To all who believe Caylee is ALIVE, explain this?? #3

[seagull65]

If you are gonna quote me at least be accurate and within context. You can have a different viewpoint, this thread is for backing it up with facts.

go right on trying to make up new rules for other posters that don't concur with the title of the thread.... too funny

 

[Mom of Five]

At first CA and GA said that someone ELSE must've put a body in KCs trunk.

I can see that. Happens to me ALLLLL the time.

Oh me too!!!!!! I drive a Lincoln TC it has a huuuuuuuge trunk. Sometimes I can't even keep up with who's in my trunk.

 

[kwmred]

I keep repeating myself, but here goes:

Chloroform

Media reports have taken the leaks about chloroform and run with them. According to NG and the rest of the media the trunk had "significant amounts" of and the air was "saturated" with chloroform. The whole world now thinks Casey either used the chemical to drug Caylee or to murder her. But could that possibly be true?

Chloroform is an ingredient in many pesticides. If Casey had used it on Caylee, there would have been NO INSECT ACTIVITY in the trunk of her car at the tow yard. But according to the testimony of the tow yard employee, we know that there was. If the trunk was "saturated" at the time of testing, how much moreso must it have been at the tow yard?

FloridaYiaYia
Sep 11, 2008 | 3:51 PM

Forget about my theory of Caylee's grandparents using chloroform to clean out the trunk.

I spoke to a well know Board Certified Forensic Entomologist today and was very enlightened.

A human can die from "Chloroform" but "Flies" and "Larva" cannot. I hope no one takes offense to what I am writing because it may be delicate in nature to why we are here, for Caylee.

After speaking with this very helpful professional , I learned a few things and one in particular that surprised me.

Flies and larva (maggots) are not drawn to pizza because the toppings are already cooked. The most important thing I learned is, Flies dead or alive and Larva can be check for DNA. Not only their DNA, but what they were feeding off. I sure hope LE collected that pizza thrown in the dumpster. I hope you know what I am saying here because I do not want to get too graphic.

God bless you Caylee.

 

[seagull65]

If you are gonna quote me at least be accurate and within context. You can have a different viewpoint, this thread is for backing it up with facts.

I was completely accurate and within context. Your posts speak for themselves.

 

[LinasK]

This is getting ridiculous, there is no plausible reason for LE to announce scientific evidence of a decomposing body in the trunk if there wasn't one there.

Agreed! It's unbelievable how anyone could think otherwise.:doh:

 

[Mom of Five]

go right on trying to make up new rules for other posters that don't concur with the title of the thread.... too funny

Wait a minute, if I go on that other thread, (you know the one you spend so much time on", and I argue with you or write anything that doesn't sit well with anyone else, yoou'd be all over me.

 

[Mom of Five]

FloridaYiaYia
Sep 11, 2008 | 3:51 PM

Forget about my theory of Caylee's grandparents using chloroform to clean out the trunk.

I spoke to a well know Board Certified Forensic Entomologist today and was very enlightened.

A human can die from "Chloroform" but "Flies" and "Larva" cannot. I hope no one takes offense to what I am writing because it may be delicate in nature to why we are here, for Caylee.

After speaking with this very helpful professional , I learned a few things and one in particular that surprised me.

Flies and larva (maggots) are not drawn to pizza because the toppings are already cooked. The most important thing I learned is, Flies dead or alive and Larva can be check for DNA. Not only their DNA, but what they were feeding off. I sure hope LE collected that pizza thrown in the dumpster. I hope you know what I am saying here because I do not want to get too graphic.

God bless you Caylee.

Hey that's great info, thanks.

 

[cuppy199]

(a) they haven't actually said that but they have implied it
(b) they can use false information if they suspect guilt, in order to encourage a confession

many other reasons stated before.

Again, the "just not accepting as truth" really needs to stop. Right, just because I don't agree with you I have some deficiency in understanding the truth... how many other ways can you say that?

Yes they can leak false info. I suppsoe you got that for NG right? The thing is they can leak it but they wont confirm it. LE has confirm only certain ones.The ones they confirm are not lies but fact. The ones they dont confirm could be lies or then again could be the truth.As far as LE concerned right now there not gonna get anything out of Casey so I doubt they take the time to leak info which where lies for Casey to confess.JMO

 

[RR0004]

the purpose of the thread was for "people who believe Caylee could be alive" to answer said questions. Many excellent posts were made answering those questions. But you and a couple of others are now obstructing the thread by saying that no "alives" can provide any proof and are only "regurgitating Anthony speak". In your last post you again called my theory "Casey's". On and on with "the alives can't give any answers/proof", etc. This thread is now a total dead end and I've been insulted enough, have a good night parroting the same theory back and forth to each other and insulting the "alives" in every which way and slapping each other on the back. What a bore. On to real threads.... (p.s. in future when you want a thread that's only for those who share you view and want to just dead-end other people's theories for no reason, please start your own thread with a title that reflects that.)

Debate is healthy, Seagull. Please try not to take it personally. I'm willing to listen to everyone's point of view. I have a problem though when everything that has been "found" to date is called a lie...LE lies, the media lies, the evidence isn't really evidence. Yet, Miss C isn't lying. She's confused. Huh?!

 

[RR0004]

I'm not saying they have fabricated evidence. Only a court could determine that. I am saying it is not a good idea in a democracy for citizens to trust every word authorities say. I think it is entirely possible that all of this pressure, and it is extreme you must admit, that LE is putting on Casey and her family in the form of some of these statements and leaks could have a strategic purpose, which leads me to...



Yes, what if this is exactly what happend? What if Casey is *involved* in an entirely different murder and LE knows this and is making sure the world thinks she is a baby killer so that she finally breaks and confesses to what really happened? Caylee could have been taken as insurance against her talking, or Casey could have sent her away to keep her safe. *IF* she is involved in an entirely different murder, it could explain her lack of cooperation, and it could explain why the family is not behaving the way people think they should.

Nah, she looks just way too happy for that scenario. JMO

 

[gibby207]

FloridaYiaYia
Sep 11, 2008 | 3:51 PM

Forget about my theory of Caylee's grandparents using chloroform to clean out the trunk.

I spoke to a well know Board Certified Forensic Entomologist today and was very enlightened.

A human can die from "Chloroform" but "Flies" and "Larva" cannot. I hope no one takes offense to what I am writing because it may be delicate in nature to why we are here, for Caylee.

After speaking with this very helpful professional , I learned a few things and one in particular that surprised me.

Flies and larva (maggots) are not drawn to pizza because the toppings are already cooked. The most important thing I learned is, Flies dead or alive and Larva can be check for DNA. Not only their DNA, but what they were feeding off. I sure hope LE collected that pizza thrown in the dumpster. I hope you know what I am saying here because I do not want to get too graphic.

God bless you Caylee.

Yes, very consistent and professional. Not too graphic and TRUTHFUL! Kudos!

 

[RR0004]

Wait a minute, if I go on that other thread, (you know the one you spend so much time on", and I argue with you or write anything that doesn't sit well with anyone else, yoou'd be all over me.

...as well as the powers to be.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Yes, what if this is exactly what happend? What if Casey is *involved* in an entirely different murder and LE knows this and is making sure the world thinks she is a baby killer so that she finally breaks and confesses to what really happened? Caylee could have been taken as insurance against her talking, or Casey could have sent her away to keep her safe. *IF* she is involved in an entirely different murder, it could explain her lack of cooperation, and it could explain why the family is not behaving the way people think they should.

I am not always on the side of LE by the way they handle a lot of cases. I am very outspoken about it, too. I do not blindly follow along. I carefully watch what they do and how they do it. I learned to read between the lines. There are many cases which have gone unsolved because of the way they were handled in the beginning such as Jennifer Kesse's (which by the way was handled by Orlando PD). However, I am not seeing incompetence in this case at all. I think they have handled this one very well so far with what they have had to work with...which obviously hasn't been much. They are doing their jobs tho...as the 400 pages has proven.

IF Casey was involved in another murder and this child was taken as "insurance" she would not talk...why would anyone believe that they would not have already killed this child?! No one would keep a child alive after they murder someone else because they do not want to get tied up in a kidnapping, too. There is no reason to ever think that Caylee is currently being kept "safe" if people took her. Makes no sense. The only way to insure her safety would be to talk and let the only people ABLE to go get her back do so...wouldn't it?

 

[Seranade]

FloridaYiaYia
Sep 11, 2008 | 3:51 PM

Forget about my theory of Caylee's grandparents using chloroform to clean out the trunk.

I spoke to a well know Board Certified Forensic Entomologist today and was very enlightened.

A human can die from "Chloroform" but "Flies" and "Larva" cannot. I hope no one takes offense to what I am writing because it may be delicate in nature to why we are here, for Caylee.

After speaking with this very helpful professional , I learned a few things and one in particular that surprised me.

Flies and larva (maggots) are not drawn to pizza because the toppings are already cooked. The most important thing I learned is, Flies dead or alive and Larva can be check for DNA. Not only their DNA, but what they were feeding off. I sure hope LE collected that pizza thrown in the dumpster. I hope you know what I am saying here because I do not want to get too graphic.

God bless you Caylee.

I'm not going to argue whether flies and larva are drawn to pizza because I don't know *for sure*. I do know that flies have gotten into my garbage when I knew full well I had not put anything raw in there. I've also seen them swarm around and try to get all over our fully cooked BBQ. If left out for them to continue to feed off of I'm pretty sure maggots would eventually form. However, I provided several links to facts about chloroform including the fact that it is used in pesticides. An anonymous internet poster who may or may not have spoken with an unnamed Board Certified Forensic Entomologist just doesn't have the same, shall we say, credibility?

 

[MnkeyBznes]

I'm not going to argue whether flies and larva are drawn to pizza because I don't know *for sure*. I do know that flies have gotten into my garbage when I knew full well I had not put anything raw in there. I've also seen them swarm around and try to get all over our fully cooked BBQ. If left out for them to continue to feed off of I'm pretty sure maggots would eventually form. However, I provided several links to facts about chloroform including the fact that it is used in pesticides. An anonymous internet poster who may or may not have spoken with an unnamed Board Certified Forensic Entomologist just doesn't have the same, shall we say, credibility?

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching
Why not allow LE to officially rule everyone out? Why not take lie detector tests? (They have not ruled anyone out officially to my knowledge.)

Why not put the tips out there to the public if it is believed that LE isn't following up on them? Why not take out full page ads in the papers in those places? Why not put out sketches of the people? Descriptions? Vehicle plate numbers? REAL NAMES? Why not get the information out to the people who live in those places? Who is stopping you from going there to track her down?

If the people who say that Caylee is alive can explain this to me, please do. I would love to know the answers to these questions.

 

[LinasK]

FloridaYiaYia
Sep 11, 2008 | 3:51 PM


I spoke to a well know Board Certified Forensic Entomologist today and was very enlightened.

A human can die from "Chloroform" but "Flies" and "Larva" cannot.

After speaking with this very helpful professional , I learned a few things and one in particular that surprised me.

Flies and larva (maggots) are not drawn to pizza because the toppings are already cooked. The most important thing I learned is, Flies dead or alive and Larva can be check for DNA. Not only their DNA, but what they were feeding off. I sure hope LE collected that pizza thrown in the dumpster.

Good information, because someone asked this question and thought it skewed the timeline because they thought the chloroform would kill the flies and larva, now we know it didn't have to!

 

[Mom of Five]

I'm not going to argue whether flies and larva are drawn to pizza because I don't know *for sure*. I do know that flies have gotten into my garbage when I knew full well I had not put anything raw in there. I've also seen them swarm around and try to get all over our fully cooked BBQ. If left out for them to continue to feed off of I'm pretty sure maggots would eventually form. However, I provided several links to facts about chloroform including the fact that it is used in pesticides. An anonymous internet poster who may or may not have spoken with an unnamed Board Certified Forensic Entomologist just doesn't have the same, shall we say, credibility?

Because just like LE this person has a motive to lie, maybe to coerce a confession?

 

[RR0004]

Casey refused to talk to Orlando LE....she never trusted them.. According to Cindy if OLE brought in the FBI Casey would tell them everything. So the good cops at Orlando called in the FBI....she still hasn't talked or said anything about where Caylee is.

If it was my kid gone I'd be begging to talk to anyone at LE. I'd not demand this & that then refuse to talk when the FBI arrived unless I was hiding something.

I guess CA changed her mind when they asked the rest of the family to take a lie detector test.

 

[Lovejac]

Agreed! It's unbelievable how anyone could think otherwise.:doh:

Linask...what is this about the body farm coming to Fla, that youy posted on the kidfinders thread?