AMBER ALERT TN - Summer Moon-Utah Wells, 5, Rogersville, 15 Jun 2021 #26

[kkdj]

Considering the evidence, the chances of an accident orfoul play (other than abduction) are close to zero, in my opinion. Those scenarios would require a conspiracy of several people and flawless execution by people who aren't particularly sophisticated.

LE has never stated that they told DW that they don't believe there was an abduction; that is hearsay passed through several people. LE may have said something like, "There is no evidence of an abduction." That doesn't mean much because if Summer was snatched from the roadside, there wouldn't be much evidence, in my opinion, aside from Summer's scent trail ending at the road, which is what we have, and possibly an unfamiliar vehicle in the vicinity, which we also have.

BBM
Interesting take.
Who are all of the several people you speak of that would be in the conspiracy?

 

[Allabouttrial]

I’ve had an initial opinion since the beginning but knew that things are often not as they first appear. She could have wandered off. She could have been abducted. She could have been sold. She could have been hurt by accident. She could have been hurt purposefully. Nothing had totally proved or disproved any of these. I have to wonder how our opinions would be different if there hadn’t been the many interviews by the parents (especially DW). Unfortunately guilty or not the phrase “Methinks thou doth protest too much” has started to outweigh everything else.

Absolutely 100%. If DW had stayed quiet after CW's interview with Chris I feel there would still be a lot of people on the fence.

 

[SMK777]

Considering the evidence, the chances of an accident or foul play (other than abduction) are close to zero, in my opinion. Those scenarios would require a conspiracy of several people and flawless execution by people who aren't particularly sophisticated.

LE has never stated that they told DW that they don't believe there was an abduction; that is hearsay passed through several people. LE may have said something like, "There is no evidence of an abduction." That doesn't mean much because if Summer was snatched from the roadside, there wouldn't be much evidence, in my opinion, aside from Summer's scent trail ending at the road, which is what we have, and possibly an unfamiliar vehicle in the vicinity, which we also have.

Candus did say in one of the interviews (Rogersville Review, can’t recall which date) that the TBI did not think there’d been an abduction.

 

[dacjess]

Considering the evidence, the chances of an accident or foul play (other than abduction) are close to zero, in my opinion. Those scenarios would require a conspiracy of several people and flawless execution by people who aren't particularly sophisticated.

LE has never stated that they told DW that they don't believe there was an abduction; that is hearsay passed through several people. LE may have said something like, "There is no evidence of an abduction." That doesn't mean much because if Summer was snatched from the roadside, there wouldn't be much evidence, in my opinion, aside from Summer's scent trail ending at the road, which is what we have, and possibly an unfamiliar vehicle in the vicinity, which we also have.

What evidence are you considering? I’m just curious because we’ve had such a lack of evidence in even where everyone was that day, IMO.

I agree your scenario is possible. Where I get stuck is the rural area. Not only would Summer have to emerge from the woods to the road at the moment a car was passing (which is entirely possible), but then that car has to be driven by someone willing to abduct a small child and prepared to evade authorities for the next few months. I know cases like that do happen, just seems unlikely to me in this case. If the Wells lived in a more urban environment, this scenario would probably be my top theory. All just IMO.

 

[enw10110]

THIS.

Everyone seems to think "abduction" means somebody had to come all the way to the house to get her. Why didn't the dogs bark...blah blah blah...

Her scent was picked up by the dogs and ended at the road. That to me says she went down the trail by the road,, someone saw her there, saw no one else around, took the opportunity and grabbed her.

ETA: MOO

I know I've heard that several times before, but do you remember where this info originated?

Also, if that is the case that they followed her scent to the end of the road, could she not have been placed in a vehicle by a family member (either before or after the swimming trip)?

 

[2.curious]

THIS.

Everyone seems to think "abduction" means somebody had to come all the way to the house to get her. Why didn't the dogs bark...blah blah blah...

Her scent was picked up by the dogs and ended at the road. That to me says she went down the trail by the road,, someone saw her there, saw no one else around, took the opportunity and grabbed her.

ETA: MOO

I thought about her wearing her new "school clothes". Maybe she was excited about wearing the new clothes and wanted to walk down to where she had seen her brothers catch the school bus. Didn't DW state that that was the trail the boys would take to catch the bus?

 

[kittythehare]

We cannot be sure she went to the basement.
She may have said she was going there but it's quite possible she exited the door she had entered, now that mum's back was safely turned as she returned to her own mother's accommodation.

It's equally possible she did go to the basement and but left by the basement door.
Her attention could have been drawn by
-a person she knew
-a person she did not know who offered her a gift
-an animal
-new views freshly provided by the tree trimmers

 

[TTF14]

We cannot be sure she went to the basement.
She may have said she was going there but it's quite possible she exited the door she had entered, now that mum's back was safely turned as she returned to her own mother's accommodation.

It's equally possible she did go to the basement and but left by the basement door.
Her attention could have been drawn by
-a person she knew
-a person she did not know who offered her a gift
-an animal
-new views freshly provided by the tree trimmers

Someone in the basement may have been waiting for her.

Where did we hear about her scent being tracked to the road and then stopping? Did LE say that?

ETA: Just realized that while I was typing this post, there was a Twisted Tea commercial on in the background. Ugh!

 

[Whiteorchids]

I’ve had an initial opinion since the beginning but knew that things are often not as they first appear. She could have wandered off. She could have been abducted. She could have been sold. She could have been hurt by accident. She could have been hurt purposefully. Nothing had totally proved or disproved any of these. I have to wonder how our opinions would be different if there hadn’t been the many interviews by the parents (especially DW). Unfortunately guilty or not the phrase “Methinks thou doth protest too much” has started to outweigh everything else.

Or she could not be missing at all and they know exactly where she is.

 

[dacjess]

I read in the previous thread that someone was wondering if the tree trimmers were a fake company. In the DW/CM video, they both say that LE questioned the tree trimmers the day Summer disappeared.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

I read in the previous thread that someone was wondering if the tree trimmers were a fake company. In the DW/CM video, they both say that LE questioned the tree trimmers the day Summer disappeared.

The power company in charge ought to know. I'm sure LE has contacted them too. MOO

 

[Spartygirl]

Someone in the basement may have been waiting for her.

Where did we hear about her scent being tracked to the road and then stopping? Did LE say that?

ETA: Just realized that while I was typing this post, there was a Twisted Tea commercial on in the background. Ugh!

But if the boys were HOME that day and the Dogs were there also, I doubt anyone was in the basement, waiting. IMO
(First version of boys, dogs being home--Per DW & CW )

OR--
If dogs were not there that day (then where were they??)
AND the boys went to work with DW, then maybe someone could have broken in and been waiting in the basement.
(2nd version of boys gone, dogs gone, per DW )

See-- this is a HUGE issue with me-- we cannot get the same version of who was where and when the day Summer went missing.
**The Boys can't be in 2 places same time--they were either home, doing chores per CW and home playing video games- Per DW and CW
OR -- they went to work with DW- per DW **

Also-- Regarding the "her scent being tracked to end of the path" --that Came from DW, NOT LE

I have not seen LE state this and if they have, then I have missed it and would love to see it.

I feel ya on the Twisted Tea -- my friend was drinking some the other night and all I could think of was little Summer missing.
UGH

WHERE IS SUMMER ????

 

[SMK777]

Also-- Regarding the "her scent being tracked to end of the path" --that Came from DW, NOT LE

I have not seen LE state this and if they have, then I have missed it and would love to see it.

My experience, too.

 

[MsBetsy]

But if the boys were HOME that day and the Dogs were there also, I doubt anyone was in the basement, waiting. IMO
(First version of boys, dogs being home--Per DW & CW )

OR--
If dogs were not there that day (then where were they??)
AND the boys went to work with DW, then maybe someone could have broken in and been waiting in the basement.
(2nd version of boys gone, dogs gone, per DW )

See-- this is a HUGE issue with me-- we cannot get the same version of who was where and when the day Summer went missing.
**The Boys can't be in 2 places same time--they were either home, doing chores per CW and home playing video games- Per DW and CW
OR -- they went to work with DW- per DW **

Also-- Regarding the "her scent being tracked to end of the path" --that Came from DW, NOT LE

I have not seen LE state this and if they have, then I have missed it and would love to see it.

I feel ya on the Twisted Tea -- my friend was drinking some the other night and all I could think of was little Summer missing.
UGH

WHERE IS SUMMER ????

In the interview with Duty Ron, David Rader said the dogs tracked Summer's scent to the end of the driveway and lost it at the road. That points to either Summer walking there and back the way she came or getting into a car at the end of the driveway. Imo

 

[CrimeDawg123]

But if the boys were HOME that day and the Dogs were there also, I doubt anyone was in the basement, waiting. IMO
(First version of boys, dogs being home--Per DW & CW )

OR--
If dogs were not there that day (then where were they??)
AND the boys went to work with DW, then maybe someone could have broken in and been waiting in the basement.
(2nd version of boys gone, dogs gone, per DW )

See-- this is a HUGE issue with me-- we cannot get the same version of who was where and when the day Summer went missing.
**The Boys can't be in 2 places same time--they were either home, doing chores per CW and home playing video games- Per DW and CW
OR -- they went to work with DW- per DW **

Also-- Regarding the "her scent being tracked to end of the path" --that Came from DW, NOT LE

I have not seen LE state this and if they have, then I have missed it and would love to see it.

I feel ya on the Twisted Tea -- my friend was drinking some the other night and all I could think of was little Summer missing.
UGH

WHERE IS SUMMER ????

WRT the boys, were they being punished? Were they "locked in" (as per Candus)? The boys would never choose to stay home and do chores rather than go swimming and to Sonic. Nor is it likely they'd choose to go to a job site with their dad. I can't imagine what kind of job site would allow little kids there. The situation with the boys is troublesome to me.

 

[TTF14]

But if the boys were HOME that day and the Dogs were there also, I doubt anyone was in the basement, waiting. IMO
(First version of boys, dogs being home--Per DW & CW )

OR--
If dogs were not there that day (then where were they??)
AND the boys went to work with DW, then maybe someone could have broken in and been waiting in the basement.
(2nd version of boys gone, dogs gone, per DW )

See-- this is a HUGE issue with me-- we cannot get the same version of who was where and when the day Summer went missing.
**The Boys can't be in 2 places same time--they were either home, doing chores per CW and home playing video games- Per DW and CW
OR -- they went to work with DW- per DW **

Also-- Regarding the "her scent being tracked to end of the path" --that Came from DW, NOT LE

I have not seen LE state this and if they have, then I have missed it and would love to see it.

I feel ya on the Twisted Tea -- my friend was drinking some the other night and all I could think of was little Summer missing.
UGH

WHERE IS SUMMER ????

We don't know what the boys have told LE. They may have told them one version at first, and then when they were removed and separated told another version. They may have known someone was in the basement. It could have been an invited guest.

 

[Spartygirl]

I know I've heard that several times before, but do you remember where this info originated?

Also, if that is the case that they followed her scent to the end of the road, could she not have been placed in a vehicle by a family member (either before or after the swimming trip)?

It came from DW at the very beginning, IIRC

Also in this article where DW speaks of her scent ending, he states that HE already knew that, but dogs confirmed it**
(HOW did HE already know that??.. Does he KNOW what happened? )
Watch now: 'I'll see her in the resurrection': A month later Summer Wells' dad has little hope for her recovery | | johnsoncitypress.com

 

[Spartygirl]

We don't know what the boys have told LE. They may have told them one version at first, and then when they were removed and separated told another version. They may have known someone was in the basement. It could have been an invited guest.

BBM-
Ahh- Thank you----my mind did not go there LOL
I have brain fog today !!!
I was thinking a stranger or break in of some sort.

Yes, that could be a possibility.

There are just too many possibilities in this case of what could have happened, unfortunately.
Sigh

 

[MimosaMornings]

WRT the boys, were they being punished? Were they "locked in" (as per Candus)? The boys would never choose to stay home and do chores rather than go swimming and to Sonic. Nor is it likely they'd choose to go to a job site with their dad. I can't imagine what kind of job site would allow little kids there. The situation with the boys is troublesome to me.

Depends on what DW was doing on the job site. Was he doing a new build or a repair job at someone’s house?
Putting up drywall, joint compound and sanding in an house under construction with no a/c?
Maybe other trades were there at the same time and the boys wandered around talking to them?
Maybe he let the boys mix the mud or drive in the screws.
Or eating chips and playing videos games without adults around to tell you what to do or someone telling you to watch your little sister?
Waterpark versus splashing in a shallow creek?
JMO

 

[MsMarple]

My understanding of his rationale for giving interviews is that he believes the negative publicity he has received will put people off searching for Summer.
He wants all hands on deck to help find her. Not unreasonable and he has a right to rebut.

IMO DW himself created the negative publicity. And scarcely a month after Summer disappeared DW declared to msm that <modsnip: This was journalist interpretation, not direct quote attributed to DW> he'd instead see her "in the resurrection."

How exactly does that rally all hands on deck to help find her? Serious question.

ETA to clarify:
KTN: How are your three sons doing?

Wells: “They’re coping with it OK. I don’t know why, but they’re dealing with it OK. They’re doing a lot better than me and Candus are. Maybe my kids are looking at it like, maybe God will bring her back. I don’t know. Statistically speaking there’s a good chance she’s already dead. I hate to think that. I love her with all my heart. If nothing else, I’ll see her in the resurrection. As long as I keep the commandments and do what I’m supposed to do, I’ll see her.”
Watch now: 'I'll see her in the resurrection': A month later Summer Wells' dad has little hope for her recovery