To all who believe Caylee is ALIVE, explain this?? #3

[SleuthyGal]

If you believe there was a body in that trunk then there are only 2 choices:

1. It was Caylee's body in the trunk or

2. It was some random person's body in the trunk and how unfortunate that happened the SAME WEEK Caylee went missing!

 

[seagull65]

I thought we did have evidence of a dead body in the trunk, just because we can't touch the paper that says it, and we are going off of info released by LE doesn't make it any less true. or is it that you are just not accepting it as truth? why would they say there was, if there weren't?

(a) they haven't actually said that but they have implied it
(b) they can use false information if they suspect guilt, in order to encourage a confession

many other reasons stated before.

Again, the "just not accepting as truth" really needs to stop. Right, just because I don't agree with you I have some deficiency in understanding the truth... how many other ways can you say that?

 

[suspicious mind]

discussing theories is exactly what we're here for. Continually posting that those with a different viewpoint are "regurgitating Anthony speak" and that they are not interested in the truth, etc, etc, etc, and all the comments along these same lines repeatedly, only makes discussion impossible. If someone wanted a thread that is only for "guilties" to keep insulting the other side and slapping each other on the back, they need to make the title of the thread accurate. That's not what the title of this thread said.

If you are gonna quote me at least be accurate and within context. You can have a different viewpoint, this thread is for backing it up with facts.

 

[suspicious mind]

(a) they haven't actually said that but they have implied it
(b) they can use false information if they suspect guilt, in order to encourage a confession

many other reasons stated before.

Again, the "just not accepting as truth" really needs to stop. Right, just because I don't agree with you I have some deficiency in seeing the truth...

again with the quoting, please be accurate. It was a question, not an implication. maybe the problem is not the question, but rather your interpretation of it?

 

[Mom of Five]

I"m sorry Serenade I didn't mean to be rude. I thought you were being facetious.:waitasec:

 

[MnkeyBznes]

The chloroform got in the car AFTER it got back to the anthony's IMO and was used by someone other than Casey to try to clean the trunk. I remember George early on saying that he thought the trunk evidence would come back inconclusive.

 

[MaedchenX]

Well, I'll give you a couple of examples, apart from the fact the LE investigates and arrests people everyday that are entirely innocent, all while insisting that they are guilty as sin. Let's not even get into many hundreds of people who have been freed from death row because LE fabricated evidence.

Just wanted to point out that DNA has not been a factor in releasing that great a number of death row inmates. I am no proponent of the death penalty, but I think it best to deal with facts. Of 129 inmates released only 16 were set free based on DNA evidence. (http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/innocence-list-those-freed-death-row)

 

[SeriouslySearching]

as mentioned earlier in the thread in a couple of people's excellent posts, we don't know what evidence they have (a) because charges haven't been brought yet, only leaks so far, (b) because it is actually legal in some cases for law enforcement to use false information to try to encourage a confession. So it's not established yet if a body was ever in the trunk. That is one theory, though.

I would take LE's theory over Casey's theory because they do have the proof to back it up. Huge difference!

How many times have you seen LE release such information which was proven to be false in a high profile case such as this? I do not recall them ever doing so. The FBI and LE are not going to tank their eventual case to lie to the public and the media. We also have Yuri Melich UNDER OATH stating they smelled decomp in that trunk and had two dog hits. He is saying there WAS a body in that trunk in court.

 

[Mom of Five]

(a) they haven't actually said that but they have implied it
(b) they can use false information if they suspect guilt, in order to encourage a confession

many other reasons stated before.

Again, the "just not accepting as truth" really needs to stop. Right, just because I don't agree with you I have some deficiency in understanding the truth... how many other ways can you say that?

a. They have said it, there was no implication. There were direct quotes from the OCSO. The officers names were in the articles.
b. That's just silly though. If the body in fact wasn't ever in the trunk and LE said it was how would that encourage a confession?

I'll answer my own question..........It wouldn't.

 

[cheko1]

Yeah, me too. And, although that may be if they had some motive behind it, why would LE ............oh............wait.......GA was ex-LE........hmmmm

Wouldn't it be possible that if Casey never wanted to talk to OLE / she then demanded the FBI be called in & she'd talk...........but then never.
Her Dad is ex- LE even a homicide cop at that. He would have to know a good cop to call so she'd feel comfortable & could tell the story........

Yet she lost 31 days / partying, drinking, cooking for her boyfriend. By not trusting anyone...to say hey my kids was kidnapped. Not so much as trusting her own Dad....

She mooches off him & her mom. For 3 yrs they supported her & Caylee.At no point did she utter a word...makes me go hmmmmmmmm

 

[RR0004]

I am getting the idea that the basis of the Caylee is alive theory is that people think LE is flat out lying.

ITA and that REALLY bothers me.

 

[Seranade]

I know there are cases like that, but usually dna sets people free, and proves their innocence. how would they fabricate forensic evidence? what about kc's behavior (31 days etc.) how could they fabricate that?

I'm not saying they have fabricated evidence. Only a court could determine that. I am saying it is not a good idea in a democracy for citizens to trust every word authorities say. I think it is entirely possible that all of this pressure, and it is extreme you must admit, that LE is putting on Casey and her family in the form of some of these statements and leaks could have a strategic purpose, which leads me to...

If you believe there was a body in that trunk then there are only 2 choices:

1. It was Caylee's body in the trunk or

2. It was some random person's body in the trunk and how unfortunate that happened the SAME WEEK Caylee went missing!

Yes, what if this is exactly what happend? What if Casey is *involved* in an entirely different murder and LE knows this and is making sure the world thinks she is a baby killer so that she finally breaks and confesses to what really happened? Caylee could have been taken as insurance against her talking, or Casey could have sent her away to keep her safe. *IF* she is involved in an entirely different murder, it could explain her lack of cooperation, and it could explain why the family is not behaving the way people think they should.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

The chloroform got in the car AFTER it got back to the anthony's IMO and was used by someone other than Casey to try to clean the trunk. I remember George early on saying that he thought the trunk evidence would come back inconclusive.

And that is quite possible. I have always questioned why GA brought up "cleaning fluid" in the mix with his explanation of the pizza odor.

 

[Mom of Five]

as mentioned earlier in the thread in a couple of people's excellent posts, we don't know what evidence they have (a) because charges haven't been brought yet, only leaks so far, (b) because it is actually legal in some cases for law enforcement to use false information to try to encourage a confession. So it's not established yet if a body was ever in the trunk. That is one theory, though.

This is getting ridiculous, there is no plausible reason for LE to announce scientific evidence of a decomposing body in the trunk if there wasn't one there. If this is the case and there wasn't a body then I guess that's Casey's reason to high five Lee.

 

[seagull65]

a. They have said it, there was no implication. There were direct quotes from the OCSO. The officers names were in the articles.
b. That's just silly though. If the body in fact wasn't ever in the trunk and LE said it was how would that encourage a confession?

I'll answer my own question..........It wouldn't.

(a) In all the official statements there have been lots of qualifiers and limiting phrases such as "seems to suggest", "may have been", etc.

(b) they admitted during the first day of the investigation that they believed she knew more than she was telling, knew what happened, and that they believed Caylee was probably dead. Believing that, they may claim to have more concrete evidence than they actually do, to see if it will encourage her to confess. This is a legal practice.

But again, I know you don't want to hear any of that and I'm off to other threads. Have a good night everyone

 

[Seranade]

I"m sorry Serenade I didn't mean to be rude. I thought you were being facetious.:waitasec:

No problem. I'm just trying to think outside the box.

 

[cheko1]

The chloroform got in the car AFTER it got back to the anthony's IMO and was used by someone other than Casey to try to clean the trunk. I remember George early on saying that he thought the trunk evidence would come back inconclusive.

George was a homicide LE he should of known better than to tamper with evidence. If he did do that than he should report it to LE ASAP.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

No one answered my questions and I thought they were good ones! I asked several repeatedly. I have been trying to understand here so I could possibly develop a different point of view.

 

[MnkeyBznes]

Hmmm....LE is lying, Body Farm in TN is lying, FBI is lying.....or........Casey is lying (again/still)

 

[Seranade]

No one answered my questions and I thought they were good ones! I asked several repeatedly. I have been trying to understand here so I could possibly develop a different point of view.

Could you repeat the questions?:waitasec: