Found Safe TN - SLP, 14, Madisonville, Monroe County, 13 Jan 2019 #5 *ARRESTS*

[oviedo]

That's what it sounds like to me.
MOO

Agree seems like an acknowledgement plus they sealed the 6 page letter at the hearing - why seal a letter that doesn’t exist ? iMO they got a package

 

[ilovechili]

None of what BDR has done with SP, right from the start has made any sense at all to me. If the point of the rape video was something for himself, it doesn't make sense that 5-7 minutes of blurry, difficult to see video is it. All he needed to do is stay home in the basement and surf the internet. Much better quality stuff on there at no cost monetarily, this has cost him his freedom. Where is the sense in that?

It may be a very unpopular opinion but I am still stuck here somewhat. Some girl he just met on the internet on a game in December (allegedly) and he is intent on getting a video for his own thrill of her stepdaddy with her (trying to use nice words). If this is who he is, then he has a history of more graphic videos and porn, etc. of similar things.

My response to that is:

1. The defense presented their best evidence to get him bail. There was zero reference to him having prior conversations in which he suggested or they discussed other possibilities in that or any other manner.

2. Even if they had, his responses to her are sinister in their cold manipulativeness. This kid is basically saying that what he wants her to do will destroy her mentally and he is nonchalant and dismissive about that. In fact he actually also gets angry at some point.

3. It's insane. His plan makes no sense at all no matter what conversation they had before. He's asking her to send him - not LE - child porn before he can or will help her. He's 31 and is going to go get a 14 year old and drive her hundreds of miles out of state to his basement.

This is not an out of context conversation situation or the defense would've added more. What I see here is illogical and evil.

Nothing they discussed prior to this could change my mind.

I know who he is. I'm certain.

I cannot argue it. You have laid out the facts and things that support it very well. The prosecution though as well lay out nothing to lead up to their facts in their charges or how they met or things that led up to it. I am no attorney. I just want those answers I guess.

You impress the heck out of me. I guess I really want to believe a halfway scenario or at least that it is not someone that is the worst of the worst.

And in every case, I want the answers to questions we never seem to get...

 

[Jim_M]

I keep thinking about SP, amongst Adults, Professionals, being counseled.
It would be great if she was pampered: going to the hairdresser, having her hair cut and styled, a manicure and pedicure, and some shopping.
Hope this could be arranged, and she goes along with another young girl, both being escorted.
She would love that.
MOO.

Awwwww, those are really sweet thoughts. Maybe SLP and her siblings could be treated in this very fashion? I wonder if they could/would do something like that as part of therapy? IMO it would brighten their days

 

[Seattle1]

I think it was supposed to read also sent messages to each other.

Reportedly BR and the victim used an encrypted app and Facebook as their means to communicate.

I think the purpose of the encrypted app is so communication can't be detected. We have no idea how many people BR communicated with using this app-- in addition to SP.

What a fright!

 

[MsMarple]

I believe they will also find that he's been watching child porn of other children for years plus that he's been grooming other children. They might even find some videos of him with other children. I have a feeling he has experience with hiding the recording device to film sex acts. moo

Yeah, I think a lot of us are also wondering if this was his first rodeo. It's kind of hard to judge BR since he took precautions to evade being caught on camera, etc. but at the same time he bungled other actions. So who knows?

As I said earlier, in my mind I don't care if evidence is found of prior predation since his current actions damn him. But that doesn't mean I'm not curious about his history.

One thought I have is even if this was the first time he acted on his urges I believe he has had a longtime interest in manipulating someone vulnerable. IOW, I think the power of control is important to him. Who better than a young, naive girl with a horrible story to tell? And his affirmation of being "in charge" was to do to her exactly what he supposedly was rescuing her from. No regard for her feelings, no regard for consequences.

And that in turn leads me to believe he was actively seeking a victim. Unfortunately SLP fell right into his lap. If not her then IMO he would have found someone else. The Internet is full of traumatized kids looking for someone, anyone, who will listen to them and acknowledge their needs and fears.

In sleuthing him I looked for evidence his lawyer presented about him being a well-known "storm chaser" and his appearances on TV. I found very little, a few references in comments on YouTube and one college academic paper he wrote along with several other students. No CV, no graduate work, no jobs in meteorology. He worked for FEdEx. Was that disappointing to him?

My long-winded response is that IMO he has attempted the same ploy of being a sympathetic ear with others but not to this extent, or maybe with disappointing results. I don't believe he's a pedophile in the strict sense because there is a different dynamic between being sexually attracted to prepubescent children and deriving sexual pleasure from manipulating a teen.

IMO maybe sex was not even the end goal, maybe the need for control was. If I'm correct (and only time will tell) then I suspect he may have viewed bondage porn or even violent videos victimizing women.

I'm more interested in learning if he had long chats with other young girls in the past and hopefully the FBI experts will uncover any evidence of that.

All this is JMOO and I apologize for my rather ununified thought process.

 

[cybervampira]

Reportedly BR and the victim used an encrypted app and Facebook as their means to communicate.

I think the purpose of the encrypted app is so communication can't be detected. We have no idea how many people BR communicated with using this app-- in addition to SP.

What a fright!

As I mentioned before, I wouldn’t take the term ”encrypted app“ as some child molestor or terrorist tool. WhatsApp would be considered an encrypted app (although I don’t think it is 100% secure). Or any other standard app with end-to-end encryption used by millions of people every day.

But you are right, the provider cannot give insight into the communication.

 

[ilovechili]

IMO RP is so far convicted because of the evidence no one is bothering with him - the only question may be the length of his sentence and who knew what was going on and when did they know it (BR saying what she told him regarding the long term family abuse by RP) while BR is an enigma we really don’t know yet the extent of his communications with the child victim (just the complaint and memorandum of law filed by defense) and what went on for 17 days at his mothers home while he lived in the basement and mom was home by all accounts - the trunk, closet, how many beds in basement etc? So many details yet to be released and may never be IMO

I get and understand your points. Yet they are talking more charges against WI, what about daddy dearest? Allegedly almost since the day her mom and adopto dad got together?! The one we have yet to see there was a true adoption in a court in any state of these two girls? Media is what it is and hearings were had so I get it to a point why WI guy is the focus but boy is it quiet with regard to daddy dearest and mom. To me, it makes me wonder, why did she need to go to this extent, run and go to an FBI office out of state? Or even involve the FBI? I may find I am wrong but it makes one wonder. She did not trust anyone in either state she lived in... Or any of her own family, immediate or otherwise. I hope I am wrong and both men did wrong but ADOPTO dad is the worst from what we know in a matter of degrees but focus is on WI guy... And is mommy free and clear?? I do not like to judge but boy has the focus changed...

 

[SkipperKey3]

Agree seems like an acknowledgement plus they sealed the 6 page letter at the hearing - why deal a letter that doesn’t exist ? iMO they got a package

I sure hope that letter will also be used in the case against RP. "Sealing" it in WI doesn't prevent that, does it?

 

[Seattle1]

As I mentioned before, I wouldn’t take the term ”encrypted app“ as some child molestor or terrorist tool. WhatsApp would be considered an encrypted app (although I don’t think it is 100% secure). Or any other standard app with end-to-end encryption used by millions of people every day.

But you are right, the provider cannot give insight into the communication.

Personally, I'm glad the app used in the case has not been specifically identified by its market name!

I believe there are too many applications available today being used for illicit purposes. MOO

 

[oviedo]

I get and understand your points. Yet they are talking more charges against WI, what about daddy dearest? Allegedly almost since the day her mom and adopto dad got together?! The one we have yet to see there was a true adoption in a court in any state of these two girls? Media is what it is and hearings were had so I get it to a point why WI guy is the focus but boy is it quiet with regard to daddy dearest and mom. To me, it makes me wonder, why did she need to go to this extent, run and go to an FBI office out of state? Or even involve the FBI? I may find I am wrong but it makes one wonder. She did not trust anyone in either state she lived in... Or any of her own family, immediate or otherwise. I hope I am wrong and both men did wrong but ADOPTO dad is the worst from what we know in a matter of degrees but focus is on WI guy... And is mommy free and clear?? I do not like to judge but boy has the focus changed...

Yes very very early before things shut down there was a lot out on the internet IMO seemed like the whole clan protected this family (RP) and the town the child was moved to (isolation) pretty much shut down - not surprising since they were there a short time but the silence from their prior town speaks volumes to me - I think there is more to come regarding the family life and it won’t be good IMO - BR is the devil she ran to but he certainly has become the focus - why is that? What more is to come regarding her family life or should I say what more to hide? Perhaps we are hearing nothing for a reason?? I don’t know but the whole thing is odd IMO

 

[oviedo]

Reportedly BR and the victim used an encrypted app and Facebook as their means to communicate.

I think the purpose of the encrypted app is so communication can't be detected. We have no idea how many people BR communicated with using this app-- in addition to SP.

What a fright!

Yes and who invited who to install and use the encrypted app? My guess is the one who had reason to use it before -BR IMO

 

[oviedo]

I also haven't seen any local news from the Georgia town ( I can't remember the name of the town but I think it's metropolitan area) that they lived in prior to moving. I think some of the media is going to be hands-off on this as far as investigative reporting such as where they used to live in Georgia.

The silence is deafening IMO

 

[PayrollNerd]

The silence is deafening IMO

Lawrenceville, GA about 15 miles east of Atlanta. I agree. It’s too quiet. Who knew what & when? (Just spent a week there with friends last fall so the city name stuck with me.)

 

[Steelslady]

I keep thinking about SP, amongst Adults, Professionals, being counseled.
It would be great if she was pampered: going to the hairdresser, having her hair cut and styled, a manicure and pedicure, and some shopping.
Hope this could be arranged, and she goes along with another young girl, both being escorted.
She would love that.
MOO.

What a sweet and kind comment. Love this. It would be so nice if someone spoiled and pampered that darling girl. My heart just aches for her for all that she has gone through.

 

[Steelslady]

I am so broken hearted that BR wasn't the hero I wanted him to be for SLP.

My head tells me one thing, while my heart hangs on to this tiny thread of hope that he might be honorable. Evidence in that rape kit has upset me so much. I just didn't want to believe it, know what I mean? That this poor girl went from one abuse, then to another to escape the first abuse. I just want to hug SLP and give her a loving home, where she would never have to worry about such disgusting and sick acts forced upon her ever again. If I lived near her, I would gladly sign up to foster her and eventually adopt her. SLP, just know that there are loving homes willing to open up for you, if it could be done legally.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

this may sound rather inane, but if a child cannot consent to sex, how can she consent to this? she is a minor. no expert, but i would guess it has to do with prosecution, it is allowed to put the perp away...? attorneys can weigh in, i have no idea. but just logically the 14 year old victim could not consent...

My feeling as well, chili.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

I cannot disagree with one word that you say. Your posts are well thought out and very well backed up.

I guess I get back to degrees... There is evil that cannot be rehabilitated and then there are those that are harder to understand and that is where I am at with WI guy.

While I understand the focus on WI guy, it seems to have taken away in some ways from daddy dearest and mom?? I mean what was she running from? I entirely get it and that both men and possibly mom should be charged but it also seems like WI guy is being more focused on than RP who, without getting into specifics, was seen on video. And mom. And what is going on with mom? I am still catching up but RP almost seems forgotten about... I do not mean that at anyone here, I mean it in the sense of media, hearings, etc. WI guy definitely needs to be charged and have the case heard, without a doubt. I am still catching up but everything I am reading seems to have almost forgot about adopto-dad, the reason WI guy may have looked good in comparison. That is not on her, I am saying that it is not hard to understand.

Why is her dad as far as I know charged with one count of rape and due to probably only video evidence? Clearly more than that occurred through the years? Yet WI guy seems to be the focus? And what about mom?

Not arguing, I think you know that, but it almost seems like the guy who both saved her and may also have been grooming her is the focus now even in the courts...

I agree. I’ve made attempts to bring the focus back to the main decade-long horror show to no avail. Glad you are catching up with the thread and sharing your thoughts!

 

[Deleted member 158085]

IMO RP is so far convicted because of the evidence no one is bothering with him - the only question may be the length of his sentence and who knew what was going on and when did they know it (BR saying what she told him regarding the long term family abuse by RP) while BR is an enigma we really don’t know yet the extent of his communications with the child victim (just the complaint and memorandum of law filed by defense) and what went on for 17 days at his mothers home while he lived in the basement and mom was home by all accounts - the trunk, closet, how many beds in basement etc? So many details yet to be released and may never be IMO

17 days vs over a decade, though. So much more to know about the latter!

 

[oviedo]

17 days vs over a decade, though. So much more to know about the latter!

I know the sentiment- the horror of long term family abuse is perhaps still a bit taboo? I know I personally was horrified at that complaint - I know it exists of course but to read the agents description of the video of her assault was beyond awful- maybe the WS community can’t bear to discuss his assaults and that’s why we are trying to dissect BR, his crimes and motives? And seem to move away from the original criminal RP? JMO

 

[Deleted member 158085]

I know the sentiment- the horror of long term family abuse is perhaps still a bit taboo? I know I personally was horrified at that complaint - I know it exists of course but to read the agents description of the video of her assault was beyond awful- maybe the WS community can’t bear to discuss his assaults and that’s why we are trying to dissect BR, his crimes and motives? And seem to move away from the original criminal RP? JMO

I really doubt that’s the reason we haven’t discussed it.