Toddler's Mother/Peaches/Jane Doe #3

[Armchair-reader]

This is a screen shot from the posted clip.

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I stand corrected. What is your take on his memory? I do believe he has the best intentions but he seems so iffy and foggy

 

[LisaBC]

I feel so dumb. Idon't know why I'm not grasping this, but…

Does Peaches mean itis more likely it us one guy going all the way back to 1997?

Please be gentle, Iswear Im not usually this dense.

 

[policyoftruth501]

I stand corrected. What is your take on his memory? I do believe he has the best intentions but he seems so iffy and foggy

I don't think he's intentionally being deceptive, but I'm not putting all my eggs in his basket. I think it would be foolish to rule him out completely, but it would be equally as foolish to ignore him completely. As little as we know LE has in this case (and I'll say cases because I truly believe there's two killers), I don't think anyone can afford to rule out any leads unless they can be completely disputed.


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[policyoftruth501]

I feel so dumb. Idon't know why I'm not grasping this, but…

Does Peaches mean itis more likely it us one guy going all the way back to 1997?

Please be gentle, Iswear Im not usually this dense.

This is my personal opinion based on my experience from studying psychology in college with an emphasis on abnormal psychology. I honestly believe there are two killers. It doesn't make sense to have one killer that both preserves the victims by wrapping them up and at the same time slaughters other victims. One killer enjoys having trophies of his accomplishments and the other thinks nothing of his victims. They are strictly there for his pleasure and his pleasure happens to be mutilation. Then he throws them away like trash, because that's what they are to him. Serial killers, at least none that I've studied, both mutilate some victims and preserve others.


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[LisaBC]

Thanks. Thats where I was leaning too. I think I'm getting confused with names and timeline. I thought maybe the Peaches discovery put a bump in this by tying the two cases closer or somethig.

 

[Sherlockknows]

This is my personal opinion based on my experience from studying psychology in college with an emphasis on abnormal psychology. I honestly believe there are two killers. It doesn't make sense to have one killer that both preserves the victims by wrapping them up and at the same time slaughters other victims. One killer enjoys having trophies of his accomplishments and the other thinks nothing of his victims. They are strictly there for his pleasure and his pleasure happens to be mutilation. Then he throws them away like trash, because that's what they are to him. Serial killers, at least none that I've studied, both mutilate some victims and preserve others.


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It's probably not the reason here. One could be a guy or a group getting rid of escorts blackmailing them or curriering for them. Lots of police involvement here blocking investigations. Plus the MO Gilgo 4 is to not have personals and offering big cash like a Gilbert. Although she had a driver, cash was central. Similar to Atlantic City guy. The beach bodies from the 1990's is more like a serial killer rushed but trying to hide identities.


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[Sherlockknows]

Woa. Just 4 weeks old.

"But her case had aired on America’s Most Wanted and her tattoo was published in a tattoo magazine, which prompted a tip from a Connecticut tattoo artist, the ex-detective had said. The artist recalled that Peaches was visiting from LI with her aunt and cousin and mentioned having boyfriend trouble, Brosnan had said."

He never said this before did he? Surely people would recognise her?

https://www.longislandpress.com/201...ubbed-peaches-linked-to-gilgo-beach-killings/

The Jewellery must be custom made.

Final thing. I wonder how many women have a baby with such a Tattoo, she had a Cesarean too, she must have been breast feeding do you think anyone would have noticed the Tat?


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[Hotpotato]

I mentioned the tattoo and the chances of a nurse or hospital worker recognizing it when she gave birth a few pages back but it seems the general consensus is the tattoo is newer than baby doe, which I think is probably true. I would disagree that jewelry is custom made. It looks very generic and even cheap looking

 

[Armchair-reader]

I don't think he's intentionally being deceptive, but I'm not putting all my eggs in his basket. I think it would be foolish to rule him out completely, but it would be equally as foolish to ignore him completely. As little as we know LE has in this case (and I'll say cases because I truly believe there's two killers), I don't think anyone can afford to rule out any leads unless they can be completely disputed.


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Thank you Policy, I do value your opinion.

 

[Evey]

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This is what I'm seeing. Looks to me and IMO only, the outline of a removed tattoo. But, again I'm just guessing~~I admit I know nothing about tattoos.

Yea I eye that spot a lot it reminds me of an upside down heart but tatto removal is very painful and expensive and even more expensive then and usually more than the actual tattoo cost and many sessions and I don't believe they'd tattoo over it again. BUT it does remind me of a lighter burn. Where people keep flame going until the metal is hot then press it against their skin and it leaves a smiley face which kids use to do in the 90s. Also right next to the dot closest to the edge is where I see what reminds me of a dove. Now tatto removal has come far but back then I don't believe anyone without loads of cash or someone paying for it would get it done and only would if they loathe it and usually the only ones worth that pain and money loss are exes. Cause think about it what do we tattoo near our hearts? Usually meaningful ones for loved ones and pets or in my case I have the lana Del Rey lyrics born to die near mine in relation to some dead friends(and love for her music) and on the side boob heart area I put a bird feather with a heart hidden in the feather because I've raised chickens all my life and love my pets so to me whatever was there was not dedicated to a dead person or pet because it was covered over and wasn't for a live family member or pet and to me not likely for any alive or dead friend less they had a bad falling out but I do believe a new man or bad breakup would prompt ones AND she may see it as nothing will piss him off more than a sexual tattoo would cause it wouldn't show she isn't his anymore.
Plus yo like cancer or whatever tribute tattoo wouldn't be covered over it if for some reason was done badly would likely be redone bigger over the old one. Also those could be freckles cause my dahlia tattoo has spots like that it never had before and even gets blackheads or ingrown hairs and pimples but would hers still after death? Same with any moles etc?

 

[Evey]

Does anyone have a program too to invert the tattoo? I would need need to install one but would be curious to see if anything popped out to us

 

[Evey]

I really think it's just her skin, I have over 20 tattoos and when I look at enlarged pics of them I see all of my skin flaws. I have a sleeve on my right arm which part of it covered up a bad tattoo I got a long time ago. I've been tempted to post that part to see how many theories I would get back as to what people think is under the newest tattoo, but I don't think this is the appropriate place to do that so I won't.

JMO

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What is hard for me is as someone with 14 myself I can't get past the size whatever it is or isn't would be. If my tattoo artist didn't think it was a cover i more so think it wasn't because some of mine seem to have Gained freckles or moles or scars from nothing tattoo related that happened to be on the same spot the tattoo is. So I'm on the fence and believe the best thing we could do is contact shops that would have been around then showing them the photo and getting the image out as much as possible maybe even a John might recognize it. Wonder if we posted it on Craigslist in an ad in the area johns hunt if one may have a tip? My artist says she believes the tattoo was at most two weeks old which explains why nobody may be looking for someone with it but my artist always photograph my work so wouldn't hers maybe be in an artists collection? Maybeeven the other artist who thought he did the tattoo could have better info

 

[Evey]

My tattoo in the same area around the same size usually shows. Maybe we should contact the other tattoo artist who came forward? I see peaches either being a teen mom(maybe have given the first kid for adoption) ir just the typical silly younger female who thinks getting a sexy or sexual tattoo will make guys like them more but actually after a certain age makes them look trashy or slutty and actually is it me or does the drip look like a sperm? It bugs me that a peach is sexual(especially the song peaches and cream) and that the dripping juice looks like the shape of a sperm or Pollywog. Could it not even be a drip? I remember on cherries tattoo something was weird to me also but I think hers was one cherry or both looked as if they had nipples... I'll need to go double check though. Whatever the case the drop has been bothering me for awhile. Almost as much as the artist and his changing story his remenberjng multiple stories but not her name and magically not having records name or even backed up on in a computer I mean what was she underage and that's why he didn't keep record? Doubt the cops would have the age wrong and my artist said that's a fresh tattoo so I doubt it's one from when she wasn't if age.

 

[Sherlockknows]

Does anyone have a program too to invert the tattoo? I would need need to install one but would be curious to see if anything popped out to us

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[Kellyd]

My tattoo in the same area around the same size usually shows. Maybe we should contact the other tattoo artist who came forward? I see peaches either being a teen mom(maybe have given the first kid for adoption) ir just the typical silly younger female who thinks getting a sexy or sexual tattoo will make guys like them more but actually after a certain age makes them look trashy or slutty and actually is it me or does the drip look like a sperm? It bugs me that a peach is sexual(especially the song peaches and cream) and that the dripping juice looks like the shape of a sperm or Pollywog. Could it not even be a drip? I remember on cherries tattoo something was weird to me also but I think hers was one cherry or both looked as if they had nipples... I'll need to go double check though. Whatever the case the drop has been bothering me for awhile. Almost as much as the artist and his changing story his remenberjng multiple stories but not her name and magically not having records name or even backed up on in a computer I mean what was she underage and that's why he didn't keep record? Doubt the cops would have the age wrong and my artist said that's a fresh tattoo so I doubt it's one from when she wasn't if age.

Did you ever eat a really ripe peach and it was so juicy it dripped? I have ☺

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[Sherlockknows]

There is something which is interesting.

It might sound odd, but is this the same type of red ink and dripping as Peaches? Did they both not have them on their breasts? I wonder did they know each other....same tattoo artist perhaps, maybe even the same day?


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[Kellyd]

There is something which is interesting.

It might sound odd, but is this the same type of red ink and dripping as Peaches? Did they both not have them on their breasts? I wonder did they know each other....same tattoo artist perhaps, maybe even the same day?


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On December 27th I posted that the the tattoos could have been done by the same artist IMO and also asked if anyone knew if Josh and Rachel asked him about the cherries tattoo.

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[Armchair-reader]

There is something which is interesting.

It might sound odd, but is this the same type of red ink and dripping as Peaches? Did they both not have them on their breasts? I wonder did they know each other....same tattoo artist perhaps, maybe even the same day?


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They look like little hearts

 

[deedee21]

She didn't say it didn't show. And the thing about the tattoo artist that seems odd to me is that he can remember doing that tattoo but little else, or what he remembers has changed. For me, personally it's why I don't give his story a lot of merit at this point

I think it makes sense he remembers more about the tattoo than anything else. Thats because its his tattoo.

 

[deedee21]

I think he was saying she came from New York like she is from New York. Maybe her friend recommended him.

Another thing, how would she know he was any good?


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I think its stated somewhere that she is originally from Bristol.