AMBER ALERT TN - Summer Moon-Utah Wells, 5, Rogersville, 15 Jun 2021 #27

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  • #41
bbm
Yes, we have to rely on msm and LE for updates and at this time it appears that they haven't warned the immediate community of kidnappers ?
So, no danger for other residences ?

An abduction is often linked to a family member, close or distant.
 
  • #42
But then again they say the chance of an abduction is close to zero.
I may have missed something, but who said this exactly and when?
I know LE said it was not their assumption, but I don't remember them saying "near zero chance", I remember "nothing & no one is off the table".
Thanks.
 
  • #43
bbm
Yes, we have to rely on msm and LE for updates and at this time it appears that they haven't warned the immediate community of kidnappers ?
So, no danger for other residences ?

IMO there would only be need to warn the community if there was any indication of a stranger abduction.
If someone very well known to SW, such as a direct family member or acquaintance, was waiting somewhere like say the dog trail to abduct her or do something to her that resulted in a need for her to disappear, then there would be no reason to alert the community. IMO no alert because it was a targeted act.
 
  • #44
An abduction is often linked to a family member, close or distant.
Or a family friend ?
Was there any other adults temp. living or visiting at the Well's residence during that time ?
A general question ... as imo, LE have checked them out as much as they're able to do so.
 
  • #45
I have been going through each interview, news article, and post and have been thinking all night about something specific. I can’t find it now so now I’m unsure if I was dreaming. Does anyone recall reading or hearing that the basement door was locked from the outside when mom, grandma, and SW went to town?
 
  • #46
I hate that CW named a boy in particular to watch Summer, if that whole scenario is true. That is a lot of weight on his shoulders now.
When did CW name a boy in particular to watch Summer? She said that H called her while she was at the hospital and invited them over. She told him to ask his mom and he said his mom was dead asleep in the bathroom. CW said she had taken him places before because A never took him anywhere.

After CW got to the house H said he invited himself to go with them. He never said anything about wanting to go with them so he could watch Summer. Imo
 
  • #47
This is just so frustrating. I don't really have anything useful to contribute but I think about Summer everyday.
 
  • #48
Thank you for sharing @LeeAnnB . I have family experience with drug/alcohol addiction and when CW describes that day, how the time is so fluid and things blend into each other, giving alcohol to a minor without seemingly a second thought... And then she even commented to CM how she never knows what time it is - this rings so many bells and raises so many red flags for me. I don't know too many mom's who aren't keenly aware of what time it is during the day except when other factors are at play.

Depending what happens with DW if he is charged of other crimes, she may have to start punching a clock and working a nine to five job to support her family.

Then she will be aware of the time.
 
  • #49
I have been going through each interview, news article, and post and have been thinking all night about something specific. I can’t find it now so now I’m unsure if I was dreaming. Does anyone recall reading or hearing that the basement door was locked from the outside when mom, grandma, and SW went to town?
I think at one point, one of the parents said, "Nobody in, nobody out." in reference to the boys being locked in the house. In his conversation with Trisha last night, CM said when they left the basement tour, CW locked the door from the outside. That's off the top of my head, maybe somebody else has more specifics. JMO
 
  • #50
When did CW name a boy in particular to watch Summer? She said that H called her while she was at the hospital and invited them over. She told him to ask his mom and he said his mom was dead asleep in the bathroom. CW said she had taken him places before because A never took him anywhere.

After CW got to the house H said he invited himself to go with them. He never said anything about wanting to go with them so he could watch Summer. Imo
CBW told CM that she told W (middle son) directly to “watch sissy.” I’m not the OP, so not sure if this is what they were referring to.
 
  • #51
I think at one point, one of the parents said, "Nobody in, nobody out." in reference to the boys being locked in the house. In his conversation with Trisha last night, CM said when they left the basement tour, CW locked the door from the outside. That's off the top of my head, maybe somebody else has more specifics. JMO
It’s in the time stamps I posted today from the second interview with CM. CBW said they were “locked in, nobody in, nobody out.”
 
  • #52
This is just so frustrating. I don't really have anything useful to contribute but I think about Summer everyday.
I don't either. I'm waiting for someone to crack, or a material discovery.

Amateur opinion and speculation
 
  • #53
I have been going through each interview, news article, and post and have been thinking all night about something specific. I can’t find it now so now I’m unsure if I was dreaming. Does anyone recall reading or hearing that the basement door was locked from the outside when mom, grandma, and SW went to town?
I think she meant the door was usually locked, meaning nobody on the outside could get in but anyone on the inside could unlock the door to get out.

In the beginning Don said he thought the basement door was unlocked but CW said she wasn't sure. CM pointed out that while he was there CW seemed to unlock and lock the door automatically without thinking so that may explain why she doesn't remember if the door was unlocked after discovering Summer was gone. Imo
 
  • #54
Interview with CM and CBW, Pt.2 - Inside Summer’s Home and Bedroom cont.

  • CBW: (about what happens when Summer comes in the house that day) “The boys are actually sitting here, they’re actually sitting right here at the table watching tv.” (13:33)
    • CM: “Okay, so they’re at the table…” (13:36)

    • CBW: “Yeah they were all locked in, nobody can get in, nobody can get out, that kind of thing.” (13:38)

    • CM: “Okay, so watching tv, where’s Summer?” (14:09)

    • CBW: “Summer… she was with me.” (14:11)

    • CM: “Okay, so walk me through that.” (14:14)

    • CBW: “All right well we walked up in here and we got Josie, Wyatt, Waylon, the boys.” (14:18)

    • CM: “Right, you put the groceries down, right?” (14:20)

    • CBW: “Yeah well we went back out and then we brought the groceries in and put them down. And then Mom, she went and took her stuff to her house and put her stuff away.” (14:31)

    • CBW: “And then of course me and Summer went back over and put our stuff away.” (14:35)

    • CM: “Okay. You went back in?” (14:38)

    • CBW: “Yeah me and Summer went back in the house and then we were just doing normal stuff around the house like we normally do and I come out and Mom was sitting there at the time and I come out and I’m standing here and I’m like what are you doing, what are you staring at? She’s like these plants, I gotta get them transplanted.” (14:56)

    • CBW: “I was like well, Summer will help us so I went back in I got by that time she was sitting on the floor playing with her toys in the kitchen where we were just at.” (15:05)

    • CBW: “She was sitting on the floor playing with the toys at that time. I said Summer you want to help plant flowers and she jumped up, left her toys a mess of course. That’s cool.” (15:12)

    • CBW: “We walked over here and we transplanted these cactuses from the little pots that they were in and transplanted these ones here into this bigger pot and that one in that bigger pot.” (15:30)

    • CBW: “And she took the rocks that we’ve gotten from different gem lines when we went up to Gatlinburg and stuff and she was taking, she’s the one that spread all the rocks around in here and then she put her puppies in here, she wanted Chase in here, you know? That was cool.” (15:45)

    • CBW: “Then we went in my mom’s well we can’t get in there now but we went in there, we went in there and got some candy and stuff she gets from Grandma and I said well, I’m gonna go back over to the house. She wanted to go back so I said I’d go back you know. And I brought her, I literally walked over to here, like literally walked right through here where I can see the boys at the kitchen table and I watched her walk in there and afterwards and she was already in there I walked over, I said Wyatt, he looked at me and I said watch Sissy, I’ll be right back. And that’s when I walked back over to my mom’s and I was fixing her brace and stuff like that, I said well Mom, I gotta go back over with the kids and that’s when I come back up into the house with the boys .” (16:45)

    • CM: “You walked into the house…” (16:59)

    • CBW: “I walked into here (talks to cats inside), I walk in here and them three were sitting right here in a row with their eyes glued to the tv like always. And I said boys where’s your sister at? Well she just went downstairs Mom to play.” (17:20)

    • CBW: “So I went over here like this. So this is where the stairs are, it’s actually down under there.” (17:29)

    • CBW: “Our bedroom and then hers is on the other side.” (17:33)

    • CM: “Oh in the basement.” (17:35)

    • CBW: “Yeah in the basement.” (17:36)

    • CBW: “And then I yelled I said Summer, Summer and she didn’t I listened for a minute and I didn’t hear nothing so I went like this (demonstrating going down the basement stairs) because this is how I do to get down here.” (17:46)

    • CBW: “This is mine and my husband’s room then over here well it’s a mess again but this is where Summer and little Waylon was because Waylon’s only nine and they stay down here and these are all her toys, all her paw patrols…” (18:28)

    • CBW: “The boys I brought back down here after she went missing because I didn’t want them upstairs by themselves anymore.” (18:38)

    • CBW: “So yeah I came down and I searched I looked underneath the beds under there, well we can’t really get under… I can’t. But I looked under there, looked under every blanket I could possibly look under. And then I come over here and I looked (mumbling) I didn’t see her nowhere. I don’t remember I don’t recall if this was locked or not, I don’t recall that but I don’t think, see it’s hard, but I know I did come out here and said Summer because sometimes she’ll sit right here and just sit here and play just for, you know and usually when she comes out she comes out and she goes directly that way up to the swing.” (20:10)

    • CBW: “And this is all the further she would go, she wouldn’t leave. She wouldn’t go out nowhere else.” (20:29)

  • CM: “Now walk me through, this little uh cave thing here.” (20:50)
    • “CBW: “That’s not really a cave actually we built this addition, me and Donnie and the kids. And we left this part open because the dog, at the time we did have little puppies, these dogs they were little puppies and we let them go under there, they would run in and out of the bricks over there. There’s actually seven pups up under there now. And it’s always been open like that.” (20:55)

  • CM: “Now what’s this little shed over here?” (22:33)
    • CBW: “Oh that one there? That’s where Donnie keeps all his tools.” (22:37)

    • CM: “Got it. Okay, can I go look?” (22:40)

    • CBW: “Uh, you can go look but it’s a mess.” (22:44)

    • CM: “No? Okay, no, it up to… okay.” (22:46)

    • CBW: “There’s nothing in there. I don’t want you to get hurt.” (22:48)

  • CM: “So, Miss Candus, what I’m, while I’m out here, is there anything that you feel is important that you’d want to tell the world that I haven’t asked you that you wanna let them know?” (26:15)
    • CBW: “Not really. Just, hope that everybody that’s looking for her that we can find her, bring her home safely. She was very precious to me.” (26:29)

    • CM: “And the authorities are working hard on this.” (26:32)

    • CBW: “Yes, from my understanding, yes.” (26:34)

  • CM: “Now there is a rumor about these polygraph tests. Clear that up.” (26:46)
    • CBW: “Alright. The first one that I took, and I didn’t really take it, cuz they kinda threw me in the back of the squad car, so I was really upset and you know, just all the I was crying my eyes out. And so when I got up there to the courthouse, we tried to do it, but I couldn’t do it. So, we waited a few days and then I went back and I did it and I passed it. So, and that was that.” (27:10)

    • CM: “Okay and then what about the rumors of this relationship situation with Hunter?” (27:20)

    • CBW: “Are you crazy? I got a husband and four kids that I love to death. To me, Hunter was another one of my kids. That’s how I felt about any kid.” (27:34)

  • CM: “Now when I was on the phone with you yesterday, briefly, you said he got the story out of order, but it sounded like he was kind of telling the truth there.” (27:43)
    • CBW: “He was kind of telling the truth, but the way he was telling where we went and how we did it was all twisted up.” (27:48)

    • CM: “What’s different that you want to clear up?” (27:51)

    • CBW: “Well because when we left from the emergency room, we went straight to the smoke shop and that’s when I got, think, the cigarettes and stuff like that there. And then we stopped at the Hippie House and I got those cheap vapes because they’re cheap there. And then we went and put my mom’s prescription in, and then we went to Warrior’s, and then we come back to Walgreen’s, got Mom’s prescription, went to Sonic, then to Priceless, then to his house.” (28:18)

    • CM: “Okay.”

    • CBW: “That’s exactly. In that order.” (28:22)

    • CM: “Okay, so he had it different from what you remember?” (28:26)

    • CBM: “Right.It’s not how I remember, it’s how it was. It’s the truth. I was driving. I knew where I was going.” (28:27)

    • CM: “Okay and what about, he said that he asked you for the tea and that you gave him a tea.” (28:42)

    • CBW: “He didn’t ask me for nothing. He asked me for a Mountain Dew. I got him a Mountain Dew.” (28:44)

  • CM: “Okay and what about the pillow?” (29:03)
    • CBW: “The pillow, what pillow?” (29:04)

    • CM: “She’s sitting on a pillow.” (29:05)

    • CBW: “She’s… Oh, Mom gets mad because if the kids get in their wet bathing suit and stuff, so I just put the pillow underneath there so Mom wasn’t complaining.” (29:14)

  • CM: “There is a time frame here between this trailer and that house within, you said two to ten minutes, maybe…” (29:29)
    • CBW: “No, two to five.” (29:31)

    • CM: “Two to five. And then she goes in, and now she’s gone. What do you think happened?” (29:38)

    • CBW: “I dunnno.” (29:40)

    • CM: “Where would a suspect have been, in your opinion, in this area?”

    • CBW: “My opinion? They could have been sitting anywhere. They could have been sitting over here off, just off the little edge right here. Or where that bus is, that little bushy area right there they could have been sitting there.” (29:56)

    • CBW: “And I just recently found out that there was like, uh I guess he’s like a child molestor that lives like literally eight minutes from my house. He can literally walk from his house into my house within eight minutes.” (30:13)

    • CBW: “And like that bushy area right there, you can’t really tell if anybody’s crouched down there or anything.” (30:22)

    • CM: “What do the authorities think?” (30:23)

    • CBW: “I don’t know what they think. I really don’t.” (30:25)

She mentions a child molester living eight minutes away, but says nothing about SW sleeping in the same bed as her,and DW. Not only that she said SW had a completely different sleeping area altogether. SMH. MOO
 
  • #55
CBW told CM that she told W (middle son) directly to “watch sissy.” I’m not the OP, so not sure if this is what they were referring to.
From what I remember she asked all three boys to watch Summer after they got home and she went into the house. I don't remember her singling out the middle child.

She said the youngest son felt guilty that he didn't go down and play with her but she assured him it was not his fault. Imo
 
  • #56
From what I remember she asked all three boys to watch Summer after they got home and she went into the house. I don't remember her singling out the middle child.

She said the youngest son felt guilty that he didn't go down and play with her but she assured him it was not his fault. Imo
Sorry, I may not have been clear. I wasn’t giving my opinion. Just saying what she told CM, in her own words. Time stamp around 16:45.
 
  • #57
From what I remember she asked all three boys to watch Summer after they got home and she went into the house. I don't remember her singling out the middle child.

She said the youngest son felt guilty that he didn't go down and play with her but she assured him it was not his fault. Imo

It seems there may be some confusion on watching the boys discussions. Hope this helps…

(Video link embedded in sentence.)

I said W***, he looked at me and I said watch Sissy, I’ll be right back. And that’s when I walked back over to my mom’s and I was fixing her brace and stuff like that, I said well Mom, I gotta go back over with the kids and that’s when I come back up into the house with the boys .” (16:41)
 
  • #58
From what I remember she asked all three boys to watch Summer after they got home and she went into the house. I don't remember her singling out the middle child.

She said the youngest son felt guilty that he didn't go down and play with her but she assured him it was not his fault. Imo
I don't know which boy is oldest, middle or youngest so whichever one she told to Chris in her interview.
Courtesy of @dacjess, post #18, post #34 from this morning:

She wanted to go back so I said I’d go back you know. And I brought her, I literally walked over to here, like literally walked right through here where I can see the boys at the kitchen table and I watched her walk in there and afterwards and she was already in there I walked over, I said [W], he looked at me and I said watch Sissy, I’ll be right back.
 
  • #59
From what I remember she asked all three boys to watch Summer after they got home and she went into the house. I don't remember her singling out the middle child.

She said the youngest son felt guilty that he didn't go down and play with her but she assured him it was not his fault. Imo
Why would Summer need to be watched while she was inside her own home? She was 5-yrs old and according to her mother, had worn a path from the basement door to her swing by herself.
 
  • #60
I don't know which boy is oldest, middle or youngest so whichever one she told to Chris in her interview.
Courtesy of @dacjess, post #18, post #34 from this morning:

She wanted to go back so I said I’d go back you know. And I brought her, I literally walked over to here, like literally walked right through here where I can see the boys at the kitchen table and I watched her walk in there and afterwards and she was already in there I walked over, I said [W], he looked at me and I said watch Sissy, I’ll be right back.
I wasn’t sure if we were allowed to post a child’s full name so I just used initial. Two of them have the same initials but in this case, the name she said was the middle child.
 
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