AMBER ALERT TN - Summer Moon-Utah Wells, 5, Rogersville, 15 Jun 2021 #30

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  • #261
Especially if some shenanigans were going on.

So the video of her in the water had her in one outfit (swimsuit). Location of where she put her swimsuit is debatable. (H says at his house CB says before they left home)

Then we see her in the unresponsive video in a different outfit (jogging suit).

She changed into that outfit somewhere, but was it ever mentioned in the interviews?
Where was she changed?
Did anybody have to help her?
Was her swimsuit under the jogging suit? Did it go in the wash?
Did H change, or was he in wet swim trunks all day?

H's interview seems to skip over this time period and he jumps to going to Walgreens. omitting details of what happened during that time period of getting out of the water and getting too Walgreens.

It may not be so much as what the characters in this event say or do, but what they do not say or do that will help us with what happened that day.
I can't remember when it was said when Summer changed but I do remember some questioning that.

I guess if you don't believe what someone say's then you could also say what they don't say is irrelevant. JMO.
 
  • #262
Exact quotes and detailed descriptions of every move Summer made the day she disappeared would be nice for this discussion but I don't think it's ever going to happen. JMO.
In TIR Part two of her (CW's) interview ,I think she comes close to where one should really be. If you start with her saying the 'Boys don't wanna plant flowers but I know who will.." And listen to how she words or expressions she uses and information she is relaying .She does not really get there ,which is kinda interesting considering the manner she is using to relay the day in other parts of the interview . Such as how she quoted what Jose said in her TIR part 1 .. I might go retrieve Time stamps from those tomorrow .

Edited to add CW ,so people know who I am talking about.
 
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  • #263
In TIR Part two of her interview ,I think she comes close to where one should really be. If you start with her saying the 'Boys don't wanna plant flowers but I know who will.." And listen to how she words or expresses the information she is relaying .She does not really get there ,which is kinda interesting considering the manner she is using to relay the day in other parts of the interview . Such as how she quoted what Jose said in her TIR part 1 .. I might go retrieve Time stamps from those tomorrow .
Thanks. Sounds like you're talking about CW. Right?
 
  • #264
In TIR Part two of her interview ,I think she comes close to where one should really be. If you start with her saying the 'Boys don't wanna plant flowers but I know who will.." And listen to how she words or expresses the information she is relaying .She does not really get there ,which is kinda interesting considering the manner she is using to relay the day in other parts of the interview . Such as how she quoted what Jose said in her TIR part 1 .. I might go retrieve Time stamps from those tomorrow .

Interesting. I will check back. I'm interested in what you find out. I will review myself as well.

I wonder if there are times where people involved were very loquacious in describing what happened that day, but at other times had no words where one would expect them to be.
 
  • #265
Thanks. Sounds like you're talking about CW. Right?
Yes, I do. Probably should have put it in there somewhere. :D
 
  • #266
Are we allowed to share websleuths interviews?
It's Tricia so surely it's allowed.
Watching it now.
I know I said I'm done with YouTube's but since this is Websleuths...
Hey Tricia.
Chi

ETA if this gets deleted, then I'm officially confused.
 
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  • #267
I don't think H was wearing swim trunks. I think he was just wearing shorts. But, i think SW was the only one who fully went into the water. And, from what can be told from the video, it wasn't very deep on her.

One thing I do recall CB telling CM is that SW ran ahead to jump into the water. The swimming hole video shows SW being fairly energetic.

It is kind of odd that the rest of the day, that would have been very boring, it seems SW sat quietly. Which doesn't really seem like the energetic and outdoorsy SW or any five year old really.

Speculation: what if for some of the time SW was somewhere else? I don't know where or why they wouldn't say... Just seeing what everyone thinks...
 
  • #268
good question!

nothing?

so she is only reported as saying "yeah" when asked if she was ok at the swimming hole.

So, Nothing else was verbalized by Summer that day until roughly 5pm-6pm when the story of her disappearance is explained and all of a sudden she is verbal in sentences supposedly?

Do we know of any physical things Summer did besides swimming and twirling in the water, and unresponsive in that truck video/pic?
According to Robin, Summer was quiet but could talk plenty when she wanted to.

She particularly liked playing with the Paw Patrol characters. She also liked barbies, especially the ones with the bright colored hair and the big eyes. According to her parents, she also loved playing in the mud and dirt, and chasing her brothers as they rode their bikes through the trails in the woods. She reportedly loved being outside and especially liked her swing. From the video we saw, she also seemed to love dancing in the rain and splashing in puddles.

She appeared to be sound asleep in the video her grandma took, so she probably would not have responded to much, especially if she was a deep sleeper. She had been woken up early in the morning so she was probably tired.
 
  • #269
Summer Moon Utah Wells was reported missing in Hawkins County, Tennessee at approximately 6:30 p.m. on June 15, 2021. It has now been 3 months—92 days—and we are now on thread #30. What have we learned in that time, that LE has actually confirmed, other than she is still missing?

CM was Tricia’s guest on her Live YouTube last night. He made the comment that cases are solved by asking why, not how. So let’s ignore the noise of the circus this case has turned into, and ask:

Why is she missing?
 
  • #270
Especially since it’s alleged that they haven’t spoken for a year. I’m on the fence as far as theories go, but I do wonder if she got H to have an alibi for a time. MOO.

One of my theories is CW was waiting outside at hospital and “snapped” a pic of the hospital and posted to her “ story” on Snapchat and if H was still a “friend” on Snapchat, then he may have sent a quick message “hey, don’t wait there, wait over here…mom’s passed out she won’t care…” and the conversation started.
 
  • #271
I noticed that at the beginning but then realised I never relay a conversation as a direct quote unless I'm reading someone's messages out loud. So I don't think it's particularly strange for them not to direct quote Summer.
I totally agree with this. It's not natural in spoken language.
 
  • #272
I don't think H was wearing swim trunks. I think he was just wearing shorts. But, i think SW was the only one who fully went into the water. And, from what can be told from the video, it wasn't very deep on her.

One thing I do recall CB telling CM is that SW ran ahead to jump into the water. The swimming hole video shows SW being fairly energetic.

It is kind of odd that the rest of the day, that would have been very boring, it seems SW sat quietly. Which doesn't really seem like the energetic and outdoorsy SW or any five year old really.

Speculation: what if for some of the time SW was somewhere else? I don't know where or why they wouldn't say... Just seeing what everyone thinks...

was H allowed to wear his wet shorts in the vehicle?
 
  • #273
was H allowed to wear his wet shorts in the vehicle?
I doubt he got them wet. When he's seen splashing water at Summer, the water doesn't even go up to his knees.
 
  • #274
Somethings gotta give.:oops:

I just can't ..even....with Don.:eek:

If that pair are still alive next week I will be shocked.
That is the only thing that could shock me now.

moo
 
  • #275
Somethings gotta give.:oops:

I just can't ..even....with Don.:eek:

If that pair are still alive next week I will be shocked.
That is the only thing that could shock me now.

moo

Did something new happen?
 
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I reviewed H's and CB's video last night to get a better idea of where Summer was changed out of her swimsuit.

When CM asks H, he replies that they walk back to the truck and 15 min later were at Walgreens. (skipping over how/where clothes change)

When CM asks CB did she change Summer's clothes, CB laughs and says something like she wanted us to roll up windows she was cold "that's just summer" or something like that.

anyone else know of details where they discuss how summer got into the jogging suit?
 
  • #278
Did something new happen?

You tube shannanigans of bizarre and deplorable nature.

Very sad and disturbing watching this all unfold with no sign of Summer.

moo
 
  • #279
I reviewed H's and CB's video last night to get a better idea of where Summer was changed out of her swimsuit.

When CM asks H, he replies that they walk back to the truck and 15 min later were at Walgreens. (skipping over how/where clothes change)

When CM asks CB did she change Summer's clothes, CB laughs and says something like she wanted us to roll up windows she was cold "that's just summer" or something like that.

anyone else know of details where they discuss how summer got into the jogging suit?
Yes, she said that Summer told her she was cold so she changed her into the new clothes. I think she was changed when they got back to the truck after swimming, but it depends on the source. It's still not that clear to me but I don't think it's relevant to Summer going missing.

I think whatever happened occurred after they got home, and likely has nothing to do with when she changed or what she was wearing. IMO
 
  • #280
I keep going back to the video in the truck.

Understandable that after swimming Summer was cold.
Understandable that she got changed into jogging suit somewhere.

Not understandable to me that after hours of being in warm jogging suit in much warmer air than morning or afternoon air that a 5 year old (who CB said was hot at beginning of day so she put SW dry swimsuit on - when it was colder that morning) hasn't unzipped that thing and thrown the jacket off and taken off the pants. Or at a minimum rolled up the sleeves.

makes no sense to me.

CB said they were in 80 degree heat. With NO a/c on in the truck.

anybody else find the hood on SW jogging suit odd?
 
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