AMBER ALERT TN - Summer Moon-Utah Wells, 5, Rogersville, 15 Jun 2021 #29

[AgeofAquaruis]

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I found these stories. I don't know how to put any of this together or make sense of most of what CW/DW say, but Boston does get in the news for Mexican drug cartels.

Dangerous, deadly drugs made in Mexican jungle are shipped to Boston

Feds charge Milton man with heading major drug operation

Holyoke man allegedly with the CJNG drug cartel was arrested for fentanyl conspiracy | WWLP

Eight Charged with Conspiring to Distribute Fentanyl and Cocaine and Money Laundering Conspiracy

There is a Boston TN too. So they probly just threw that in as part of their gaslighting game. Either way they both need to take the high road,and focus more on working with LE, their boys who are in CPS custody, and finding Summer. Instead of gaslighting SA victims, and putting out misinformation. Like the Red/Maroon Toyota Tacoma beING found,with a Vin being traced to 101 Ben Hill Rd. A timeline would be great too. MOO

 

[flashy09]

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There is a Boston TN too. So they probly just threw that in as part of their gaslighting game. Either way they both need to take the high road,and focus more on working with LE, their boys who are in CPS custody, and finding Summer. Instead of gaslighting SA victims, and putting out misinformation. Like the Red/Maroon Toyota Tacoma beING found,with a Vin being traced to 101 Ben Hill Rd. A timeline would be great too. MOO

Ha, yes, a timeline and a lack of crazy stories would be a great start!
I just thought maybe Boston came up because DW still has friends in the business and Boston came to his mind when talking about cartels and feds. Who knows!

 

[CrimeDawg123]

Yes. Unless LE names them suspects they are considered victims. I don't doubt that LE is investigating thoroughly, especially with the FBI and CARD being involved. They have stated they will hold a PC when there is something significant to report. At this point we don't even know what evidence they have or what leads they may be following.

They have said that just about every theory and rumor on SM is false. Yet many of those theories are still being discussed over and over again. Everything is speculation at this point. We know very little about the facts in this case.

There is still a chance that Summer wandered off and got lost or injured, and her body is in those woods somewhere. It's hard to search thoroughly when SAR teams are not allowed on private property, and searchers apparently were not allowed to get out of their vehicles after the initial search. Imo

The only thing we know right now is that they are victims of their daughter missing. But are they "victims of a horrible crime" as you asked? Well, we just don't know at this point.

 

[LookinInn2]

I can only totally agree with this. My post wasn't meant to give an excuse or an explanation of the Wells's family behavior in particular. To be honest at this point I don't feel any sympathy whatsoever as they make this whole thing into a circus where the focus should be on Summer.

I feel however sympathy in general for those who have to deal with ambiguous lost, like many family members I have encountered here on WS. A lot of people tend to forget how terrible that is. I think it's good to post information about it, so we can take that in consideration while looking at cases.

"THE MONSTER IN THE SHADOWS" PEACK chnl. I haven't viewed the ugliest part of the documentary of episodes. I sense the explanations about will the family will get more moving with sadness. (edit with additional comment)

Many times the family is the problem. Let's see how far into the family Jeannie's story goes.

There is nothing worse than an adult who has a messed up head, messed up life and starts a

family of their own, only to continue the trend on a fresh pure child. Yes you are right,

extended family should receive sympathy unless they saw something, knew something and

turned away with a blind eye.

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Summer Moon's disappearance. That is an unfortunate reaction. I hope he gets

better.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Here's the thing that gets me. I am in stillbirth and baby loss support groups. I have never seen anyone pull a prank about anything even remotely connected to their children. There can be (self-directed) dark humor at times because the grief is real and life-long, but I have never seen anyone do anything so grotesque in the many years that I have been unfortunate enough to participate in these groups. So I have a very hard time accepting that pulling pranks to try to own people who are trying to help you find your missing child is normal grieving behavior in any universe. It's just not.

As much as I try to be victim friendly, I think we, collectively, need to find a better word than prank. Not directed at you but us as a group. This wasn't a funny April Fool's Day thing.

Fabrication?

JMO

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

As much as I try to be victim friendly, I think we, collectively, need to find a better word than prank. Not directed at you but us as a group. This wasn't a funny April Fool's Day thing.

Fabrication?

JMO

Gaslighting is Apt imo.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Gaslighting is Apt imo.

Unless CW lies habitually. Then it's fabrications IMO.

 

[Bit of hope]

I see a family with a lot of sadness from the past. They "survived" somehow the missing case of Rose Bly, there was SA, there was criminal behavior, drugs abuse, etc. When Summer went missing it ripped all the old wounds right open. In the times we live -here and now-......for the whole world to see.....(more or less on their own account) I think they all have to stop talking and take a spokesman/woman.

 

[dacjess]

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I’ve never said the parents hurt Summer. I don’t know what happened to Summer. But I don’t believe trying to normalize the behavior we’ve seen in the past week is in any way beneficial to anyone. Nobody is making DW be public and IMO he is not speaking publicly to keep Summer’s name out there because he almost never speaks about Summer beyond how much she loved him. I feel like some of the normalizing of his comments is dangerously close to trying to gaslight everyone involved and everyone observing. JMO.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

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I’ve never said the parents hurt Summer. I don’t know what happened to Summer. But I don’t believe trying to normalize the behavior we’ve seen in the past week is in any way beneficial to anyone. Nobody is making DW be public and IMO he is not speaking publicly to keep Summer’s name out there because he almost never speaks about Summer beyond how much she loved him. I feel like some of the normalizing of his comments is dangerously close to trying to gaslight everyone involved and everyone observing. JMO.

Where are you hearing people "normalizing" DW's comments? I haven't seen anything like that here but maybe I missed it. Thanks.

 

[Sundog]

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I’ve never said the parents hurt Summer. I don’t know what happened to Summer. But I don’t believe trying to normalize the behavior we’ve seen in the past week is in any way beneficial to anyone. Nobody is making DW be public and IMO he is not speaking publicly to keep Summer’s name out there because he almost never speaks about Summer beyond how much she loved him. I feel like some of the normalizing of his comments is dangerously close to trying to gaslight everyone involved and everyone observing. JMO.

It is not mutually exclusive to have compassion for both CW and DW and for J and M, and to hope for the ultimate (albeit longterm) healing of all parties involved, especially the children and -- hope beyond hope, for Summer.

 

[Sundog]

Unless CW lies habitually. Then it's fabrications IMO.

I think of that call by CW to M as possibly involving alcohol and/or drug induced hallucinations, and hear it as a cry for help from a desperate person, rather than a prank or gaslighting. It is too incoherent to be the latter, IMO.

 

[tara83]

The sad thing is that if a miracle occurred and adorable little Summer was found alive I think her best interests would be being kept away from her parents and the same for her brothers IMO.

 

[MsBetsy]

Here's the thing that gets me. I am in stillbirth and baby loss support groups. I have never seen anyone pull a prank about anything even remotely connected to their children. There can be (self-directed) dark humor at times because the grief is real and life-long, but I have never seen anyone do anything so grotesque in the many years that I have been unfortunate enough to participate in these groups. So I have a very hard time accepting that pulling pranks to try to own people who are trying to help you find your missing child is normal grieving behavior in any universe. It's just not.

Did Candus say she intended the phone call as a prank? She sounded completely incoherent and disjointed to me, as if she couldn't tell the difference between what was real and what was imagined.

 

[Bit of hope]

Where are you hearing people "normalizing" DW's comments? I haven't seen anything like that here but maybe I missed it. Thanks.

I agree.....Nobody that I noticed was "normalizing" an adult father (with a 5 year old daughter who is missing) saying a 5 year old (his stepsister) was soliciting for sex....Totally absurd. He is also saying Summer loved him.....any and I mean any child of that age would love their parents...no matter what....not knowing better a child would think, even if it is hurt, my daddy is the best.....reflection on your parent's behavior comes much later.......So this doesn't have any relevance or any special meaning....

 

[dacjess]

I agree.....Nobody that I noticed was "normalizing" an adult father (with a 5 year old daughter who is missing) saying a 5 year old (his stepsister) was soliciting for sex....Totally absurd. He is also saying Summer loved him.....any and I mean any child of that age would love their parents...no matter what....not knowing better a child would think, even if it is hurt, my daddy is the best.....reflection on your parent's behavior comes much later.......So this doesn't have any relevance or any special meaning....

This is true. I believe, however, that most parents would say “I loved her so much” versus saying “she loved me so much.” JMO.

 

[Sundog]

Did Candus say she intended the phone call as a prank? She sounded completely incoherent and disjointed to me, as if she couldn't tell the difference between what was real and what was imagined.

I, too, have been wondering who initially labeled the phone call as a "prank."
I don't recall it being described this way by CW or DW, perhaps it was labelled as such by the youtube people.

 

[MsBetsy]

Where are you hearing people "normalizing" DW's comments? I haven't seen anything like that here but maybe I missed it. Thanks.

I think it's possible that both sides of the family have a long history of dysfunction and possibly, abuse. From everything we've learned so far I wouldn't expect them to be "normal."

 

[tara83]

This is true. I believe, however, that most parents would say “I loved her so much” versus saying “she loved me so much.” JMO.

He seems the type to make everything about himself.Actually most of his remarks seem to be about what he is going through instead of poor Summer.

 

[tara83]

I, too, have been wondering who initially labeled the phone call as a "prank."
I don't recall it being described this way by CW or DW, perhaps it was labelled as such by the youtube people.

Terrible behavior no matter what it's called IMO.