AMBER ALERT TN - Summer Moon-Utah Wells, 5, Rogersville, 15 Jun 2021 #32

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  • #121
I’m still reading into all the threads here, but do any of you who have also been following the historic disappearance of Summer’s aunt think that there could be a common link somewhere, maybe mafia? It must surely be relatively unusual for 2 members of a family to go missing.
RB is like SW in one way, there were easy suspects in her own home to distract from the case. Sometimes criminals pick up on this.

Idk what police think happened to RB who disappeared in 2009 in Wisconsin. I hope her case is solved. Maybe it will provide some answers in SW's case (or SW's case getting solved will help RB).

Idk if they're connected or not.
 
  • #122
I’m still reading into all the threads here, but do any of you who have also been following the historic disappearance of Summer’s aunt think that there could be a common link somewhere, maybe mafia? It must surely be relatively unusual for 2 members of a family to go missing.
Do we have a thread on Summers aunt? I’ve been curious of her disappearance. What are the odds? Where’s grandma?
 
  • #123
I could see CB walking SW back to the house if she (CB) wanted to speak to the boys. Maybe she did tell them to "watch Sissy" (that is just so cute), but maybe she had other things to tell them. These 'things' don't have to be relevant to the investigation, it could be anything. So, maybe that was her motive for walking SW basically 20'.

I agree it’s possible she had something to impart; but it’s a little suspicious she has never said ‘because I wanted to tell the boys such and such’ as a result of the investigation/interrogatories.

I also think it’s possible that they called her ‘Sissy’ as a general rule because that strikes me as a particularly Southern locution.

for my money, it seems more likely that CW has some vague generic ‘good mothers would never just let their children run hog wild’ running around her mind to guard against; when my mother, in fact, a ‘50s child with an authoritarian bent, would have felt perfectly safe telling me to go to the house while continuing her conversation down below, with one or two concomitant glances back in my direction to in fact confirm that I was obeying her.
 
  • #124
I also wonder, statistically, how many children are taken over drug debts? I really don't know. JMO

I’m guessing precious few, because kids are troublesome (‘Ransom of Red Chief’, anyone?).
 
  • #125
The grandmother did not “high-tail” out of TN or suddenly “take off.” She always had plans to return home, and I believe a relative needed her help following a surgery. There are many inconsistencies and unanswered questions but I really don’t see anything odd or nefarious in the grandmother leaving more than a month later. There’s only so much support one person can provide and, unfortunately, life does go on. The grandmother has her own health/affairs to attend to, and other family members to help. JMO.
Who pray tell leaves a daughter who’s child went missing while u were there? It’s your granddaughter for Christmas sake! That makes no sense to me unless Don told her to get out! Nothing more important than a missing child sorry!
Jmvoo
 
  • #126
Who pray tell leaves a daughter who’s child went missing while u were there? It’s your granddaughter for Christmas sake! That makes no sense to me unless Don told her to get out! Nothing more important than a missing child sorry!
Jmvoo
Agree you might help or plan to help but rush home asap because grandma Knows the HORROR of a missing daughter herself!
 
  • #127
Remember Shanniah Davis?
How about the Brittney woods family!
In Shaniya's case it's almost impossible to imagine a mother giving her child to a drug dealer over a couple hundred dollars! I remember her saying something like he was "only" supposed to have sex with her. SMDH over a truly horrifying case!

But in that case there was ongoing and extensive drug activity - cops had done a drug raid on Shaniya's mom's house just months earlier. Plus, Shaniya had spent most of her life living with her dad so the mother-daughter bond was quite weak.

IOW there were signs that we don't see in the Wells' house. Summer has two parents living together and both appear to be very bonded with their kids. IMO that makes it less likely for either, especially Don as her father, to hand off Summer to pay a drug debt, knowing that she was likely going to be harmed physically and/or sexually.

I especially don't see Don agreeing to give Summer to another man for any reason as IMO he's way too possessive of her.
 
  • #128
In Shaniya's case it's almost impossible to imagine a mother giving her child to a drug dealer over a couple hundred dollars! I remember her saying something like he was "only" supposed to have sex with her. SMDH over a truly horrifying case!

But in that case there was ongoing and extensive drug activity - cops had done a drug raid on Shaniya's mom's house just months earlier. Plus, Shaniya had spent most of her life living with her dad so the mother-daughter bond was quite weak.

IOW there were signs that we don't see in the Wells' house. Summer has two parents living together and both appear to be very bonded with their kids. IMO that makes it less likely for either, especially Don as her father, to hand off Summer to pay a drug debt, knowing that she was likely going to be harmed physically and/or sexually.

I especially don't see Don agreeing to give Summer to another man for any reason as IMO he's way too possessive of her.
I think mom has problems!
Sorry jmo.
I do not think Don had anything at all to do with this
 
  • #129
I agree it’s possible she had something to impart; but it’s a little suspicious she has never said ‘because I wanted to tell the boys such and such’ as a result of the investigation/interrogatories.

I also think it’s possible that they called her ‘Sissy’ as a general rule because that strikes me as a particularly Southern locution.

for my money, it seems more likely that CW has some vague generic ‘good mothers would never just let their children run hog wild’ running around her mind to guard against; when my mother, in fact, a ‘50s child with an authoritarian bent, would have felt perfectly safe telling me to go to the house while continuing her conversation down below, with one or two concomitant glances back in my direction to in fact confirm that I was obeying her.

IMO Candus isn't being forthcoming with everything that occurred that day and everything she knows. Maybe generic "good mother" guilt or maybe something more serious. IMO.
 
  • #130
I’d love to know if the boys actually saw Summer come in abs go downstairs!
All we know comes from Candus no one else!
 
  • #131
I don’t think they would have handed Summer off to anyone. Perhaps someone who knew them followed the truck home and just waited for the opportunity to grab her.

If they owed money I worry that Summer was sold to pay the debt.

I have no idea if that is a common occurrence or just a figment of my imagination. MOO
 
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"This is someone you know."

Said it all along, this is a "friend", or someone they thought was a friend. Predators groom parents too.

This is someone Summer would trust and happily follow to an awaiting car.

If Candus is holding anything back, it is what she was doing and for how long before she noticed Summer missing. What seemed like 2 minutes may have been 15. It is not like the family was on a tight schedule and always looking at a clock.

The three sons were there. They know if Summer went downstairs and how their mom called for her and looked for her. They have been interviewed by LE child psychologists.

The child was kidnapped. The parents didn't sell her. They didn't kill her either intentionally or by accident. They are presumed to be innocent victims until evidence proves otherwise. So far, there is not a scintilla of evidence to accuse either of having anything to do with Summer's disappearance.
 
  • #134
I don’t think they would have handed Summer off to anyone. Perhaps someone who knew them followed the truck home and just waited for the opportunity to grab her.

If they owed money I worry that Summer was sold to pay the debt.

I have no idea if that is a common occurrence or just a figment of my imagination. MOO

We're on the same wavelength here. JMO
 
  • #135
"This is someone you know."

Said it all along, this is a "friend", or someone they thought was a friend. Predators groom parents too.

This is someone Summer would trust and happily follow to an awaiting car.

If Candus is holding anything back, it is what she was doing and for how long before she noticed Summer missing. What seemed like 2 minutes may have been 15. It is not like the family was on a tight schedule and always looking at a clock.

The three sons were there. They know if Summer went downstairs and how their mom called for her and looked for her. They have been interviewed by LE child psychologists.

The child was kidnapped. The parents didn't sell her. They didn't kill her either intentionally or by accident. They are presumed to be innocent victims until evidence proves otherwise. So far, there is not a scintilla of evidence to accuse either of having anything to do with Summer's disappearance.
Nor is their any evidence that she was kidnapped.
 
  • #136
Maybe it’s as innocent As CBW stayed at moms longer than 2 minutes, watched tv? Talked? Helped somehow and she feels so guilty now that now that Summers gone and she blames herself and scared to come clean looking badly?? A real mystery about moms reactions. JMOO
 
  • #137
I’m still reading into all the threads here, but do any of you who have also been following the historic disappearance of Summer’s aunt think that there could be a common link somewhere, maybe mafia? It must surely be relatively unusual for 2 members of a family to go missing.
I actually know of a family that had 2 family members go missing years apart and it seems to be unrelated. I went to school with Chaz Richardson and his cousin, Melanie Matheny, went missing years earlier.
 
  • #138
They've referred to her as "Sissy" other times they've spoken of her. I just think it sounds cute. We need something about this case to relieve the absolute horror.
 
  • #139
I guess maybe people might not know, CB wasn't interviewed by the media until a couple of weeks after SW went missing. She didn't talk to CM on YT until after that, the boys had been taken by DCS by then.

This is when the planting flowers, washing hands, candy from Grandma, walk to house, two minutes, called for her, she's gone sequence of events comes from. Details of fixing the knee brace and washing so many clothes come along later.

CB hasn't done very many interviews. CH only gave the "bring the baby back" quote to the local paper. DW is the only one who has been interviewed a lot, but he wasn't there.
 
  • #140
I’m still reading into all the threads here, but do any of you who have also been following the historic disappearance of Summer’s aunt think that there could be a common link somewhere, maybe mafia? It must surely be relatively unusual for 2 members of a family to go missing.

I've seen nothing to suggest any connection. Rose Bly was a young mother in Wisconsin with documented marital woes who fabricated a meet-up with a cousin. Summer is a child who disappeared. It is quite unusual, but - as I've said before - having one tragedy doesn't immunize family members against others. Tragedies aren't "one and done," after all. If Rose was a young child who disappeared on CH's watch, I might see it differently. JMO.
 
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