Found Safe TN - SLP, 14, Madisonville, Monroe County, 13 Jan 2019 #5 *ARRESTS*

[Kadoober]

This whole story is just too bizarre and sad.

Why would he make the statement about not sending the video, if he DID.
Did he? Did they?
If memory serves, when RP was first arrested, I think it was said they found the video evidence on SPs laptop. Does anyone else remember this? I tried to find it last week, and failed.

Edit: Found it. It was her phone records, not her laptop:
"The FBI joined the search for the girl and later obtained a search warrant for email and messaging records on the teen's cell phone. The search warrant indicates they found explicit video and photos of Randall Pruitt having sexual intercourse with his adoptive daughter in her bedroom. Video of this explicit content was then emailed to someone, according to the search warrant."
Adoptive father of missing teen arrested, charged with rape

Is BR covering his butt, and telling his lawyer they took the evidence to MO FBI?
Is SP confirming his statements?

I SO BADLY want to believe everything from the defense is true.

 

[kkdj]

I read the defense memo. Unlike the majority, I do not see this man as a "misguided" hero, although his actions did lead to evidence being generated. Why?

1. What 31 year old converses online with a minor child? I have a major problem with that. They had multiple conversations. Clearly she had developed a trust or friendship with this 31 year old adult in order to get to the point she was willing to reveal abuse to him and beg him for help. What adult man is having such indepth conversations with a minor child on the internet?

2. Yes. He suggested a couple other options in the conversation the defense laid out. But he didn't press those extremely viable options. Like going to the hospital to get a rape kit. He didn't urge her to do so and reassure her that with her word and her rapists' DNA inside her, she'd be rescued by police. To me, he suggested them as other options but he didn't seem serious about those options. He didn't cycle back to them. When she begged for help he didn't continually tell her she'd be safe with those options. What he really pressed was video evidence. He really wanted that video.

3. There was audio that, when coupled with her own words, would've been quite enough for her to go to the police and be rescued. He continued to insist on VIDEO.

4. After receiving the video, he didn't simply call the authorities. "Hey, this child sent me this video of her being raped." He didn't immediately call 911. He told her he wouldn't be in trouble for picking her up if she made a video with evidence. And once she made it, he picked her up. However, that shows he believed it was viable evidence. And it shows he believed that the presence of the video would protect him from legal trouble. In other words, he didn't know asking her to make it would be illegal if he could show he was doing it to help get evidence. So he had no reason not to call 911 immediately and give them what he had gotten her to produce.

5. After receiving the video, he picked her up and took her out of state. He has ZERO reason not to drive her to a local LE department immediately, with the video. Instead, he took her across state lines.

6. He waited over 10 days to send the evidence to LE while harboring this minor in his mother's basement. Why?

7. What's this about him saying the video was too blurry?

I find his actions quite suspect. I don't think he deserves a medal for not sexually assaulting her for the days he had her. He could've been quite happy with just the video e got her to generate. He could've been working up to further exploitation.

If he was an 18 or 19 year old young man his actions might be more excusable to me because they're still at that age when there's this magical divide between adults and kids. Where adults and authorities aren't totally trusted.

But this is a 31 year old man conversing with a minor child online for a lengthy time period and insisting she generate child before he can help her.

The reaction here and the fact that he appears not to have assaulted her makes me believe he might indeed prevail in mitigating the charge. But I believe the charge was and is viable and necessary.

Just think of the sordid avenues we would be opening up to child sexual exploitation if a defense to encouraging a child to video and send an adult a recording of herself being assaulted, would be viable, under the auspicies of trying to "gather evidence".

I believe the charge is merited.

Finally, I think @MsFacetious mentioned a kidnapping charge would probably be dropped against BR. I didn't see any kidnapping charge. Only one charge - child exploitation. Am I wrong?

Thank you for posting this Gitana. This falls in line with my thinking.

 

[PommyMommy]

Good morning. I am reposting the defense attorney's response for the detention hearing, filed yesterday. They are on the docket for later this afternoon. When the new docs are available I'll post those too, both from the District Attorney and for the defense. Those docs might not be available until tomorrow morning.

Also, there may be a media thread for this case but I couldn't find it. So I'm just going to post here. I hope that's ok.

I added this doc to the media thread yesterday (Thanks again!) which is located here: TN - SLP, 14, Madisonville, Media, Maps and Timelines *NO DISCUSSION*

 

[kkdj]

Although on the fence, I lean towards BR grooming SP for a relationship. Maybe it had already begun...

 

[kkdj]

If BR's true intentions were just to save SP wouldn't he have shared her dilemma with his mother for advice? After all, he was (and did) bringing SP to his mother's house. She could have discovered her at any time.

 

[TxMother67]

I'd like to know how many times BR watched the video.

 

[Jim_M]

If BR's true intentions were just to save SP wouldn't he have shared her dilemma with his mother for advice? After all, he was (and did) bringing SP to his mother's house. She could have discovered her at any time.

But that would not have been a compelling story (jk).

If you read both of the documents, there are many 'snips' in the lines of conversation. These snips appear to drive the scenario in favor of the prosecution (First CC), or in favor of the defense (Second Doc). We are trying to read these with an open mind, but we're hampered with all these omissions. Kind of frustrating, eh?

We don't know if SLP begged BR to keep any other adults (ie. his mom) out of the entire mission. We don't know if there was an ulterior motive (ie. romantic/grooming?) before the revelation of SLP's abusive parent.

There is still much more to be revealed imo.

 

[Steelslady]

His problem solving skills seemed advanced to me. He damn well knew that if she had her rapist's DNA inside of her, she would be rescued. He talked about a rape kit. He knew she could go to a friend's for help with or without video or biological evidence. He chose a suspiciously circuitous route IMO.

I read it differently. If you read their chats- he constantly suggests to her to go to a friend's house, to go to LE, to go to the hospital to get a rape kit done. She was naturally scared to death. She kept threatening suicide over and over again- guilt can make you feel pretty crappy, if someone reached out to you and needed your help, and you denied them any- I think he didn't want a young girl's suicide on his conscience for the rest of his life.

She was scared to pieces. Her step father threatened to kill her, wanted to impregnate her, wouldn't allow her to go on birth control! I really think that SP actually want to go far far away from her home- she quite clearly did not feel safe enough to go to LE in that town, her former friends from Georgia- she mentioned she was scared to go to them because they might turn her in to the cops.

Sometimes, there really are Good Samaritans out there- we just don't hear enough about them anymore, due to all the evil that goes on in this world. Also, another damn good reason why we don't hear much about them anymore- because right away, they're judged, their grooming, they're sick- it can never be about them wanting to help a victim- never. There always has to be a sick reason why they go out of their way to help a victim. If you ask SP right now- if this situation unfolded exactly as written? He's probably a hero to her, and she will be forever grateful to him.

He drove her to the FBI in Missouri to drop off her letter to the FBI, the audio and video. I think he really did want this situation to be over with from his stand point, but wanted to make sure that she was safe and sound and out of harms way until RP was investigated and arrested. I don't think he's that stupid- he knew they would eventually track her down to his Mom's house- he was simply buying some time, I think, for RP to be arrested or for LE to investigate what was going on at home, hoping they would find more evidence there, too, to back up SP's story.

As far as why they talked- lots of gamers do- they love to discuss the games, the cheats, etc. All ages are on it, which is something I am not fond of myself, but that's how it is unfortunately.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

True - I guess I am too trusting of LE - it just wouldn't have occurred to me that the FBI would be in some conspiracy to return a child to a home where a rape(s) occurred and it is on video IMO. I honestly do not believe he would have been arrested at all if he had done this immediately JMO
ETA: and if this was given to LE immediately, they would not have needed to wait until RP was arrested since they arrested him so quickly when they had their evidence IMO. I guess it was a risk either way. JMO

He was worried the video was too blurry. IMO, they were not certain the evidence they had was enough to get RP arrested. But they tried anyway.

 

[kay74]

This girl was so depressed she was thinking of killing herself and her mother did nothing. Talk about horrible parents one's a slimeball and the other doesn't care. I am so glad this happened with this guy in Wisconsin or that girl would still be suffering and who knows what else.

 

[kkdj]

He was worried the video was too blurry. IMO, they were not certain the evidence they had was enough to get RP arrested. But they tried anyway.

At one point BR says he didn't turn the video over to LE because it was too blurry. And yet, he already knew it had been mailed to the FBI in MO. Doesn't make sense.

 

[Jim_M]

It's in the complaint. Page 2, #6.

"Rogers stated he did not ever send the video to law enforcement because he did not think it would stand up in court. He admitted to driving to Tennessee to pick up KV #1 and bringing her back to his residence in Wisconsin."

That seems like diversion on the prosecution's side. We now realize that they sent much more (6 page letter detailing lifetime of abuse, audio files, the video, and some pictures) to the FBI. This statement just doesn't fit in with the actual results. Truly confusing imo

 

[Steelslady]

This girl was so depressed she was thinking of killing herself and her mother did nothing. Talk about horrible parents one's a slimeball and the other doesn't care. I am so glad this happened with this guy in Wisconsin or that girl would still be suffering and who knows what else.

Or she would be in the hands of perhaps a monster- from where I am looking at things, I think he was a reluctant hero- he tried to advise her, but she didn't want to do anything he recommended because she was just plain scared of RP and needed to get away from him as fast and as soon as possible. We also need to remember that her sicko step dad is a felon and had enough guns around the house to make anyone nervous. It upsets me that he allegedly shot and skinned one of her dogs- a clear message, in my eyes, that she better behave, or else.........

I re-read that conversation several times. I really think he was reluctant, but when he realized that she was going to commit suicide because every other option was a no go in her mind, he felt he had to do something to help her.

I truly believe that she probably would have been sent home again, if this evidence wasn't present. We don't know how close a hospital is to their new home- it could be miles- how would a secluded 14 year old girl, new in town, home schooled, get to the hospital on her own? Who could she trust to bring her there without asking questions? She was all be herself, with just her online gaming and internet.

 

[Jim_M]

At one point BR says he didn't turn the video over to LE because it was too blurry. And yet, he already knew it had been mailed to the FBI in MO. Doesn't make sense.

You & Margarita! You're too fast, and on the same wave length. Creepy! I was a minute slower in posting. I blame that on diminished typing skills on my part. MOO

 

[kkdj]

I'd like to know how many times BR watched the video.

This is so weird to ask her for it. I think that right there spells it out to me. Then he goes and gets her.
Once he knew she had the video he could have instructed her how to email it to LE, instead of him. Would have saved him a long trip, harboring her and sneaking her from his mother.

 

[Gardenista]

I'd like to know how many times BR watched the video.

Hopefully that info can be extracted from the device where it was stored. Also hope they can tell if the video was uploaded to more than one device.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

At one point BR says he didn't turn the video over to LE because it was too blurry. And yet, he already knew it had been mailed to the FBI in MO. Doesn't make sense.

But what was the question, and from whom? Did local LE ask, why didn’t you bring the video to us that day? Because that would explain the answer, and why they mailed it to the FBI so they could see from a safe distance if it was enough.

 

[Jim_M]

This is so weird to ask her for it. I think that right there spells it out to me. Then he goes and gets her.
Once he knew she had the video he could have instructed her how to email it to LE, instead of him. Would have saved him a long trip, harboring her and sneaking her from his mother.

My original thoughts followed this line of thinking. That first CC really REALLY affected my view of BR.
But then you read the conversation, previously omitted by LE, where the suicidal messages were more intense.
Yeah, if someone was writing those words to me? How would I react?!

RP had killed her dog. RP had threatened to impregnate this 14 year old child. RP even threatened to kill SLP. I wonder how many other threats he was hitting her with, to control her life?

 

[human]

I read the defense memo. Unlike the majority, I do not see this man as a "misguided" hero, although his actions did lead to evidence being generated. Why?

1. What 31 year old converses online with a minor child? I have a major problem with that. They had multiple conversations. Clearly she had developed a trust or friendship with this 31 year old adult in order to get to the point she was willing to reveal abuse to him and beg him for help. What adult man is having such indepth conversations with a minor child on the internet?

2. Yes. He suggested a couple other options in the conversation the defense laid out. But he didn't press those extremely viable options. Like going to the hospital to get a rape kit. He didn't urge her to do so and reassure her that with her word and her rapists' DNA inside her, she'd be rescued by police. To me, he suggested them as other options but he didn't seem serious about those options. He didn't cycle back to them. When she begged for help he didn't continually tell her she'd be safe with those options. What he really pressed was video evidence. He really wanted that video.

3. There was audio that, when coupled with her own words, would've been quite enough for her to go to the police and be rescued. He continued to insist on VIDEO.

4. After receiving the video, he didn't simply call the authorities. "Hey, this child sent me this video of her being raped." He didn't immediately call 911. He told her he wouldn't be in trouble for picking her up if she made a video with evidence. And once she made it, he picked her up. However, that shows he believed it was viable evidence. And it shows he believed that the presence of the video would protect him from legal trouble. In other words, he didn't know asking her to make it would be illegal if he could show he was doing it to help get evidence. So he had no reason not to call 911 immediately and give them what he had gotten her to produce.

5. After receiving the video, he picked her up and took her out of state. He has ZERO reason not to drive her to a local LE department immediately, with the video. Instead, he took her across state lines.

6. He waited over 10 days to send the evidence to LE while harboring this minor in his mother's basement. Why?

7. What's this about him saying the video was too blurry?

I find his actions quite suspect. I don't think he deserves a medal for not sexually assaulting her for the days he had her. He could've been quite happy with just the video e got her to generate. He could've been working up to further exploitation.

If he was an 18 or 19 year old young man his actions might be more excusable to me because they're still at that age when there's this magical divide between adults and kids. Where adults and authorities aren't totally trusted.

But this is a 31 year old man conversing with a minor child online for a lengthy time period and insisting she generate child before he can help her.

The reaction here and the fact that he appears not to have assaulted her makes me believe he might indeed prevail in mitigating the charge. But I believe the charge was and is viable and necessary.

Just think of the sordid avenues we would be opening up to child sexual exploitation if a defense to encouraging a child to video and send an adult a recording of herself being assaulted, would be viable, under the auspicies of trying to "gather evidence".

I believe the charge is merited.

Finally, I think @MsFacetious mentioned a kidnapping charge would probably be dropped against BR. I didn't see any kidnapping charge. Only one charge - child exploitation. Am I wrong?

I so agree. And I reiterate. He was admitted to the Uof W in Madison.

Minnesota has reciprocity with WI for attending college. That means MN residents do not pay out of state tuition.

I am very familiar with the caliber of students who apply and get rejected as well as those who get accepted at UW Madison. This guy is very intelligent.

He knew he would be in trouble for having a teen in his house. He is no idiot savant

 

[human]

His problem solving skills seemed advanced to me. He damn well knew that if she had her rapist's DNA inside of her, she would be rescued. He talked about a rape kit. He knew she could go to a friend's for help with or without video or biological evidence. He chose a suspiciously circuitous route IMO.

He was accepted into U of W, Madison. An incredibly difficult school to get into