Toddler's Mother/Peaches/Jane Doe #3

[scotiansleuth]

If I understand the science correctly a body that has been frozen and thawed would be detectable in the forensics lab. The freezing expands blood cells and ruptures them when they are thawed the cells begin to leak.

 

[DQN]

Originally Posted by elephant29
Ok, so I'm new here but I've been keeping up with the latest posts. I have been looking at missing girls from states close to New York, that went missing after 1990. Here are two links of possible girls that could've been peaches. Forgive me if they had been mentioned before

http://missingpersonsdata.com/usa/Ne...e-details/6370


http://missingpersonsdata.com/usa/Ne...e-details/6019

Hi there. Both too young, and peaches also had a child probably daughter due to jewellery found. Keep sleuthing though. Good fi ds.

the second one is not too young, Peaches was identified as being between 16 and 30, and could of had her own child by 17,

 

[DQN]

EVERYONE PLEASE GO AND LIKE PEACH'S FACEBOOK PAGE

https://www.facebook.com/Help-Identify-Peachs-1342086052479089/?ref=bookmarks

jacobd83 requested for anyone on FB to like this page and share it. Thank you, Jacobd83 continue to repost this link every week or every other week.

 

[Hotpotato]

I don't think I've seen her on here before but I could be wrong.

http://www.nampn.org/cases/dennis_kathleen.html

 

[Boomeroreo]

I'm surprised they didn't do any Dna on her

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[deedee21]

I don't think I've seen her on here before but I could be wrong.

http://www.nampn.org/cases/dennis_kathleen.html

Her DNA was submitted. But it was never entered. Thats a problem.

 

[Boomeroreo]

Her DNA was submitted. But it was never entered. Thats a problem.

What? Well is there someone who can do another one and enter it?

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[Tinkerella]

If I understand the science correctly a body that has been frozen and thawed would be detectable in the forensics lab. The freezing expands blood cells and ruptures them when they are thawed the cells begin to leak.

Yep, that's correct!
Also, when a body is frozen and then thawed, it won't bring it back to the exact condition it was in before it was thawed. Decomp will be highly accelerated. You can tell microscopically if a body had been frozen but trying to find time of death is going to be really hard if we're talking about a frozen and thawed body. You can give an estimate, but narrowing it down would be where the trouble lies. The manner in which it is thawed also matters. If you do a rapid thaw (heavy heat) it's going to make everything speed up and the cells will rupture faster and on a more wide spread level. Letting the body thaw slowly over time at a maintained room temp would slow it down some, but it will still be accelerated.

I hope that makes sense. If not, let me know and I can try to explain it better I know I sometimes can lack detail or go too far into detail.

 

[Hotpotato]

Her DNA was submitted. But it was never entered. Thats a problem.

Very weird. Where do you find that info at? I saw her fingerprints were entered. i wonder
Who you could contact to find out more

 

[scotiansleuth]

Very weird. Where do you find that info at? I saw her fingerprints were entered. i wonder
Who you could contact to find out more

According to NAMUS for Kathleen Dennis

Status:

[TD="class: view_field"]Sample submitted - Tests complete[/TD]

 

[Hotpotato]

According to NAMUS for Kathleen Dennis

Status:

[TD="class: view_field"]Sample submitted - Tests complete[/TD]

I saw that and assumed all was good but deedee said it was never entered?

 

[scotiansleuth]

Her DNA was submitted. But it was never entered. Thats a problem.

Where did you find the info that it was never entered?

 

[The Nomad]

Originally Posted by elephant29
Ok, so I'm new here but I've been keeping up with the latest posts. I have been looking at missing girls from states close to New York, that went missing after 1990. Here are two links of possible girls that could've been peaches. Forgive me if they had been mentioned before

http://missingpersonsdata.com/usa/Ne...e-details/6370


http://missingpersonsdata.com/usa/Ne...e-details/6019






the second one is not too young, Peaches was identified as being between 16 and 30, and could of had her own child by 17,

True. Second one would still be a low probability for me though. She'd have had to be pregnant around 14 to evwn have the child at the lower end of the age range (assuming they died on the same day).

 

[deedee21]

According to NAMUS for Kathleen Dennis

Status:

[TD="class: view_field"]Sample submitted - Tests complete[/TD]

It has to read entered. You will notice that some cases read entered or submitted. It can be deceiving.

 

[deedee21]

Was her DNA entered into CODIS? No way to know. It makes it difficult for NAMUS to include or exclude possible matches.

 

[Hotpotato]

It has to read entered. You will notice that some cases read entered or submitted. It can be deceiving.

So for both peaches and the woman Lora Stubbs who has been ruled out as being peaches they both say "samples submitted tests complete" I assumed they ruled Stubbs out via DNA, so wouldn't it have to have be entered?

 

[DQN]

Was her DNA entered into CODIS? No way to know. It makes it difficult for NAMUS to include or exclude possible matches.

DNA sample submitted (by family: hair, tooth brush and anything to pull DNA from). Tested, determined and then entered in the NDIS (part of CODIS), The National DNA Index System, which among other things contains the DNA of missing and unidentified human remains. I also found Namus may not mention that DNA was submitted, and Doe Network will have a record stating that it was.

 

[DQN]

So for both peaches and the woman Lora Stubbs who has been ruled out as being peaches they both say "samples submitted tests complete" I assumed they ruled Stubbs out via DNA, so wouldn't it have to have be entered?

The fact that Lora Stubbs was ruled out as Peaches is listed on the Peaches Namus Case page at the bottom, (ruled out officially through DNA).
https://www.identifyus.org/en/cases/11652

 

[Xara]

The fact that Lora Stubbs was ruled out as Peaches is listed on the Peaches Namus Case page at the bottom, (ruled out officially through DNA).
https://www.identifyus.org/en/cases/11652

Does anyone else get a message that says attackers might be trying to steal my information when you click on this link?

 

[WesternArtist]

Does anyone else get a message that says attackers might be trying to steal my information when you click on this link?

I was getting that with the whole NamUs site last week.