AMBER ALERT TN - Summer Moon-Utah Wells, 5, Rogersville, 15 Jun 2021 #24

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  • #861
For those of you who listened to the CM show, is it true that CM doxed DW by naming his employer? During the Cher interview, DW reported that CM had mentioned his employer by name, and that now his employer is getting calls saying that they should fire him. DW is concerned that he may lose his livelihood. If this is true, it sounds like DW isn't the only one who has gone off the rails.

ETA If DW loses his job, this will make it even harder for him to get his boys back and support his family. I hope this doesn't happen.
 
  • #862
That completely fits my theory that he had the boys with him that day. I strongly believe they weren't home when whatever happened to Summer. IMO, DW brought them back and dropped them off at the creek... that's why they were the first people he saw, and that's why he didn't go up to the house first. IMO, that's also why he had the Subaru that day instead of his truck. MOO

Hi,

His pronouns tell me, he was not by himself, at that time. He is recalling what he did that day, not another day. Now, this situation will be etched on his (yours or mine, god forgive) brain. Tiny details we may forget, but then recall them later on. I can't express this enough, he is taking us through his actions of his response to the news of, Summers disappearance, and i repeat. NOT ANOTHER DAY, THAT DAY!
 
  • #863
For those of you who listened to the CM show, is it true that CM doxed DW by naming his employer? During the Cher interview, DW reported that CM had mentioned his employer by name, and that now his employer is getting calls saying that they should fire him. DW is concerned that he may lose his livelihood. If this is true, it sounds like DW isn't the only one who has gone off the rails.
I didn’t hear that. You can check the transcript and DW stated the name of his employers and in the transcript and interview the name is blacked out.
 
  • #864
I think he has conducted himself quite well actually. Not to mention we aren’t just talking about someone that only had their kids taken by CPS but someone that is also missing a 5 year old daughter at the same time.
Have you listened to his words in his statements and interviews? Have you read the transcripts? This is the behavior of someone in the throes of rage. He is not conducting himself well. He isn't even close to being appropriate. This is a fact backed up by evidence, not an opinion.
 
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  • #865
Yet, he frames that unconditional love by the little girl's dislike of her mother for the first couple of years of her life, (Don says) and that her own mother had to COERCE Summer to like her, by taking her on car outings. There is so much more, that is flat out creepy, IMO, with Don awakening with Summer's leg under him, and his covering her up or whatever.

What I find particularly disturbing about DW's statements is that he seems to take pride, or find pleasure , in the fact that Summer didn't have a bond with her mother for the first two years of her life. That is not an indicator of a healthy relationship, imo. And it is not the first indicator of an unhealthy marital relationship that we have been given. We see it in DW describing the reasons that Summer gravitated toward Robin ( she is professional, she is pretty, etc. etc.)...we see it in his description of CW's drinking when he says that he has to babysit her...we see it when DW says that CW wants to be a good person (the implication being she tries but fails), and so on and so forth.
 
  • #866
For those of you who listened to the CM show, is it true that CM doxed DW by naming his employer? During the Cher interview, DW reported that CM had mentioned his employer by name, and that now his employer is getting calls saying that they should fire him. DW is concerned that he may lose his livelihood. If this is true, it sounds like DW isn't the only one who has gone off the rails.

ETA If DW loses his job, this will make it even harder for him to get his boys back and support his family. I hope this doesn't happen.

I did not hear CM say the name of DW's employer.
 
  • #867
What I find particularly disturbing about DW's statements is that he seems to take pride, or find pleasure , in the fact that Summer didn't have a bond with her mother for the first two years of her life. That is not an indicator of a healthy relationship, imo. And it is not the first indicator of an unhealthy marital relationship that we have been given. We see it in DW describing the reasons that Summer gravitated toward Robin ( she is professional, she is pretty, etc. etc.)...we see it in his description of CW's drinking when he says that he has to babysit her...we see it when DW says that CW wants to be a good person (the implication being she tries but fails), and so on and so forth.

I'll say I was concerned that perhaps CW's addictions affected her post-partum bonding. That would be a sign to get your wife help rather then take pleasure in the fact that your daughter bonded with you and not her mother.

I'd like to know who did the feeding and changing when SW was a baby? If it was CW I find it hard to believe she wasn't bonding.

It also could be the completely normal case of a child getting excited to see the parent she isn't around all day and DW taking that to mean she didn't bond with her mom. What kid doesn't run to the door to see mom or dad come home from work?
 
  • #868
If you look at the transcript for the new call, it says 8/15 at 12:06pm. I don't know if that's the call time or the transcription time but I would assume call time.

At 4:32 in this video:

That date and time represents when the transcript was generated. It does not represent the date/time of the call. You can verify this by looking at the start of the transcript on the first call video. It has a date of 8/3, but the call was actually 8/1. The date/time of the second call is still unknown.
 
  • #869
For those of you who listened to the CM show, is it true that CM doxed DW by naming his employer? During the Cher interview, DW reported that CM had mentioned his employer by name, and that now his employer is getting calls saying that they should fire him. DW is concerned that he may lose his livelihood. If this is true, it sounds like DW isn't the only one who has gone off the rails.

ETA If DW loses his job, this will make it even harder for him to get his boys back and support his family. I hope this doesn't happen.

It is not true. DW himself mentioned the name of his employer way back when he did this interview with the Kingsport times on June 21st.

4:40 mark

i just hang on to i i i hang on to what
04:36
good people say i don't listen
04:38
like we've been dealing with you know
04:40
even in <employer> we deal with all
04:42
kinds
04:42
and you know and of course i've been
04:45
i've been to prison
 
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  • #870
For those of you who listened to the CM show, is it true that CM doxed DW by naming his employer? During the Cher interview, DW reported that CM had mentioned his employer by name, and that now his employer is getting calls saying that they should fire him. DW is concerned that he may lose his livelihood. If this is true, it sounds like DW isn't the only one who has gone off the rails.

ETA If DW loses his job, this will make it even harder for him to get his boys back and support his family. I hope this doesn't happen.

CM has definitely NOT mentioned DW's employer's name. I have watched every video CM has ever done. What DW is doing now is going on to The Chers' videos and slandering CM. This is what DW told CM he was going to do. <modsnip>
 
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  • #871
She stated she went forward when she found out Summer had gone missing because she was afraid DW may have been involved. IMO, there are many personal reasons that people do not originally report SA. It feels embarrassing, it is hard to prove, etc. (I personally did report what happened to me and the trial was the toughest day of my life. A person has to be ready for that and make that decision for themselves. Children are often not equipped for that).

An example: Top 10 Reasons People Do Not Report Sexual Abuse

I remember her stating that the family would not listen to her back then and it was just swept under the table. I think she was 12 at this time.
 
  • #872
For those of you who listened to the CM show, is it true that CM doxed DW by naming his employer? During the Cher interview, DW reported that CM had mentioned his employer by name, and that now his employer is getting calls saying that they should fire him. DW is concerned that he may lose his livelihood. If this is true, it sounds like DW isn't the only one who has gone off the rails.

ETA If DW loses his job, this will make it even harder for him to get his boys back and support his family. I hope this doesn't happen.
DW doxxed himself back on June 21:
Donald Wells: “I just hang on to what good people say. I don’t listen. Even at (his employer) <employer name> we deal with all kinds. And, of course, I’ve been to prison. I try to be around good people and listen to what they say, and what God says. The rest of them can you know what.”​
Watch now: Summer Wells' father believes she may have been taken by human traffickers
@Mountain_Kat beat me to it... again. Dagnabit! ;)
 
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  • #873
Dave Rader is going to be on Duty Ron tonight with a K-9 handler. 9pm EST.

 
  • #874
I was extremely disappointed to hear Candice laughing and taunting in the background while Don was raging and threatening in the 3 minute phone call with Chris that <modsnip > was played last night at the beginning of the Interview Room show.. The more these parents talk, the worse they look.. in my opinion. At one point I had nothing but sympathy for both, now I see that they are in collusion together, though Don blame shifts and Candice doesn’t appear to. I believe they need each other and will protect each other when push comes to shove. I also strongly suspect substance abuse/addiction plays a very big role in a lot of the behavior we have witnessed. As a recovered addict myself there is no question in my mind that the conflicting statements, forgetting, mood swings, poor judgement etc. is caused by active substance abuse or years of what drugs or alcohol can do to your brain over time. As of now I suspect substance abuse plays a significant role in what happened to that beautiful child Summer Moon. I think it happened after they got home from the big day out and <modsnip>, which in turn leads to more substance abuse due to grief, fear, guilt..YouTube etc. I believe that LE have a pretty good idea what has happened and will in fact find Summer’s remains. It all is very sad. I feel sad for the whole family… though Don’s making it difficult to feel much sympathy for him.
 
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  • #875
DW doxxed himself back on June 21:
Donald Wells: “I just hang on to what good people say. I don’t listen. Even at (his employer) <snipped> we deal with all kinds. And, of course, I’ve been to prison. I try to be around good people and listen to what they say, and what God says. The rest of them can you know what.”​
Watch now: Summer Wells' father believes she may have been taken by human traffickers
@Mountain_Kat beat me to it... again. Dagnabit! ;)

I can pinpoint an interview and a time stamp lickety split in this case because I have had to listen and compare statements repeatedly. Seriously, over and over and over , to the point where it makes me want to pull my hair out. :rolleyes:
 
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  • #876
I'll say I was concerned that perhaps CW's addictions affected her post-partum bonding. That would be a sign to get your wife help rather then take pleasure in the fact that your daughter bonded with you and not her mother.

I'd like to know who did the feeding and changing when SW was a baby? If it was CW I find it hard to believe she wasn't bonding.

BBM - oh my gosh, knowing DW's history (which he has admitted to), this question (who did the changing) makes me ill to even think of the possibilities. I work in a large church office and we do thorough background checks on everybody, especially all nursery volunteers (male and female). No matter who you are, <modsnip>
 
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  • #877
If DW loses his job, this will make it even harder for him to get his boys back and support his family. I hope this doesn't happen.

BBM - another reason why DW should just keep his mouth shut, IMO.
 
  • #878
From an attorney, this seems like an excellent bit of advice. May I ask you this question?
If you were representing the Wells family what would your advice to them be regarding interviews with CM and now Sonny and" Cher". IMO these interviews are nothing more than "clickbait", I notice CM followers have gone up considerably since his interviews. I am not sure what his purpose is, certainly, these interviews could jeopardize any case against the Wells family, don't you think. Do you know if they have their own attorney?
IMO I believe they are putting themselves in jeopardy with all these TIR interviews and SM videos dissecting every word. I feel very concerned for this family ! Finding SUMMER is IMPORTANT..how they live their life isn't, at least in finding Summer!
What do you think?
Have you listened to his words in his statements and interviews? Have you read the transcripts? This is the behavior of someone in the throes of rage. He is not conducting himself well. He isn't even close to being appropriate. This is a fact backed up by evidence, not an opinion.
I have listened to his words and I completely disagree with you. This is the behavior of someone going through probably the worst possible thing a parent can go through all while being attacked and down right bullied.
 
  • #879
I was extremely disappointed to hear Candice laughing and taunting in the background while Don was raging and threatening in the 3 minute phone call with Chris that happens over the weekend and was played last night at the beginning of the Interview Room show.. The more these parents talk, the worse they look.. in my opinion.

I am surprised that others are surprised by CW's behavior. And I think that part of the reason people are surprised is because many have decided to throw out what A has said in it's entirety, simply because they don't like A, or have decided that they don't trust her, for whatever reason. I get that, but that hasn't been my approach to A. When A told the story of when CW went off in the Walmart and security had to be called, I paid attention. Particularly because a police report was filed.

Again, CW isn't the shrinking violet she presented herself to be in the TIR interview, IMO.

around the 19:14 mark

 
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  • #880
BBM - another reason why DW should just keep his mouth shut, IMO.

BBM.

No, let him keep talking because marbles are leaking to use an analogy. Imagine you have a wardrobe full of marbles. Red ones are the truth, blue are not so. So you have to go into the wardrobe to take out a red marble (truth) and a blue one falls out, this is leakage. You don't intend to take a blue one, but, it slips out and reveals something that you didn't intend to.
 
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