Found Safe TN - SLP, 14, Madisonville, Monroe County, 13 Jan 2019 #5 *ARRESTS*

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  • #101
He was accepted into U of W, Madison. An incredibly difficult school to get into
Per the defense filing, he attended Madison College, a community college, and transferred to UW. Often it is easier to get into a selective university by transferring in. [Case in point, my sister managed to transfer in to University of Michigan fainting-smiley.gif] I
wouldn't make the assumption that he's a genius.
 
  • #102
Again, that all seems like an incredibly and suspiciously circuitous route to help this child when one call would've done the same without the risk:"I have a child online here who told me she's being raped and molested for 12 years and is about to kill herself if I don't go get her. This is an emergency. I have it in writing. He's threatened her life so she's terrified to speak. Help her."

Boom.
Yup. That's it in a nutshell. He's a predator imo. How scary how he manipulated her!
 
  • #103
I don't understand how his attorneys can claim there was no "'quid pro quo" from page 5? The way I read the conversation was he couldn't help her if she did not obtain the video recording.
He would help her, he said, but on one condition: She would have to record her rape on video and send it to him.
Stranger Offered To Help Teen Raped By Her Dad, Only If She Recorded It
I agree. Yesterday I was feeling optimistic that this poor girl was not taken advantage of further after escaping her abuser in TN. Sadly, I just have more questions now that I've had time to really read over this stuff. :(
MOO
 
  • #104
Okay, so after this new information I'm feeling extremely unsettled. So the adoptive "father" killed her dog as a threat? Dang. And when Rogers came and got her, she wrote a long letter about what happened and sent it with an SD card to the FBI? That's an interesting development. It does help answer the question as to why she was afraid to tell other adults-she was concerned for everyone's safety. Poor girl.

KV feared that if she went to the police, her adoptive father might be arrested, but he would be released, and her life would be in danger.


Adoptive father who raped teen daughter made sure she feared him by shooting her dog, skinning it & dumping body in yard: Lawyer
 
  • #105
Again, that all seems like an incredibly and suspiciously circuitous route to help this child when one call would've done the same without the risk:"I have a child online here who told me she's being raped and molested for 12 years and is about to kill herself if I don't go get her. This is an emergency. I have it in writing. He's threatened her life so she's terrified to speak. Help her."

Boom.

Exactly.
 
  • #106
I wonder how she is doing, and what she thinks of what's going on. Does she feel protective toward BR, not realizing the inappropriateness of his actions? If he is fully prosecuted, I wonder what that will do to her. For her, he may just be Bryan, her gaming buddy who helped her get away from her nasty step-father.
 
  • #107
One (of many) things about this case that really struck a nerve with me is that BR encouraged SP to get raped again!
He wanted to see that video so badly!
jmo
 
  • #108
Maybe the whole MO link included a future plan of her coming out of hiding. Maybe they drove there and mailed the evidence to not only throw LE off track of where she was, but to set up a plan for him to return her to MO after RP's arrest so that she could present herself to the FBI in the same place that the mailing occurred. Maybe they had a pact that she would never disclose where she had been to protect BDR and keep him out of trouble, not realizing that LE had her social media accounts and could zero in on her location before they were ready. Maybe that was their plan to bring this to a conclusion.

Maybe?
 
  • #109
I wonder how she is doing, and what she thinks of what's going on. Does she feel protective toward BR, not realizing the inappropriateness of his actions? If he is fully prosecuted, I wonder what that will do to her. For her, he may just be Bryan, her gaming buddy who helped her get away from her nasty step-father.
I would bank money he was more than "her gaming buddy who helped her get away from her nasty step-father."
She might have thought that at first, but she will come around to realize the truth of his agenda, if she hasn't already. moo
 
  • #110
Eh, I'm still very skeptical. They sent a package to the FBI but when the FBI actually showed up at his door, he lied and didn't turn her over. Why? Because he knew that transporting her and harboring her was a crime, most likely. So why did he do it? Why didn't he take her to a hospital or a police station immediately? Why did he hide her in a basement for two weeks and then lie to the FBI?

It's possible his motives were good, but this was a very poorly-implemented and sketchy escape plan involving the transmission of child 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬, for heavens sake, and I think he needs to suffer the consequences.

Question, was his mother home the first time they came but he was the only person they spoke to and put in the report? And then they went back after he left for work after they were watching him and serve the warrant when they knew that his mother was the only person at the house? I wonder what time he left for work? And how soon after they submitted the warrant.
 
  • #111
I would bank money he was more than "her gaming buddy who helped her get away from her nasty step-father."
She might have thought that at first, but she will come around to realize the truth of his agenda, if she hasn't already. moo
Why was he sending stuff to the FBI and giving her a burner phone if his agenda was to groom her?
 
  • #112
I read the defense memo. Unlike the majority, I do not see this man as a "misguided" hero, although his actions did lead to evidence being generated. Why?

1. What 31 year old converses online with a minor child? I have a major problem with that. They had multiple conversations. Clearly she had developed a trust or friendship with this 31 year old adult in order to get to the point she was willing to reveal abuse to him and beg him for help. What adult man is having such indepth conversations with a minor child on the internet?

2. Yes. He suggested a couple other options in the conversation the defense laid out. But he didn't press those extremely viable options. Like going to the hospital to get a rape kit. He didn't urge her to do so and reassure her that with her word and her rapists' DNA inside her, she'd be rescued by police. To me, he suggested them as other options but he didn't seem serious about those options. He didn't cycle back to them. When she begged for help he didn't continually tell her she'd be safe with those options. What he really pressed was video evidence. He really wanted that video.

3. There was audio that, when coupled with her own words, would've been quite enough for her to go to the police and be rescued. He continued to insist on VIDEO.

4. After receiving the video, he didn't simply call the authorities. "Hey, this child sent me this video of her being raped." He didn't immediately call 911. He told her he wouldn't be in trouble for picking her up if she made a video with evidence. And once she made it, he picked her up. However, that shows he believed it was viable evidence. And it shows he believed that the presence of the video would protect him from legal trouble. In other words, he didn't know asking her to make it would be illegal if he could show he was doing it to help get evidence. So he had no reason not to call 911 immediately and give them what he had gotten her to produce.

5. After receiving the video, he picked her up and took her out of state. He has ZERO reason not to drive her to a local LE department immediately, with the video. Instead, he took her across state lines.

6. He waited over 10 days to send the evidence to LE while harboring this minor in his mother's basement. Why?

7. What's this about him saying the video was too blurry?

I find his actions quite suspect. I don't think he deserves a medal for not sexually assaulting her for the days he had her. He could've been quite happy with just the video e got her to generate. He could've been working up to further exploitation.

If he was an 18 or 19 year old young man his actions might be more excusable to me because they're still at that age when there's this magical divide between adults and kids. Where adults and authorities aren't totally trusted.

But this is a 31 year old man conversing with a minor child online for a lengthy time period and insisting she generate child 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 before he can help her.

The reaction here and the fact that he appears not to have assaulted her makes me believe he might indeed prevail in mitigating the charge. But I believe the charge was and is viable and necessary.

Just think of the sordid avenues we would be opening up to child sexual exploitation if a defense to encouraging a child to video and send an adult a recording of herself being assaulted, would be viable, under the auspicies of trying to "gather evidence".

I believe the charge is merited.

Finally, I think @MsFacetious mentioned a kidnapping charge would probably be dropped against BR. I didn't see any kidnapping charge. Only one charge - child exploitation. Am I wrong?

Gitana, thank you for this amazing post. I agree a hundred percent with everything you said and thank you for laying this out so well.
 
  • #113
One (of many) things about this case that really struck a nerve with me is that BR encouraged SP to get raped again!
He wanted to see that video so badly!
jmo
Yet I keep realizing that he was not encouraging, or forcing, anything happening in that bedroom. That rapist was going to walk through that door. SLP had nowhere to turn. Nowhere to run.

Could BR have been taking advantage of this situation? Could he have been planning worse things for this distraught victim? If so, why did they put together all the evidence?

We have no idea what narrative has been provided by SLP. Will we be privy to her viewpoint?
 
  • #114
Question, was his mother home the first time they came but he was the only person they spoke to and put in the report? And then they went back after he left for work after they were watching him and serve the warrant when they knew that his mother was the only person at the house? I wonder what time he left for work? And how soon after they submitted the warrant.
Stranger Offered To Help Teen Raped By Her Dad, Only If She Recorded It
snipped - BBM - not sure if she was home or not, we only know she was the one who answered the door - now that I think about it, she was likely hiding under his direction if he was not home (again, with the fear that his mother may not believe her either if she was not aware he was hiding a child in their home) JMO

Once investigators pinpointed Rogers, they arrived at his home on Jan. 31. He admitted he talked to the girl via Roblox, telling the agents that she confided in him about the sexual assault and had sent him a video, but claimed that he had never traveled to Tennessee and that the girl was not with him, according to the affidavit.

Agents came back four hours later. This time, his mom answered the door.

They told her they needed to search the house - and that's when they found the 14-year-old hiding in a basement closet.

Once arrested, Rogers admitted he asked her to email the video of the "full blown rape" and that once he had it, he drove to Tennessee to pick her up and bring her back, the affidavit says. Rogers admitted he tried to avoid any surveillance on toll roads and smashed her phone so it could not be traced.

The officers found the seven-minute video on his computer.
 
  • #115
Yet I keep realizing that he was not encouraging, or forcing, anything happening in that bedroom. That rapist was going to walk through that door. SLP had nowhere to turn. Nowhere to run.

Could BR have been taking advantage of this situation? Could he have been planning worse things for this distraught victim? If so, why did they put together all the evidence?

We have no idea what narrative has been provided by SLP. Will we be privy to her viewpoint?
As you said, BR's actions got her out of the situation and may have prevented her suicide. Their actions (FBI letter, burner phone) following her escape also guaranteed that this would all come to an end.
 
  • #116
Why was he sending stuff to the FBI and giving her a burner phone if his agenda was to groom her?
IMO to gain her confidence so she would rely on him and him alone. He took 2 weeks to mail "something" to the FBI - we have yet to know what was in this package as we have not heard from them yet. Perhaps today we will have some answers?
 
  • #117
Maybe the whole MO link included a future plan of her coming out of hiding. Maybe they drove there and mailed the evidence to not only throw LE off track of where she was, but to set up a plan for him to return her to MO after RP's arrest so that she could present herself to the FBI in the same place that the mailing occurred. Maybe they had a pact that she would never disclose where she had been to protect BDR and keep him out of trouble, not realizing that LE had her social media accounts and could zero in on her location before they were ready. Maybe that was their plan to bring this to a conclusion.

Maybe?

Great views. Fits into her concerns about being returned home, and his concerns about getting into trouble for helping her out. They did appear to be making better plans once they got back to his home. Sigh.
 
  • #118
Stranger Offered To Help Teen Raped By Her Dad, Only If She Recorded It
snipped - BBM - not sure if she was home or not, we only know she was the one who answered the door - now that I think about it, she was likely hiding under his direction if he was not home (again, with the fear that his mother may not believe her either if she was not aware he was hiding a child in their home) JMO

Once investigators pinpointed Rogers, they arrived at his home on Jan. 31. He admitted he talked to the girl via Roblox, telling the agents that she confided in him about the sexual assault and had sent him a video, but claimed that he had never traveled to Tennessee and that the girl was not with him, according to the affidavit.

Agents came back four hours later. This time, his mom answered the door.

They told her they needed to search the house - and that's when they found the 14-year-old hiding in a basement closet.

Once arrested, Rogers admitted he asked her to email the video of the "full blown rape" and that once he had it, he drove to Tennessee to pick her up and bring her back, the affidavit says. Rogers admitted he tried to avoid any surveillance on toll roads and smashed her phone so it could not be traced.

The officers found the seven-minute video on his computer.


Reading this, and still thinking he is a hero is mind-boggling, imo.
 
  • #119
Need to find the US District court docket for this district in WI - I will look
Madison man charged with exploitation of Tennessee girl had reached out to FBI, lawyers say
snipped - BBM
Instead, it states that investigators found the recording on Rogers’ computer, which was seized from his home after his arrest.

One more thing about this recording - if they did find it on his computer, why did he not delete it after copying it and sending it to the FBI? Think about that for a bit....


Couldn't he just as readily kept it in case he needed to send it further up the ladder? I don't think I could delete a video if I thought I might at some time need it again. I still have the same phone I had when my dear dad died. Because I want to hear his voicemail messages and his piano (he was a concert pianist and loved to compose) playing.
 
  • #120
Couldn't he just as readily kept it in case he needed to send it further up the ladder? I don't think I could delete a video if I thought I might at some time need it again. I still have the same phone I had when my dear dad died. Because I want to hear his voicemail messages and his piano (he was a concert pianist and loved to compose) playing.
She emailed it to him - he could always retrieve her email - the way I read this, he downloaded it to his computer. And that I have a problem with IMO.

ETA: also, when I save a file from my email to USB/SD - i can click the attachment and save as without downloading it to the computer - I just choose the SD/USB or whatever device. If in fact it was on his hard drive, I have a problem with it. Now I will have to go see where I read that. all JMO. note, pg 10 of the document filed on behalf of BR - "sent the recording to BR" - I take this to mean email - she could also have used Messenger since you can send files I think via this system? The electronics evidence will tell us what happened IMO
 
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