AMBER ALERT TN - Summer Moon-Utah Wells, 5, Rogersville, 15 Jun 2021 #24

[skibaboo]

I have listened to his words and I completely disagree with you. This is the behavior of someone going through probably the worst possible thing a parent can go through all while being attacked and down right bullied.

I'm flabbergasted you see it so differently. What is happening is a result of the words that have come from DW's mouth, what he has instigated. This all should be about Summer and DW has made it about him. In the videos I have watched, he has not been attacked or bullied. He has been given a chance to talk, and he talked. What he said has been analysed, by experts who want to help find Summer. DW lit the touch paper, he is responsible for the consequences. MOO

 

[December]

No his victim/s cannot sue him as that would be a civil case but they can place criminal charges if they were children when it occurred. They have removed the statute of limitations only for child SA - not for adult SA. That might be where there is a misreading of the statutes.

Ooooh... (Smacks self) Now i get it.

 

[Estelle]

BBM.

No, let him keep talking because marbles are leaking to use an analogy. Imagine you have a wardrobe full of marbles. Red ones are the truth, blue are not so. So you have to go into the wardrobe to take out a red marble (truth) and a blue one falls out, this is leakage. You don't intend to take a blue one, but, it slips out and reveals something that you didn't intend to.

An excellent analogy.

<modnsip> It's almost as if they are enjoying the attention - even if it's negative.

 

[Chelly]

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Thanks Everyone,
Tiff

 

[Rose in SC]

BBM.

No, let him keep talking because marbles are leaking to use an analogy. Imagine you have a wardrobe full of marbles. Red ones are the truth, blue are not so. So you have to go into the wardrobe to take out a red marble (truth) and a blue one falls out, this is leakage. You don't intend to take a blue one, but, it slips out and reveals something that you didn't intend to.

Great analogy! By his own words and actions, DW is leaking all over the place (IMO).

 

[MsMarple]

Speaking of DW's words...

IMO it's surprising and concerning that DW said only God knows where Summer is. This was back on June 21. If he believes Summer was abducted wouldn't her abductor know where she is? It makes no sense. It feels like there's no point in even looking for Summer since only God knows where she is.

June 21, 2021:
Donald Wells: “Somebody has taken her out of the area, and I don’t know whether it’s a human trafficking ring or what, or who, but I knew from the first day that she wasn’t in the area.”
...
“I just feel that she’s not in the area”
Wells said he’s trying to have hope and faith in God that He will protect Summer, wherever she is, “and He will turn it all around some day.”

“All I can do is put it in God’s hands,” Wells said. “I just appreciate everybody for their efforts because I know they’re trying hard. They’re not stopping but I just feel that she’s not in the area. And they know that. They still have to search.”

He added, “We’ve still got our God. We’ve got to put our faith and trust in Him. He’s the only one who knows where she’s at.”
Watch now: Summer Wells' father believes she may have been taken by human traffickers
BBM.

 

[Tiff23fr]

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[justaparent]

I was extremely disappointed to hear Candice laughing and taunting in the background while Don was raging and threatening in the 3 minute phone call with Chris that happens over the weekend and was played last night at the beginning of the Interview Room show.. The more these parents talk, the worse they look.. in my opinion. At one point I had nothing but sympathy for both, now I see that they are in collusion together, though Don blame shifts and Candice doesn’t appear to. I believe they need each other and will protect each other when push comes to shove. I also strongly suspect substance abuse/addiction plays a very big role in a lot of the behavior we have witnessed. As a recovered addict myself there is no question in my mind that the conflicting statements, forgetting, mood swings, poor judgement etc. is caused by active substance abuse or years of what drugs or alcohol can do to your brain over time. As of now I suspect substance abuse plays a significant role in what happened to that beautiful child Summer Moon. I think it happened after they got home from the big day out and I suspect both parents know what happened, which in turn leads to more substance abuse due to grief, fear, guilt..YouTube etc. I believe that LE have a pretty good idea what has happened and will in fact find Summer’s remains. It all is very sad. I feel sad for the whole family… though Don’s making it difficult to feel much sympathy for him.

IMO the few things we’ve heard from CW recently make her denials of everything H initially said much more questionable.

 

[Alethea]

I'm flabbergasted you see it so differently. What is happening is a result of the words that have come from DW's mouth, what he has instigated. This all should be about Summer and DW has made it about him. In the videos I have watched, he has not been attacked or bullied. He has been given a chance to talk, and he talked. What he said has been analysed, by experts who want to help find Summer. DW lit the touch paper, he is responsible for the consequences. MOO

I agree with you so much. It is really frustrating. Anyone who is actually looking out for DW's best interest would tell him to get back to work and stay offline. It is just not in his interest to keep speaking. He is never going to win the public over at this point and he doesn't have to. If the state has enough evidence to charge and prosecute him for a crime he will have to deal with that. If the state doesn't have enough evidence to charge and prosecute him, then he has nothing to prove to anyone. But "speaking out" whether it's with antagonistic hosts or friendly hosts does absolutely NOTHING for DW. He has a right to remain silent and anyone that cared about him would encourage him to use it.

 

[nyvictoria]

OK I’ve been down in the mud listening to Part 3 of DW on Chris’ YouTube and I’m exhausted.

It’s just incredible how DW goes on and on and on about the guy he fired. He accuses him of bad/illegal/immoral/problematic behavior in every way possible. He’s talking about what this guy did, not just recently, but back 7 years ago.

DW admits that TBI and FBI have told him the guy has an alibi. But DW still insists on exposing every little bit of dirty laundry the guy has. He may be everything that DW claims he is but he has an alibi. It’s all a calculated distraction at someone else’s expense.

The most unacceptable thing of all is that DW admits CB was not comfortable with how this guy was looking at Summer. That she told DW several times on several different occasions about how uncomfortable she was. Yet DW still had him coming to the house, exposing Summer to him. If all of this is true, he put his daughter in danger over and over again.

He tosses CB under the bus plenty, too. He’s an equal opportunity blamer.

The recent phone call threatening and f-bombing Chris and, once again, blaming his SA victim and calling her a liar is beyond disgusting.

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[MsMarple]

IMO what one says can be interpreted in different ways, depending on context and circumstances.

For example, millions of proud parents and grandparents announce that they love a child to death. No big deal in that circumstance.

By contrast, however, to this day whenever I hear that phrase I'm reminded of Jonathan Richardson, the man convicted of torturing, raping and murdering little Teghan Skiba, saying during his testimony at trial "I loved her to death."

In that circumstance and in the context of Richardson's horrific crime it causes my stomach to twist into knots. And that's the best way I can describe hearing some of what DW has said. It's not so much what he says as the baggage that comes with the words. MOO.

 

[Tiff23fr]

Mod Note:
The date of the 3 min phone call between DW and CM does not have a direct correlation to finding Summer or answers in this case at this time. Please drop the issue of when it took place, unless at some point in time the when becomes a key issue to the case.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

I really hope TBI,LE, and search teams have enough info that leads to SW, what happened to her,and anybody,and everybody that is involved. Let today be the day they get that break that cracks the case.

 

[dacjess]

I am surprised that others are surprised by CW's behavior. And I think that part of the reason people are surprised is because many have decided to throw out what A has said in it's entirety, simply because they don't like A, or have decided that they don't trust her, for whatever reason. I get that, but that hasn't been my approach to A. When A told the story of when CW went off in the Walmart and security had to be called, I paid attention. Particularly because a police report was filed.

Again, CW isn't the shrinking violet she presented herself to be in the TIR interview, IMO.

around the 19:14 mark

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I appreciate you posting this thread. I had seen these videos in order as CW, then H/A, then DW. My impressions have changed and today I think you’re right. (I have no idea what I’ll think tomorrow!)

I’m still not sure what I think about H’s interview, something seemed off but it could have to do with the tea or vapes, I have no idea. It’s possible they’re all lying (Something could have happened and everyone agreed to cover because of H being there or even H being involved, but the friend, L also being there but just seems pretty unlikely. I could stretch to A and the grandmother but now they’re bringing in some friend who they’d have to lie to also?)
The 3 women agreeing to the way CW behaved means IMO it’s more likely that she behaved that way than 3 women came up with some elaborate plan to hurt CW after her child went missing, IMO. A had specific time frames that day, she didn’t give vague non-answers. I’m sure there were some exaggerations or recollections that aren’t 100% true, as there always are, but she seemed reliable. I question the story about Jose or whatever happened when 14 people all came to visit but I kind of think that was misdirection. I’m not sure that A could confirm that Summer was alive in the car after swimming, but I can see that she’d confirm that if H told her. Also, I’m now more inclined to believe that there is a lot of manipulation coming out of both DW and CW, IMO. Their behavior shows more red flags than A’s does, IMO.

My gut reaction when I first saw the CW house tour was “Summer fell down those basement steps.” I still think something along those lines or possibly something happened with someone who was home in the basement or on the property at that time. I do go back and forth a bit between something happening at the swimming hole and the basement. Just IMO.

 

[ivegotcha]

I really hope TBI,LE, and search teams have enough info that leads to SW, what happened to her,and anybody,and everybody that is involved. Let today be the day they get that break that cracks the case.

I do too, they seem real quiet on the body that was found... almost to quiet like pin dropping..... but I don't know the process when they find someone.... then the announcement.

 

[SLouTh]

I do too, they seem real quiet on the body that was found... almost to quiet like pin dropping..... but I don't know the process when they find someone.... then the announcement.

The news article (posted in the thread) said that local detectives were at the scene and a forensic anthropologist….. I personally believe if they thought it was Summer the TBI / FBI would have been on the scene, rather than local detectives or at least with them…. And the anthropologist to me indicates that bones were vey old… JMO

However I also pray today is the day the make the break in the case ….. and find Summer.

 

[PawneeDew]

What I find particularly disturbing about DW's statements is that he seems to take pride, or find pleasure , in the fact that Summer didn't have a bond with her mother for the first two years of her life. That is not an indicator of a healthy relationship, imo. And it is not the first indicator of an unhealthy marital relationship that we have been given. We see it in DW describing the reasons that Summer gravitated toward Robin ( she is professional, she is pretty, etc. etc.)...we see it in his description of CW's drinking when he says that he has to babysit her...we see it when DW says that CW wants to be a good person (the implication being she tries but fails), and so on and so forth.

Wow...I know what that feels like. MOO emotional abuse.

 

[R.U.Kidding!]

I would tell them what I tell all my clients - don't talk to anyone. Don't talk to the media. Don't do any interviews. Everything you say can be used against you and you don't get any points for doing an interview.

I tell people to log out and stop posting on their SM accounts. Ignore what people say. Focus on your family and your job and your case. The only thing that matters is what LE says and what charges are brought so you are not doing yourself any favors by playing to the media.

The people who successfully play the media have very experienced PR and communications teams. Every statement is workshopped. It's never off the cuff and it's never uncontrolled.

So I hope they get one. They are digging themselves a pretty hole!

 

[flashy09]

IMO the few things we’ve heard from CW recently make her denials of everything H initially said much more questionable.

I think it also makes her lack of emotion during her interview with CM more chilling. I tried to go with strong, I tried to go with people handle grief differently, but she walked into Summer's room and went through her toys like it was a walk in the park.