To all who believe Caylee is ALIVE, explain this?

[seagull65]

I can't wrap my mind around any of this. A child is missing, confused, in shock, giving cryptic answers why???? Who better to have on your side than the FBI? You are right that Casey is afraid to tell who it really is, because it is her. She is playing cat and mouse with everyone.

She could be afraid of a different crime being discovered that she was involved in, although she knows Caylee is alive.
Someone could have taken Caylee because she witnessed something, or to silence Casey because she did.
We don't know why.
Or, Casey could simply have a thinking disorder, whether from trauma/shock, or a physical cause. Why would anyone say I work in a place, when she hadn't worked there for more than a year, knowing they were driving straight there. Some people think if something traumatic has happened to Casey/Caylee, Casey might be unable to let herself remember anything beyond this safe time when she used to drop Caylee off safely at a babysitter, like she's blacking out a certain span of time. I still am not sure about any of these theories. But enough doubt remains for me to believe that Caylee could very well be alive and hope that she is.

 

[Brini]

My interpretation of the evidence so far:

a. Caylee is dead
b. Casey disposed of her body
c. but...did Casey murder her? That is questionable still.

Yes. I still think it might have been an accident with a cover-up.

 

[Talison]

And honestly it scares me that so many people are just accepting what they are hearing as facts. It honestly explains why the country is in the mess it is. Just be objective, dont take every "word" as fact, truth or evidence.

We're not talking about media spin here. We're talking about a statement directly from a lead investigator on the case, captured on video.

 

[rozey]

Listen to the whole video.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/M....jsp?contentId=7394244&version=1&locale=EN-US

Ok...listened to it...Again I ask 'Where is the proof that anything the A's have said is true'? Discount all leaks by LE, discount all media theories, but give actual proof that anything about Casey's story has been proven true. If you think Caylee is alive show me the evidence you are using to support that theory. Plz don't ask me to show you evidence that Caylee is deceased as an answer to this question, as we all know what I would respond with. I would really like to be shown hard evidence to support your theory. No feelings or I think this...if you won't accept our theories without reading the test results personnaly than plz don't expect me to believe your theory without the same consideration. JMO

 

[seagull65]

Actually, in the time since Caylee has been missing, dozens and dozens of other children have been purposely killed or died through blatant acts of neglect at the hands of their caretakers. While the care and concern for Caylee is justified, each of these children were just as valuable as she is and deserve the same outpouring of outrage over their deaths. If posters want to actually DO something significant to honor Caylee, then please volunteer your time or give a donation to a local organization that devotes itself to protecting and helping such young victims.

Great post, raeann.

 

[secreteye]

Now understand this first, I do not believe Caylee is alive....

With that said...

We have just as much proof that she is alive as we do dead. Why do I say that....
Well every piece of information about the evidence in this case has been leaked by "LE".
It's just as reasonable to think that LE leaked this information to scare KC into talking. LE lies to people all day long trying to get information. How many times has a defendent admitted to a crime they didnt commit, because LE lied? Quit a few.

I really believe if LE honestly had the solid evidence they leaked KC would be in jail on murder charges and not these petty crimes that would be thrown out with a murder charge. That is something not sitting right with me about this.

Until the evidence is released in it's entirety everything is speculation and opinion. (OMG I scared myself, I sound like JB). But really, I just dont think it's smart to believe everything we are hearing, especially since the media is notorious for embelishing the facts.

My gutt tells me that KC killed Caylee as revenge to her parents. My gutt tells me her parents know. That is the same gutt that told me that the Ramsey's were not and are not guilty and the same gutt that told me that Susan Smith was hiding something behind her crocidile tears.

I agree. And I do want to say that I think that Caylee is alive just like Casey and Cindy have said, hid out with someone who loves her and is protecting her, and with someone that she means more to than any amount of money. I believe that it was someone else's body in the trunk of that car, just like George said. The reason that I believe this is because I believe her family. I also believe that the reason JB is trying to get more control over the things that are being tested is because he knows this and not only is he going to have to defend Casey with it, there are going to be alot more questions to answer with it....My opinion.

 

[Brini]

Could Casey be comfortable because she knows the child is alive and that she can produce her at anytime that she decides to call off this charade? No need to worry about a murder rap if you have the info that can prove it is not one. Meanwhile, money is pouring in for Casey and the parents arent mad at her anymore, and look at all the attn. Just a thought to consider if we want to consider all angles.

If she knows Caylee is alive, and has sworn, under oath, that she doesn't know where Caylee is, she'll be in bog trouble, anyway.

And, where did the forensic evidence of a dead body with Caylee's DNA (the hair) come from?

 

[concentric]

Yes. I still think it might have been an accident with a cover-up.

And Brini,

a. could be accidential with c/o
b. could be at the hands of someone else

because we do not yet have any evidence to suggest that Casey murdered Caylee, right?

 

[lin]

resp. snipped....

That & I just can't believe that Casey would sit her 'party butt' in jail (for years), rather than disclose WHO these "trusted" folks are that she simply gave her child to.

Excellent point. The bus driver or assistant may not know of Caylee, but I'm betting someone they know does. A neighbor, a friend, a relative. Someone in a store where whomever allegedly has a live Caylee shops; or where whomever banks, etc. A pediatrician's office. No one moves through life completely unseen.

All that being said, your point best explains why Casey hasn't admitted this. Why face criminal charges, humiliation of herself and her family, not to mention all of the expenses, if she could stop all of it? One cannot profit from their crimes in Florida, so producing a live Caylee would allow Casey to likely receive millions from book and movie deals, allowing her to live a life of luxury, provide well for Caylee, or hire the best attorneys in the state to prevent George and Cindy from getting custody of her.

There is nothing to be gained by not producing a live Caylee and everything to lose by admitting she is dead or even continuing to allow most to believe so.

 

[Brini]

I've read the pages, too. I know her mother seemed to have that opinion at least during those couple of days when she (the mother) called all of Casey's friends to tell them not to talk to her, not to believe anything she was saying, etc. I don't know what CA's reasons were, she was probably very upset. I still have not heard if Casey has ever had comprehensive medical testing to rule out other medical problem, cognitive/brain disorder, seizure disorder (reportedly she did have at least one seizure and was taken to the hospital by JG), drug addiction or other problem that might explain more about her behavior. I stand by my statement that thorough medical testing would have to be performed to rule out other health problem.

Regarding the stealing, I agree with the posters on this thread that said there could be a lot of reasons for that, i.e., basically she was broke. She had left her parents' home with virtually no preparation for the work world, to make enough to support herself and her daughter. She wanted to be able to socialize and have fun like the other young people she was running around with. She at one time asked for money from a friend to pay "rent" to her parents. So, this could be at the root of the stealing.

I knew someone once, a very outstanding student and super nice person, who had a nervous breakdown during her first year of college due to the stress of a heavy school schedule and personal stressors, and went on a stealing spree. Incidentally she had always been known to tell very small harmless white lies, everyone who knew her knew this, I honestly don't think she could help this, I think she wanted to please everyone. She would never harm anyone, she's a very kind person. Anyway, it all finally crashed and she was charged with grand larceny. Luckily she was able to return much of what had been stolen, she got the help she needed and recovered fully. She never had anything like that again. 20 years later she's a professional and terrific mother of 3.

Caylee's not on a stealing spree. She's been lyaing and stealing for a long time. It's an ongoing criminal lifestyle.

 

[seagull65]

Ok...listened to it...Again I ask 'Where is the proof that anything the A's have said is true'? Discount all leaks by LE, discount all media theories, but give actual proof that anything about Casey's story has been proven true. If you think Caylee is alive show me the evidence you are using to support that theory. Plz don't ask me to show you evidence that Caylee is deceased as an answer to this question, as we all know what I would respond with. I would really like to be shown hard evidence to support your theory. No feelings or I think this...if you won't accept our theories without reading the test results personnaly than plz don't expect me to believe your theory without the same consideration. JMO

Why do people have to show you hard evidence that Caylee is alive? No proof has been given in court yet that Caylee is not alive, that's reason enough to hope that she is alive. There are theories explaining how she could possibly be alive, and theories suggesting that she is dead. That's all we have until all so-called evidence is put out there in court.

 

[Brini]

unless whoever has Caylee is holding her to silence Casey about another crime, that's one of the other theories. Who knows at this point? To many unknowns by far for me to reach a conclusion yet. I remain hopeful Caylee is alive, there is no need to jump to the conclusion that she is dead or that Casey is a murderer.

So whose is the dead body she was carrying around in her car?

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

I believe that Caylee is deceased with that being said. What could it hurt if for a few days all the WS'rs took the leads from the "believers" and tried to connect some dots. It may not lead to Caylee alive but it may lead to Caylee. I for one, am tired of the KC & A's Show. There are smart, my gawd ya'll are smart, posters on here and I have read some of the stuff they have and I don't know how to decipher it, but some of ya'll could. If it leads to a dead end then it's just a dead end.

 

[Brini]

If it were a drug related problem causing Casey to lie and act the way she is, then half of America in that age range would be out losing their children and lying about it. I'm not buying that.

And, half of America would be driving around with decomposed boies in their car.

In many states, killing someone because you are drunk or loaded isn't a defense. I don't know about FL, of course.

Also, if Casey was addicted to drugs, she would have gone through a very uncomfortable detox, in prison. She would have needed medical care.

 

[dcorrigano]

We're not talking about media spin here. We're talking about a statement directly from a lead investigator on the case, captured on video.

I have to resond with SO WHAT? The lead investigator said??? Let me give you a direct quote on National TV... "I did not have sexual relations with that woman". Ring a bell? How about. "Read my lips, no new taxes". Both on National TV, both said by "important" people, both proven lies.


The proof as it stands right this minute only proves one thing...

Caylee is missing either alive or dead.

 

[seagull65]

Caylee's not on a stealing spree. She's been lyaing and stealing for a long time. It's an ongoing criminal lifestyle.

that statement reminds me of Nancy Grace continually saying that "Casey has been mooching off of her parents her whole life"......she's only 23 now. Was she mooching when she was a baby, a grade schooler, a junior high schooler, a high schooler, when she was a young mother watching her baby and raising her baby with her parents when she was 20? She had gotten off her educational track due to the baby, not pursued college. Her mom worked, her dad worked, who was going to watch the baby? Did they help her make arrangements for that and say, continue with college or pursue a career?
What constitutes an ongoing criminal lifestyle? A downward spiral since she was 21 or 22 or so?

As if Nancy Grace won't be laying out the big money putting her own children through the best schools at that age!

 

[elitenls]

So whose is the dead body she was carrying around in her car?

LOL, who knows, you can't prove there was one in the first place.

Again, there's no evidence, just someone saying they heard something. I can say I work for LE and I'm close to the investigation, does that make my word "evidence"? Nope. Just words.

There is no physical evidence one way or another until there is -- people, seriously, figure it out. Nothing has been submitted to court -- there is NOTHING BUT SPECULATION thus far in this case.

I don't think she's alive either, but that's mainly due to the fact that I've read and heard everything that has been released about this case. Doesn't make me right -- just makes me well educated in a media frenzy.

 

[Fandy]

But she wasn't totally confused and in shock for the past two years while she lied to her friends and family about working at Universal -- which is one of the lies she also told police.

Was she in shock when she told Tony her car had broken down and that her father was going to come fix it -- though really it had run out of gas and had traces of human decomposition in it, and she wouldn't be in contact with her father for 19 more days?

Actually, her story did make sense. Before she went to work, she left her daughter at an apartment with a long-time nanny who kidnapped the child. Except work=lie, apartment=lie, nanny=lie, kidnap=lie.

thank you, I couldn't have said this better myself.

 

[dcorrigano]

LOL, who knows, you can't prove there was one in the first place.

Again, there's no evidence, just someone saying they heard something. I can say I work for LE and I'm close to the investigation, does that make my word "evidence"? Nope. Just words.

There is no physical evidence one way or another until there is -- people, seriously, figure it out. Nothing has been submitted to court -- there is NOTHING BUT SPECULATION thus far in this case.

I don't think she's alive either, but that's mainly due to the fact that I've read and heard everything that has been released about this case. Doesn't make me right -- just makes me well educated in a media frenzy.

AMEN:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

 

[seagull65]

So whose is the dead body she was carrying around in her car?

Once again, Brini, it's very debatable whether there was ever any body in the car. This has not been proved yet. There are only "leaks" and lots of media spin claiming that this is the case. There is no need to jump to that conclusion yet. I won't restate all the discussion on the topic.