AMBER ALERT TN - Summer Moon-Utah Wells, 5, Rogersville, 15 Jun 2021 #28

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  • #161
The right answer is:

We love you Summer. Mommy and Daddy are looking for you. We are trying to find you and bring you home. We will NEVER stop looking. Be strong! We are doing everything we can. If you can run and get away DO IT! We will find you! We love you!

That’s the right answer.

MOO
 
  • #162
Its not to say that DW does not love Summer. It is the way in which his love is expressed. That was the major concern for the panel when CM did the live discussion part 3. Given his (DW) history.
 
  • #163
He said he saw the video and saw it was the brothers, not the friend. It does not sound like he misunderstood what she was saying, in my opinion. JMO

Also, DD is a retired Funeral Director. He is an experienced, educated man that worked in a serious role. I don't think he was taking his role as spokesman lightly.

I think he was repeating what he was being told. JMO

starts @ 60:20
"...the the video i saw was of uh summer and her three brothers and but not , not the other young man..."


was it from that day or from a totally separate time that you'd seen that video?


"that video that she showed me was the date she showed me that day that Summer went missing okay

because okay they they had gone out there swimming"

When I saw DD interviewed he said prior to his career as a funeral director he had been an EMT for many years. Also a very responsible position requiring attention to detail.
 
  • #164
When listening to the Cher’s interview last night it seems DW purposely repeated his self-glorified statement about working so hard so CW could spend so much time making memories with her children when she entered the house.
IMO is covert aggressive behavior and troubling.
Why does he insist on continuing this narrative. Doesn’t he follow the line if thinking that CW must be grieving horribly since now she doesn’t have the company of her only daughter or her sons?
Yet he continues to make the statement as some sort or dig on CW.
CW most likely recently found out some troubling accusations against DW. Why does he continue to treat her as though SHE is in the doghouse???

Totally right about the covert aggressive behaviour. It isn't really that covert but.

Didn't you hear her sock it to him?
Look back a few pages Mountain_kat posted the link with it time stamped for us if you missed it in the show.

CW is not tolerating anything, she is mad as hell.
At him.

moo
 
  • #165


Cher:
Q: maybe summer's listening to
you right now maybe or someone who has
summer may be listening to you what
would you say?
DW: i'd like to say you know,
a lot of people say that i'm hiding
behind the church.
Cher: yeah
DW: they're right
i'm hiding behind the church.
you know god can cover a lot of sins
i've been i have been i've done a lot of
bad things in my life um,
you know and god can cover a lot of sins
and you know and that's my hope and prayer
you know i'm not saying that i'm a major criminal or anybody thing that
everybody's trying to make me out to be
because i'm not that person that
law enforcement and people like ernie,
or mcdonough is trying to make me out to be, because i'm not that person i have a
kind heart i always have.
that's why i got out of
that stuff because i do have a kind of heart.
i'm not willing to hurt anybody i've
never hurt anybody
um, but i know god does offer forgiveness and i hope you all do the same thing you know, that's what we all seek is forgiveness
of our sins, because nobody is sinless we all we all fall short.

Give or take, he uses appximately 193 words basically talking about himself. Most important he doesn't answer the question about what he would say if summer is listening. So she asked again. But notice the subtle shift nicluding whoever has, Summer.

Cher: yeah it's true,
Q:if summer could hear you right now where the people that have Summer what what
would your message to specifically them
be?
DW: no i do
i know you love me <(is this is message to Summer? If it is it is , wow, not much) and i know she does
she i held her for the first 18 months
of her life,
she and i feel bad for her mother you know
but she only wanted me.
18 months to 22 years i you know, i don't
know the exact months whatever it was, <(is this his message to whomever has, Summer?)
but i'm so glad you know that. <(is he talking to, Summer or whomever has her)
Who's he talking to?
i work seven days a week and i was able
to afford for
candace to take her out every day
and enjoy stuff with her every day, i'm so happy for that and she got to take all those pictures,
and be with her mother all that time you know but she still loved me just as much
but she got to know her mother
and why she loved me like that i don't
know, i don't deserve that
i never deserved anything like that i've
never had anything like that in my
entire life. i've never had anybody love me like that.
but i love her so much i want her to know i
will always love her and i will be with her sooner or later,
in god's kingdom sooner or later, and
i'm just glad that canvas (Candace?) did spend such quality time with her like that and she
did and
canvas (Candace?) got to do a lot of stuff with her,
and take all those
videos and photographs and just
and uh i'm so happy about that, and uh
anyway um,
forever.
and i'll see her sooner or later. i just hope she ain't going through too
much i know it can't be good there's no
way it can be good.
in our area after looking around it's just horrible
i can't believe it some of the things i've seen even today is just blows my
mind and some of the stories i've heard,
um
i even got to go over to that girl's
house that that was tied to
mr light's bed and she is traumatized she is so traumatized she can't go she
can't even and i hope she don't get mad for me about saying this or whatever, but
she is,
she won't go nowhere without her husband,
or anything like that. i got to talk to her for a good while, and
but anyways i appreciate you all
um <(again who's he talking to?)
yeah i gotta charge my phone it's almost
gonna die so
thank you. End.

thank you john yep thanks
81:17
and watch the chat they'll send lots of
81:18
love
81:20
okay good night

In his first answer he avoids the question, making the question itself sensitive to him, (and rambles on before "Cher has to ask him again) why would that be?
Did he not hear her?
Does he know Summer can't hear him? if so, why?
Does he know she is not alive? If so, why?
As for his reply (and i can't make head nor tail if it is) to the second question he is all over the place.
Also, he sure is selling the fact the he loves her and she loves him, to much if you ask me. Lets say you didn't know Summers age, you may be forgiven in thinking (in large parts) he is talking about his wife/girlfriend.
Ps
How far is the church away from their house? Has anyone checked behind the church?

MOO
 
  • #166
I still think this whole thing is just weird. DW's reactions are just weird.
 
  • #167
Totally right about the covert aggressive behaviour. It isn't really that covert but.

Didn't you hear her sock it to him?
Look back a few pages Mountain_kat posted the link with it time stamped for us if you missed it in the show.

CW is not tolerating anything, she is mad as hell.
At him.

moo
Yes I heard it. She is over it.
It’s puzzling to me that he continues to throw shade her way.
 
  • #168
Anything like this happen in any other missing cases? These kind of interviews?

Letecia Stauch couldn’t for the life of her stop spinning stories on the web, after her on-camera interview that she though helped clear herself. she was plastering her rants all over and LE just let it happen as she was digging her own grave.

I honestly see 2020/quarantine developed a really interesting YouTube amateur reporting explosion… I’m reminded of all the trolls and intensity that came out in the West toddlers case. In that case however they refused to speak publicly which IMO was their saving grace.

Imhho.

ETA- yes I agree DW can’t seem to stop the digs into CBW it’s like he’s pouring salt into the wound and doesn’t even know it… he seems to only be able to see from his own perspective and it’s very troublesome to me.
 
  • #169
When listening to the Cher’s interview last night it seems DW purposely repeated his self-glorified statement about working so hard so CW could spend so much time making memories with her children when she entered the house.
IMO is covert aggressive behavior and troubling.
Why does he insist on continuing this narrative. Doesn’t he follow the line if thinking that CW must be grieving horribly since now she doesn’t have the company of her only daughter or her sons?
Yet he continues to make the statement as some sort or dig on CW.
CW most likely recently found out some troubling accusations against DW. Why does he continue to treat her as though SHE is in the doghouse???
I noticed that too. I listened to it myself to see the interviewer’s reactions and hear for myself CW’s reaction. It seems she walked in towards the end and that’s when he repeated everything and then she can be heard getting upset. It’s sad.
 
  • #170
I wonder if DW & CW ever search the woods around them? I'd be walking that woods all the time. Walking, walking, walking. Just in case...
 
  • #171
It's an interesting dynamic between the two that's for sure.

MOO
 
  • #172
You would think that DW would have a few nice things to say about his boys,,, even though they aren't missing the way
Summer is, they are still not with their parents so doesn't he kind of miss them? Wish they could come home? Just seems odd to me.
 
  • #173
I recall Amanda Berry and Gina DeJesus saying that the thing that gave them strength and hope to carry on was seeing their families on TV and that they knew they would never give up.

I believe it was Amanda that said that if her family wasn't going to give up, she wasn't either.

Those moments when the girls' families reached out and talked directly to them was what kept them alive and fighting to be free one day.

If Summer is alive, words of hope would go a long way. I know Summer is much younger but one never knows the capacity that a child has to persevere and stay strong.

MOO
 
  • #174
Totally right about the covert aggressive behaviour. It isn't really that covert but.

Didn't you hear her sock it to him?
Look back a few pages Mountain_kat posted the link with it time stamped for us if you missed it in the show.

CW is not tolerating anything, she is mad as hell.
At him.

moo

As I said from the beginning, CW is not the shrinking violet she has been made out to be. Afraid of DW ? Doesn't sound like it .
 
  • #175
MOO

I suspect that nothing is as it appears when it comes to this case.

MOO
 
  • #176


Cher:
Q: maybe summer's listening to
you right now maybe or someone who has
summer may be listening to you what
would you say?
DW: i'd like to say you know,
a lot of people say that i'm hiding
behind the church.
Cher: yeah
DW: they're right
i'm hiding behind the church.
you know god can cover a lot of sins
i've been i have been i've done a lot of
bad things in my life um,
you know and god can cover a lot of sins
and you know and that's my hope and prayer
you know i'm not saying that i'm a major criminal or anybody thing that
everybody's trying to make me out to be
because i'm not that person that
law enforcement and people like ernie,
or mcdonough is trying to make me out to be, because i'm not that person i have a
kind heart i always have.
that's why i got out of
that stuff because i do have a kind of heart.
i'm not willing to hurt anybody i've
never hurt anybody
um, but i know god does offer forgiveness and i hope you all do the same thing you know, that's what we all seek is forgiveness
of our sins, because nobody is sinless we all we all fall short.

Give or take, he uses appximately 193 words basically talking about himself. Most important he doesn't answer the question about what he would say if summer is listening. So she asked again. But notice the subtle shift nicluding whoever has, Summer.

Cher: yeah it's true,
Q:if summer could hear you right now where the people that have Summer what what
would your message to specifically them
be?
DW: no i do
i know you love me <(is this is message to Summer? If it is it is , wow, not much) and i know she does
she i held her for the first 18 months
of her life,
she and i feel bad for her mother you know
but she only wanted me.
18 months to 22 years i you know, i don't
know the exact months whatever it was, <(is this his message to whomever has, Summer?)
but i'm so glad you know that. <(is he talking to, Summer or whomever has her)
Who's he talking to?
i work seven days a week and i was able
to afford for
candace to take her out every day
and enjoy stuff with her every day, i'm so happy for that and she got to take all those pictures,
and be with her mother all that time you know but she still loved me just as much
but she got to know her mother
and why she loved me like that i don't
know, i don't deserve that
i never deserved anything like that i've
never had anything like that in my
entire life. i've never had anybody love me like that.
but i love her so much i want her to know i
will always love her and i will be with her sooner or later,
in god's kingdom sooner or later, and
i'm just glad that canvas (Candace?) did spend such quality time with her like that and she
did and
canvas (Candace?) got to do a lot of stuff with her,
and take all those
videos and photographs and just
and uh i'm so happy about that, and uh
anyway um,
forever.
and i'll see her sooner or later. i just hope she ain't going through too
much i know it can't be good there's no
way it can be good.
in our area after looking around it's just horrible
i can't believe it some of the things i've seen even today is just blows my
mind and some of the stories i've heard,
um
i even got to go over to that girl's
house that that was tied to
mr light's bed and she is traumatized she is so traumatized she can't go she
can't even and i hope she don't get mad for me about saying this or whatever, but
she is,
she won't go nowhere without her husband,
or anything like that. i got to talk to her for a good while, and
but anyways i appreciate you all
um <(again who's he talking to?)
yeah i gotta charge my phone it's almost
gonna die so
thank you. End.

thank you john yep thanks
81:17
and watch the chat they'll send lots of
81:18
love
81:20
okay good night

In his first answer he avoids the question, making the question itself sensitive to him, (and rambles on before "Cher has to ask him again) why would that be?
Did he not hear her?
Does he know Summer can't hear him? if so, why?
Does he know she is not alive? If so, why?
As for his reply (and i can't make head nor tail if it is) to the second question he is all over the place.
Also, he sure is selling the fact the he loves her and she loves him, to much if you ask me. Lets say you didn't know Summers age, you may be forgiven in thinking (in large parts) he is talking about his wife/girlfriend.
Ps
How far is the church away from their house? Has anyone checked behind the church?

MOO
bbm
Many here have noticed that , and not just from DW's latest interview.
Sad and very concerning, that it sounds that way.
There's also an element of disgust.
Imo.
 
  • #177
DW: i'd like to say you know,
a lot of people say that i'm hiding
behind the church.

Cher: yeah
DW: they're right
i'm hiding behind the church.
you know god can cover a lot of sins
i've been i have been i've done a lot of
bad things in my life um,
you know and god can cover a lot of sins
MOO

I just took this to mean that he's relying on God's help - not that he is literally hiding behind the church building. There's a verse in the book of Psalms that says "You (God) are a hiding place for me; You preserve me from trouble; You surround me with shouts of deliverance." (Psalm 32:7).

Maybe that's not what DW meant, but having grown up in a Christian home and working in a church office for 20 years, that was my first thought when he said it. IMO
 
  • #178
I just took this to mean that he's relying on God's help - not that he is literally hiding behind the church building. There's a verse in the book of Psalms that says "You (God) are a hiding place for me; You preserve me from trouble; You surround me with shouts of deliverance." (Psalm 32:7).

Maybe that's not what DW meant, but having grown up in a Christian home and working in a church office for 20 years, that was my first thought when he said it. IMO

I wasn't saying that's what he meant, it just sprung to mind when he mentioned the church. Sorry, should've been clearer.
 
  • #179
As I said from the beginning, CW is not the shrinking violet she has been made out to be. Afraid of DW ? Doesn't sound like it .

She did report him in october of last year. He was arrested on domestic violence charges. A day later she filed for an Order of Protection against him. Four days later she, during the hearing, asked for dismissal.
 
  • #180
I don't know because I'm quite dizzy with it all, it's like a vision of hell to an outsider.

I didn't even know this whole thing existed, I do things like tell myself to stay the hell away from it all.
It's so noisy and the people don't appear to be happy.
This is not my plan for my life.
I don't have a plan and 'crazy' is a matter of perspective, primarily.
It means nothing at all.
Where's the child?

What is an outsider? If you are referring to normal, then without normal people this would be worse. Some people don't like civilized society so they murder, abuse, take your stuff and make life hard. It's like a crow magnon or neanderthal man or women thinking in the 21st. No modern thought, all primitive law in their head. They don't have to be a druggie or homeless. They could dress well and have lots of money.

If the child was seen on Ben Hill Road, then logically the child was with someone. Yesterday, I asked, if someone saw her why didn't they help her. IMO the answer: they, the onlooker, didn't know that she was in danger. If she were in distress they still may not have stopped because "the adult" or older person was in control of her situation. People have been trained not to get involved. Heaven forbid you tell someone that their child could die or get hurt, or taken away if they don't stop what looks like abuse. The abuser will redirect it at the person trying to help and at full force too. When Police respond to a wellness check or 911 emergency call to a home and if abuse is a concern, they are literally in potential danger.

The GOOD news is that people who can stomach the 'crazy' jump in and avoid the weeds. They will walk into a noisy frenzied crowd and come thru the other side with the diamond, or the person everyone was looking for, and with no sweat. Exceptional mental focus capability. They take a nice vacation, enjoy their families in the down time then go back into the weeds. They have titles like, Dr., Nurse, Firemen, Teacher, Mommy, Soldier etc. Unfortunately, sometimes a bad apple is found in the mix. So, here we are asking, where is the kid?
 
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