AMBER ALERT TN - Summer Moon-Utah Wells, 5, Rogersville, 15 Jun 2021 #24

[Finlay]

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DW is no criminal mastermind that has fooled the TBI and FBI.
The public does not have the info that LE has, and to be honest DW or CB would be arrested already if LE had any reason to arrest them.

Why tho?
I'm guessing that you are stating your opinion here. I would ask to see a link to some statement or article that proves that DW is indeed NOT a mastermind, but I'll concede that it would be hard for you to show a lack of convictions for crimes that he may have committed (well, other than the SAs he has most recently admitted) for which he has not been convicted.

But more importantly, WHY arrest anyone that has NOT been eliminated as possibly being a suspect and put them in a secure environment where they would no longer be able to possibly give up more information that LE may find useful?

<edited to correct grammer & add a little detail I'd originally missed>

 

[Allabouttrial]

Time stamp on transcript begins at 44:35

He's talking about his colleague at the time you've quoted. I think this is the part you were talking about. Time kindly referenced by @MsMarple around 87.40.

DW: My step sister is Jeanie. And when we did have a relationship when we were younger, and she's just as guilty as I am. She's trying to pull the wool over anybody's eyes like she's miss innocent and all this and that, well she's not.
CM: Walk me through that. Help me understand.
DW: I would rather not. So we kind of had a relationship when we were younger. Yeah, I was, I was a bit older. I had a dirt bike. You know, I don't know how old I was exactly.....She started dated her cousin which was about 12 years old at that time.

Don Wells' phone conversation with The Interview Room

 

[Sillybilly]

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[AmyE]

Why tho?
I'm guessing that you are stating your opinion here. I would ask to see a link to some statement or article that proves that Daw is indeed NOT a mastermind, but I'll conceded that it would be hard for you to show a lack of convictions for crimes that he has committed (well, other than the SAs he has most recently admitted).

But more importantly, WHY arrest anyone that has NOT been eliminated as possibly being a suspect and put them in a secure environment where they would no longer be able to possibly give up more information that LE may find useful?

Ok
What about Summer? If deceased then decomposition is deteriorating evidence every day, along with other elements.
We have seen in other cases how difficult prosecution is without a cause of death. Remember Caylee Anthony? Decomposition deteriorated evidence and no cause of death. LE knows this, they know time is of the essence and more and more evidence is deteriorating everyday.
There is much more that LE sitting around waiting for a YouTube video to solve their case. FBI CARD Team deserves more respect than that.
Investigating Child Abductions — FBI

 

[iQuill]

Still no Summer ... what on earth happened to this precious little girl ... so much time, so much noise, still no Summer... where are you sweet girl? Moo

 

[MyBelle]

I don't know that the parents are involved. I'm not going to pass judgment on the parents until I know more. I've never walked in their shoes and hope I never will.

 

[justaparent]

What was his response when LE was first searching at his home?

I knew at that very second she was gone…I knew they were looking up the hill and I drove down to the creek, saw my boys…
I was trying to tell them she was not lost in the woods but they wouldn’t listen to me...

So he was angry they wouldn't listen to him about not needing to search that area for her. He even complained about all the first responders and SAR Teams 'clogging up' his road, when they were setting up their search headquarters.

What parents of a missing child gets mad because there are too many searchers and squad vehicles setting up a command post?

This is the reaction I would expect from someone who knows who took his daughter and why she was taken if it was truly an abduction.

Jmo

 

[Sundog]

I thought that the approved youtube interview with DW where he showed the inside of the shed was useful, it dispelled the mystery of what was in the shed that was a constant theme on one of the other channels. Seems to have been a nothingburger.

 

[kittythehare]

This is the reaction I would expect from someone who knows who took his daughter and why she was taken if it was truly an abduction.

Jmo

Maybe he has a fair idea which he has shared with LE?
Knowing does not necessarily mean she is easily retrievable.

 

[MyBelle]

There is no playbook for what parents are supposed to say and how they are supposed to act when their child goes missing. I think of Maddy McCann's parents and what they were put through.

 

[Finlay]

One thing that DW does seem to be consistent is his feeling that Summer's disappearance is an act of revenge/retaliation directed at him. He mentions that the coworker he had just fired had been to their house several times and Candus did not like the way he "looked" at Summer.

I think DW has also made some comments in one of his discussions with CM where he also opined as to how hard it was to be around a meth-head because those sorts of people were very paranoid and made absolutely NO sense in things they said. (This would have been around the time he was discussing the worker he had to fire which he thought may have been on that Krocodile drug.) ...so there may possibly be an introduction needed there between the pot & kettle.

 

[hdo82]

There is no playbook for what parents are supposed to say and how they are supposed to act when their child goes missing. I think of Maddy McCann's parents and what they were put through.

Also I dont know anything about that case at all. So I cant relate.

 

[Sundog]

There is no playbook for what parents are supposed to say and how they are supposed to act when their child goes missing. I think of Maddy McCann's parents and what they were put through.

I agree, I think that CW and DW are doing the best they can under the circumstances. It's unfortunate that they entered the vicious world of social media. Lots of vigilante justice, not based on any evidence. So much for innocent until proven guilty. Not for the SM mob.

 

[Finlay]

In

Ok
What about Summer? If deceased then decomposition is deteriorating evidence every day, along with other elements.
We have seen in other cases how difficult prosecution is without a cause of death. Remember Caylee Anthony? Decomposition deteriorated evidence and no cause of death. LE knows this, they know time is of the essence and more and more evidence is deteriorating everyday.
There is much more that LE sitting around waiting for a YouTube video to solve their case. FBI CARD Team deserves more respect than that.
Investigating Child Abductions — FBI

That is exactly why I posed the question. Would it seem more likely that LE would be able to find Summer if a person they may want to hear more info from was scared and confined in jail? Or could it make more sense to allow them to move about freely (& possibly even revisit locations of interest) and also allow them to have access to random strangers (to them) which they may feel a desire to spill their guts to? I mean *seriously* why would LE want to lock that person up before they had been "milked" of all the info they might be willing to share?

 

[squareandrabbet]

There is no playbook for what parents are supposed to say and how they are supposed to act when their child goes missing. I think of Maddy McCann's parents and what they were put through.

But there is a playbook about how guilty people act/display their guilt.

 

[rosesfromangels]

I don't know that the parents are involved. I'm not going to pass judgment on the parents until I know more. I've never walked in their shoes and hope I never will.

I’m not suggesting they harmed Summer; I’ve posted my theory many times. That aside, they are up to their ears in all sorts of issues, which have been well discussed. For those alone, I suspect there will be significant repercussions.

amateur opinion and speculation

 

[Finlay]

I thought that the approved youtube interview with DW where he showed the inside of the shed was useful, it dispelled the mystery of what was in the shed that was a constant theme on one of the other channels. Seems to have been a nothingburger.

Wait. Wasnt part of the mystery centered around who or what may have been in the shed at the time CM was present? ...I haven't been able to watch this latest video but, was it also filmed at the same time CM was on the property & discussing the shed with CB?

 

[Sillybilly]

He even complained about all the first responders and SAR Teams 'clogging up' his road, when they were setting up their search headquarters.

What parents of a missing child gets mad because there are too many searchers and squad vehicles setting up a command post?

<rsbm>

I didn't interpret that he was complaining about "clogging up" his road. He made reference to it being "bottlenecked" and IMO it was simply stated as fact:

At timestamp 10:12 in the video

DW says: "Well, when the police started coming in and everything and I'm like, "Well, I'm gonna go check my car, and I'm gonna go look here and there," you know. As I drove, you know, like I say, I was in shock. I didn't know which way to go. And so I tried to drive down, and I got down there on the road. And these people bringing their trailers in, and their four wheelers, and all of Ben Hill (Rd) and Beech Creek was just bottlenecked. Traffic jam, couldn't get nowhere.

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[everybodhi]

But there is a playbook about how guilty people act/display their guilt.

Really? Why do we bother with evidence and trials if we can determine guilt so easily, just by how someone acts?

 

[everybodhi]

Also I dont know anything about that case at all. So I cant relate.

Isabel Celis?
https://www.google.co.id/url?sa=t&s...ChAWegQIFBAB&usg=AOvVaw1E34bwed_Gq5FURcnlBeUm

Edited to add quotes:
“If you know how we’re supposed to be acting, please let me know,” an exasperated Becky Celis told Tucson reporters.

From 2012 up until Saturday, most of us were pretty sure we knew what happened to little Isabel Celis.

The dad did it.

Or the dad knew who did it.

Or the parents knew she was abducted because they owed a debt to Mexican drug traffickers. Something sensational like that.

These were the sorts of suspicions we shared in idle conversations around Tucson, in social-media posts, even on national TV. That dad sure looked and acted suspicious. And why did the mom stick by him? Something was wrong with them.

Then came Saturday, and the announcement that a grand jury had indicted Christopher M. Clements, a serial criminal with no known connections to the family, for murder in the deaths of 6-year-old Isabel and of 13-year-old Maribel Gonzalez.