her.

I just don't get it YR, I really don't.

 

[Rosiebones]

It doesn't matter if SP thought he was heI r knight in shining armor, legally she was unable to give consent to anything that BDR was charged with, ie exploitation of a minor. LE and the FBI have already looked down pretty hard IMO.

I am only saying that it might matter big time to her. She has been dismissed all her life by people in control. She may feel this is more of the same
I understand what you bolded and I don't disagree at all. He should go away for all he is accused of and found guilty of.

 

[Yellow Rose]

I just don't get it YR, I really don't.

That's what the "ignore" button is for unfortunately.