Toddler's Mother/Peaches/Jane Doe #3

[policyoftruth501]

I've been thinking that maybe the child is the only one missing and perhaps was considered a parental abduction when looking through MP lists... Couldn't hurt.

Yeah - the child has always been a twist I can't really figure out. Most serial killers, even the majority of the sadistic ones, have a no kids rule - especially when they're that young and can't identify anyone.

The one possibility I keep coming back to is this is a personal connection to the killer. Maybe the mother was a girlfriend or maybe she was just a trick that got pregnant and came back a couple years later with the child wanting money. Or maybe she had been coming back for money for a while and the suspect got tired of the routine.

I just have a feeling that if the child can be figured out it will blow the case wide open. Maybe not in the way I suspect with the personal connection, but having a child around that type of lifestyle and being taken on calls just has to stand out. It will just take more info to get people to realize they know this child and her mother.


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[DaisyChains]

Was Nadia's mother deemed safe after she disappeared?
http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMC/827455/1/screen

MidEastern and North African folks also have a love for gold jewelry. This child wearing gold hoop earrings highlights this.

 

[DaisyChains]

Yeah - the child has always been a twist I can't really figure out. Most serial killers, even the majority of the sadistic ones, have a no kids rule - especially when they're that young and can't identify anyone.

The one possibility I keep coming back to is this is a personal connection to the killer. Maybe the mother was a girlfriend or maybe she was just a trick that got pregnant and came back a couple years later with the child wanting money. Or maybe she had been coming back for money for a while and the suspect got tired of the routine.

I just have a feeling that if the child can be figured out it will blow the case wide open. Maybe not in the way I suspect with the personal connection, but having a child around that type of lifestyle and being taken on calls just has to stand out. It will just take more info to get people to realize they know this child and her mother.


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totally agree on all points and theory. it will be much easier to pinpoint who the toddler was as well b/c she was not alive long and b/c of this we have only a few years to worry about searching for her, where as the mother could have ran away years before and there would be much more effort to figure out who she is.

ive also considered searching runaways who went missing and fit the mother's profile around the time the toddler would have been conceived.

It certainly seems, however, this was a domestic murder. A husband/boyfriend mad at his wife/girlfriend and kills child as well for being able to ID him.

 

[Evey]

Maybe peaches or the kid caught him cutting up bodies or something and then they had to be disposed of

 

[Hotpotato]

http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMC/831030/1/screen

Cuban mother and daughter missing from FL since 1997. Likely not, but worth logging imo.

I like this one. I think the familial abduction is a possiblilty many have considered. I think the most likely scenario is mother kidnapping baby or a runaway from however many years ago (whether it Be decades or long enough to get pregnant five birth and baby Doe to be 1+) and nobody knows the baby exists so there's no reports of her or people looking for her. I was also thinking it's really likely that somewhere there's got to be a landlord or roommate or someone that had a mom and baby just disappear with no warning.

 

[SageRhiannon]

totally agree on all points and theory. it will be much easier to pinpoint who the toddler was as well b/c she was not alive long and b/c of this we have only a few years to worry about searching for her, where as the mother could have ran away years before and there would be much more effort to figure out who she is.

ive also considered searching runaways who went missing and fit the mother's profile around the time the toddler would have been conceived.

It certainly seems, however, this was a domestic murder. A husband/boyfriend mad at his wife/girlfriend and kills child as well for being able to ID him.

There is another possibility - he holds them in captivity or at least held Peaches and the child was born in that scenario. Child dies of natural causes being in dismal conditions, mother freaks out & is killed. Or he decides they are no longer useful & kills both. Gruesome scenarios, but could explain why there is a toddler no one is missing.

 

[Hotpotato]

There is another possibility - he holds them in captivity or at least held Peaches and the child was born in that scenario. Child dies of natural causes being in dismal conditions, mother freaks out & is killed. Or he decides they are no longer useful & kills both. Gruesome scenarios, but could explain why there is a toddler no one is missing.

I'd totally get behind this theory except that peaches had a c-section. I guess it could have not been her first child and the killer didn't care that VBACs should happen in hospitals. It just makes it a little less likely imo

 

[Armchair-reader]

I'd totally get behind this theory except that peaches had a c-section. I guess it could have not been her first child and the killer didn't care that VBACs should happen in hospitals. It just makes it a little less likely imo

If u go back to the tattoo artist he said the mother called and was with Peaches older son who was then 17 and wanted a tattoo. There would be your older child. In this theory.

 

[Hotpotato]

If u go back to the tattoo artist he said the mother called and was with Peaches older son who was then 17 and wanted a tattoo. There would be your older child. In this theory.

Do we know what year that call was made?

 

[SageRhiannon]

I'd totally get behind this theory except that peaches had a c-section. I guess it could have not been her first child and the killer didn't care that VBACs should happen in hospitals. It just makes it a little less likely imo

Yes, in this theory, the c-section scar would have to be from a previous child. But I do believe it is something we should consider. Unfortunately, it is possible & does happen. Ariel Castro held 3 women for years with 1 of them giving birth to his child.

 

[SageRhiannon]

Do we know what year that call was made?

This article from 2015 just says a few years ago prior.
http://m.centralctcommunications.co...888-38a0-11e5-b906-3393be745a91.html?mode=jqm

 

[Al Ka]

Guys, just to let you all know, few days ago Somorie Moses, pimp, have been arrested in NY for dismemberment of his girlfriend, (prostitute) and throwing pieces of her in various trash facilities. Her head and her feet (with his name tattooed on it) has been found still in his freezer upon arrest. He has previous prior arrests dating years back for sexual assault of minor, promoting prostitution, gun charges etc.

I would say good suspect to check with regards to other dismembered victims around NY, including Cherries and Peaches. Private investigator joined thread of the victim, now identified as Leondra Foster.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...found-at-trash-facility-Jan-17-Leondra-Foster

 

[Hotpotato]

Guys, just to let you all know, few days ago Somorie Moses, pimp, have been arrested in NY for dismemberment of his girlfriend, (prostitute) and throwing pieces of her in various trash facilities. Her head and her feet (with his name tattooed on it) has been found still in his freezer upon arrest. He has previous prior arrests dating years back for sexual assault of minor, promoting prostitution, gun charges etc.

I would say good suspect to check with regards to other dismembered victims around NY, including Cherries and Peaches. Private investigator joined thread of the victim, now identified as Leondra Foster.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...found-at-trash-facility-Jan-17-Leondra-Foster

I hope they run his DNA against the toddlers as a precaution. I don't necessarily think he was LISK but he could most definitely be the killer of the dismembered ones, if they're separate people. I'd be curious the dates which he was in jail previously

 

[DaisyChains]

I personally don't think he has anything to do with the unidentified in the LISK place JMO. These murders and dismemberments of at risk women happen far too often by far too many monsters in NY.

 

[policyoftruth501]

I would certainly like to see LE run his DNA and investigate his history to see if there's any ties to the dismembered victims. I'm looking forward to seeing the developments in his case. Most serial killers are caught when they slip up and make a mistake.


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[jacobd83]

PLEASE FORGIVE ME IF THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN POSTED.... BUT HERE ARE A FEW DIFFRENT DEFENTIONS OF THE WORD PEACHS


1. the subacid, juicy, drupaceous fruit of a tree, Prunus persica, of the rose family.

2. a person or thing that is especially attractive, liked, or enjoyed.

 

[Sherlockknows]

The girl under this video says her Dad's friend knows her. Knew her. How do we contact this lady?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ybcyeZehYRQ


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[policyoftruth501]

The girl under this video says her Dad's friend knows her. Knew her. How do we contact this lady?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ybcyeZehYRQ


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I apologize in advance if this question is dumb, but it's late and I probably should go to sleep instead of trying to sleuth. What girl under the video are you referring to?


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[BigCityAccountant]

The girl under this video says her Dad's friend knows her. Knew her. How do we contact this lady?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ybcyeZehYRQ


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Looks like Toronto Canada...

 

[Evey]

If peaches took off with her kid and the serial killer is the dad and caught up and killed her it's possible but I like my idea if she saw something she shouldn't have cause she maybe was dating him and so her and the baby had to be disposed of. Also if she took her baby and it's not the killers maybe to make money to survive once she ran away from the dad she was forced to prositite and has nobody to watch the kid and falls victim. I can see the killer if that's the case being sickened by the fact that she would bring her kid with her.