AMBER ALERT TN - Summer Moon-Utah Wells, 5, Rogersville, 15 Jun 2021 #29

[Allabouttrial]

The 2 hours not allowed to be discussed came from these interviews.

A's interview with Unmasked.

Unmasked
"They picked up her (A's) son. So what did they do for two hours before they went to the swimming hole?"
A
"That, right now we can't really discuss because that was part of the interrogation."

H's interview with Chris. H recounts the story of the time he read CW's messages.

Chris
"Did you tell TBI all this?"
H
"Yeah I told them"
Chris
And they told you to keep it quiet on this piece?
H
They didn't tell me to really keep anything quiet. It's just that I'm not allowed to go on lives without her (points to A) internets, television.

 

[nyvictoria]

I wonder if he brought home candy or other treats for the boys.
Funny, he rarely talks about them, (yeah, I know about the gag order) but he didn't mention them much before they were removed from the home. In my family, if I had brought treats for one child and left the other out, they would have been angry, hurt and very resentful. It would cause many problems.

Yep it’s odd for sure.

 

[nyvictoria]

I don't know. This is the first I've heard that anybody involved said it took 90 minutes to get home. Does anybody know why she said it took twice as long to get home or what explanation she gave? I did not see this in the Rogersville News article.

IIRC it was 90 minutes from the swimming hole video.

 

[Bluebythec]

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I thought he meant whether DW was suspicious that H was there, or that CW was doing something wrong. It made me wonder if DW was normally a suspicious jealous husband. Some of the things that have been said make it sound like DW was always on the phone with CW. Was he checking up on her?

I mean, when we were both working, Mr. Carbuff and I would normally text with each other several times a day, just because we liked hearing from each other, so I don't automatically assume that's suspicious. But the way H just casually dropped that really made me wonder.

Just the fact that he said he was listening for anything suspicious seemed inappropriate to me!

 

[Bluebythec]

He went through her phone 2 days later when she showed up at her house with Grandma.

Didn't he say in the CM interview that he went through her phone in the car and found the deleted texts from her drug dealer?

 

[December]

I am mostly still chilling in the fence condo, but that is only because of heavy duty LE presence.

When did CH say it took 90 minutes to get home? As far as I know she has not been interviewed.

What was the two hour period H was not supposed to discuss? Before or after he was dropped off?

I thought it was said in several posts that CH said an hour and a half. I didn't really think about who she said this to. I think she talked to the Rogersville News because they have a quote from her. Something like, 'bring the baby home, she is a good baby' (close to that anyway).

I thought it was before, but close to the time he did get taken home. Remember, H was a little confused about how he got out of the car. So, it might be very close to the time he got home, but since he didn't talk about it, idk for sure.

I don't know. This is the first I've heard that anybody involved said it took 90 minutes to get home. Does anybody know why she said it took twice as long to get home or what explanation she gave? I did not see this in the Rogersville News article.

I will try to find it.

 

[Bluebythec]

When I listened to H’s interview the very first time, some things I felt to be the result of repetition bias. Explanations being stated, such as “dry drowning” for example were being discussed across social media platforms. Dry drowning is not something I feel H would come up with on his own. This made it difficult to discern what was truly coming from his recollection, and what was the result of repeated commentary he had been exposed to.

I agree, the example you provided above does not sound like typical behavior for a 15 year old during what would be “just another day”. At this point in the day there would be no reason to look for suspicious activities or to be hyper alert, with two exceptions:
-Someone asked you to be
-A past behavior was repeated

For example, listening in on the phone call really stood out to me. I wondered, if this was just an average day, why would this make sense to Hunter? Believe it or not I found a possibility:
We have heard that A and CW had a falling out and it was supposedly over a guy. If during that period of time and the period following, A asked H to see what he could find out about X while with CW, or CW asked H to see what he could find out about X while with A, and he acts on it, this establishes a surveillance mode of behavior when in the parties presence. It could be as simple as this mode of behavior naturally repeated itself.

Granted, we don’t know if he was asked to do this in the past. However, I am hopeful this might illustrate how something that might seem very atypical, can actually become the norm under certain circumstances.

I agree that a lot of what he said sounded more like things he'd overheard other people saying , rather than his own thoughts.

 

[LookinInn2]

I've known several heavy drinkers who over-imbibe and talk about themselves endlessly. I mean, to the point where I could set the phone down, go take a shower, and come back and they are STILL talking. Having said that, I'm not convinced that this is the ONLY reason Don talks and talks and talks. I think part of the reason he talks so much (and especially so much about himself ) is because 1. He thinks he a mastermind of manipulation (gee, where did he learn that ?), and 2. Because he knows he's in a world of trouble. Add alcohol to the mix and...ta da ! Meet Donald Wells.

MOO

Guys and Gals with no substance abuse issues talk about themselves for hours. That is a way of saying my feelings are the only thing that matters here. Poor Candus. Imagine trying to get clean, sober then she realizes Don isn't a traditional type. Who do you look to for strength and direction? You can go to an AA weekly, church, psychologist, Allie...in the end she's going home to Don. He seems like a nice guy, but you never know what he will accuse her of next and in what state of mind. Then flip that and it's Don going home to Candus. She is no walk in the park either.

She was not in Wisconsin when her sister went missing. I wonder what he demeanor was like.

 

[MsBetsy]

IIRC it was 90 minutes from the swimming hole video.

I don't think so. They went to the pharmacy, to pick up slushies, and shopping at the grocery store before dropping H off at 2:30. It must have been at least three hours later that they would have returned home.

 

[LookinInn2]

IMHO only, he formed a diamond (aryan circle) a la white supremacy.

I noticed it on Jun 15th. If you go to THE INTERVIEW ROOM, Chris McDonough interviewed Hunter. Hunter says he threw up some gang signs. I guess Chris wasn't in need of gang affiliations.

 

[December]

I don't think so. They went to the pharmacy, to pick up slushies, and shopping at the grocery store before dropping H off at 2:30. It must have been at least three hours later that they would have returned home.

Oh okay, i misunderstood what people meant. So, i am wrong.

I still think, with no timeline, somethings we think are facts really aren't. But, i have one theory SW wandered a little distance before encountering anyone. (Like out to the driveway) mooo

 

[MyBelle]

Try putting together a timeline just for the 3 boys. To hear CW tell it, they just sat at the kitchen table from 8 am until 3 pm.

Which is totally unbelievable, imo. There are red flags all over the timeline.

I'd like to know if the home air conditioner was on or off while those boys sat inside all day. Two window air conditioners are seen in the photos of their house. One comment CW made to CM was that she didn't like to use the truck air conditioner but she didn't say why. She put a track suit on Summer and then left her sitting in an un-airconditioned truck while she went shopping but she and H don't agree on how long. In the photo of Summer next to the milk jugs, she appears to me to be wearing glossy pink lipstick.

 

[LookinInn2]

IMHO only, he formed a diamond (aryan circle) a la white supremacy.

<modsnip> She is an adult, her choices are her right. She can believe and think whatever her heart desires.

 

[MsBetsy]

The 2 hours not allowed to be discussed came from these interviews.

A's interview with Unmasked.

Unmasked
"They picked up her (A's) son. So what did they do for two hours before they went to the swimming hole?"
A
"That, right now we can't really discuss because that was part of the interrogation."

H's interview with Chris. H recounts the story of the time he read CW's messages.

Chris
"Did you tell TBI all this?"
H
"Yeah I told them"
Chris
And they told you to keep it quiet on this piece?
H
They didn't tell me to really keep anything quiet. It's just that I'm not allowed to go on lives without her (points to A) internets, television.

I didn't realize any witnesses were interrogated. I thought they were just questioned by LE.

Either way, both CW and H described what happened and where they went before heading to the park, so I'm not sure what two hours were not supposed to be discussed. H claimed he was never told to keep quiet.

 

[Allabouttrial]

I didn't realize any witnesses were interrogated. I thought they were just questioned by LE.

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I think she meant to say investigation.

 

[MsBetsy]

Oh okay, i misunderstood what people meant. So, i am wrong.

I still think, with no timeline, somethings we think are facts really aren't. But, i have one theory SW wandered a little distance before encountering anyone. (Like out to the driveway) mooo

Well, Dave Rader did say that dogs followed Summer's scent to the end of the driveway and then lost it.

 

[December]

I didn't realize any witnesses were interrogated. I thought they were just questioned by LE.

Either way, both CW and H described what happened and where they went before heading to the park, so I'm not sure what two hours were not supposed to be discussed. H claimed he was never told to keep quiet.

Maybe he just didn't want to talk to CM about something. But, he includes that in his narrative of the day with CB. Maybe it's just some details that have been left out.

Everything just seems so lightly drawn with almost nothing confirmed by LE that if CB and H confessed that they'd bought a pet elephant and were keeping in the woods somewhere between her house and his, i would probably just think, "oh okay. This is why they hang out. They own an elephant together."

 

[Fidobell]

It is approved for discussion in the other thread:
Allegations of Historical SA in the Summer Wells case

Thank you !

 

[Gigiky]

I keep wondering why CW even thought to call H. Why are you calling a 15 year old to tell him about your mothers bad knee? And then be invited to come to As house. We have heard that CW and A had a falling out, but it seems fine that she goes to wait at As house and picks up As son to hang out with. A 15 year old boy no less. Was she just using H as some sort of alibi, to conveniently hear the call from DW that there was a man on the property that was looking to touch kids? Was there any concern for the 3 boys whom I'm thinking were home alone? Did DW tell CW she needed to get home quickly to ensure the other children were safe? Because it doesn't seem CW was at all concerned about the other 3 children. Nor do I believe any phone call was placed to LE to check out what DW said about someone being on the and that someone should get there immediately if one of the parents couldn't get there fast enough. SMH!

 

[TTF14]

I wonder if he brought home candy or other treats for the boys.
Funny, he rarely talks about them, (yeah, I know about the gag order) but he didn't mention them much before they were removed from the home. In my family, if I had brought treats for one child and left the other out, they would have been angry, hurt and very resentful. It would cause many problems.

Oh, don't worry. They understood, according to Don.