AMBER ALERT TN - Summer Moon-Utah Wells, 5, Rogersville, 15 Jun 2021 #24

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The language one uses serves as a reflection of the individuals perceived reality. So if you think of a pattern or cycle, the reality and the language will change depending on where the individual is in the cycle at the time of the conversation. If I was looking for a regression as it relates to a behavior I would need more than one conversation and/or data point to offer a professional opinion.

Agree. We could find a correlation between spoken words (always taking into consideration under what circumstances they were made). And see how body language connects.

Maybe there are other points to consider, Tiff?

This is your area of expertise. I, for one am keen to learn more.
 
  • #622
Statement analysis isn't proof in terms of the law. The strongest evidence that someone hasn't kicked their predilection is possession of CSAM (child sex abuse material).

I also wanted to add that not all SA is reported. Particularly in certain circles where people may have other potential criminal liability, abuse is rarely reported. So I personally wouldn't draw conclusions if someone wasn't reported recently - it doesn't mean it did or didn't happen necessarily.

JMO and general thoughts
This brings to mind Josh Duggar who is currently awaiting trial for allegedly possessing CSAM.

Josh molested 5 minors when he was about 14. Four were his very young sisters. His parents sent him off to work construction instead of getting him therapy.

IMO without some sort of intervention the perpetrator is at risk of reoffending or escalating. In Josh’s case he got sneakier over the years and managed to fly under the legal radar until caught by the feds.
 
  • #623
My understanding is that he returned a call to CM. I imagine CM contacted him first. Like he most likely made first contact with CW.

I think the new channel also reached out to him. Apparently the Mrs.Cher had originally subscribed to his guilt but changed her mind.. that seems to be the chatter.
He is irresponsible by giving those interviews but I could easily see how he could have been persuaded. He most definitely is not media savvy. I think we can all agree on that.
I don't believe he has a lawyer. If he had he'd probably not listen to him. He's like a drowning man, I have no idea if he is taking the time to grieve or just staying ahead of his fear and pain by acting recklessly. By giving interviews. I also have a feeling he expects her to be alive, somewhere..
If he's wrong about that...
I am glad LE is letting him ramble all over SM...
just like LS did when Gannon was missing.
Her "Cousin It" interview and after were only harming herself.

Truthspeak

Also, according to CW, they have hired an attorney so not sure what this attorney is advising them to do, but obviously, it is not to keep quiet, IMO

From article --
"Bly said she did not want to say why the other children had been removed from the home.

According to Bly, they have hired an attorney.

Parents of Summer Wells attend juvenile court, confirm other children are in custody of child services | WREG.com
 
  • #624
So what’s DW’s new theory, or did nobody else watch the Cher’s either?
 
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I am glad LE is letting him ramble all over SM...
just like LS did when Gannon was missing.
Her "Cousin It" interview and after were only harming herself.

Truthspeak

Also, according to CW, they have hired an attorney so not sure what this attorney is advising them to do, but obviously, it is not to keep quiet, IMO

From article --
"Bly said she did not want to say why the other children had been removed from the home.

According to Bly, they have hired an attorney.

Parents of Summer Wells attend juvenile court, confirm other children are in custody of child services | WREG.com

I believe parents in CPS cases are assigned one - similar to a public defender.

If they did actually hire an attorney for a reason other than the CPS case, my guess is that the attorney would have ceased representation by now.
 
  • #627
I am glad LE is letting him ramble all over SM...
just like LS did when Gannon was missing.
Her "Cousin It" interview and after were only harming herself.

Truthspeak

Also, according to CW, they have hired an attorney so not sure what this attorney is advising them to do, but obviously, it is not to keep quiet, IMO

From article --
"Bly said she did not want to say why the other children had been removed from the home.

According to Bly, they have hired an attorney.

Parents of Summer Wells attend juvenile court, confirm other children are in custody of child services | WREG.com
Attorney is for the CPS case is my understanding.
Not a criminal lawyer or a lawyer who will litigate for alleged slander or misrepresentation.
 
  • #628
Agree. We could find a correlation between spoken words (always taking into consideration under what circumstances they were made). And see how body language connects.

Maybe there are other points to consider, Tiff?

This is your area of expertise. I, for one am keen to learn more.
Me too. Of course I would love to ask @Tiff23fr to use the conversation between CM & DW/CW and give an opinion, but not sure if that's appropriate.
 
  • #629
So what’s DW’s new theory, or did nobody else watch the Cher’s either?
Hole-up there partner. ;) You said "did nobody *else* watch" it. What's your take? I haven't watched it (yet?). I may tomorrow. But I am curious how that all played out. (& I apologize if you already gave up some of this info and I missed it. I'll go back and check for that.)
 
  • #630
Could CH have transported Summer out of state to cover up an accident? Curious if anyone has a LE background or maybe relating to how LS was able to do it with Gannon with LE around.
 
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Steve's summary should be required listening for anyone who deeply cares about Summer's disappearance. That's really all she wrote. Don said in so many ways what happened, under whose care she was at the time and how he cleaned it up.
And, as Steve said, respect would have flowed to them for being truthful. And still would.

Imo it was hitting her head at the pond, which could have been forgiven. Imo

Edited to separate my opinion from Steve's summary.
 
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So what’s DW’s new theory, or did nobody else watch the Cher’s either?

Maybe someone heard all the SA allegations from his family in Utah and came and stole hear away to protect her... and then he said if you took my daughter bring her back..... that's about all I gathered from the bash CM fest.
 
  • #635
IMO it was hitting her head at the pond, which could have been forgiven. And, as Steve said, respect would have flowed to them for being truthful. lmo


Sorry, who is Steve?
 
  • #636
Oops I was watching the live discussion rather than the video they posted of the interview with DW discussing a 17 year old.

 
  • #637
Honestly, I feelnlike the last thing anyone should be doing is blocking their number. With any luck their next call may he them reaching out to someone for help. I do so much hope that no one denies them that much if they ask for it.
I would, if they don’t show better manners
Honestly, I feelnlike the last thing anyone should be doing is blocking their number. With any luck their next call may he them reaching out to someone for help. I do so much hope that no one denies them that much if they ask for it.
I wouldn’t interview them - <modsnip> Where is their legal advice? What a mess !
MOO !
 
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  • #638
Steve's summary should be required listening for anyone who deeply cares about Summer's disappearance. That's really all she wrote. Don said in so many ways what happened, under whose care she was at the time and how he cleaned it up.

IMO it was hitting her head at the pond, which could have been forgiven. And, as Steve said, respect would have flowed to them for being truthful. lmo
Is this on tonight’s TIR? Is it at the end?
 
  • #639
Agree. We could find a correlation between spoken words (always taking into consideration under what circumstances they were made). And see how body language connects.

Maybe there are other points to consider, Tiff?



Sorry, who is Steve?
The analyst who was with CM for tonight's show. He was asked for his opinion, and summary, which I paraphrased. He never mentioned a pond incident or any other specific accident that is my opinion as I stated three times.
 
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Maybe someone heard all the SA allegations from his family in Utah and came and stole hear away to protect her... and then he said if you took my daughter bring her back..... that's about all I gathered from the bash CM fest.

Another day and another bowl of spaghetti thrown at the wall. How many people has DW thrown under the bus at this point? Look there not here.....
 
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