Trial break: The State vs Jodi Arias; trial resumes 4 February 2013

[smeck]

I am sorry, but I couldn't disagree more. I guess I am one of few who does not feel that she a sociopath out to kill up and coming Mormons. I think very specific circumstances led to what happened. Plenty of men have bed buddies that have feelings for them but they don't happen to have been Histrionic Personalities that do not deal with rejection well.

I am prepared for the fall out but IMO she could have lived her whole life never killing anyone if she hadn't found herself in such an odd situation. Never the less she is guilty and her actions were neither self defense nor anywhere near justified.

I totally get what you are saying....

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I tend to think that the prosecutor has a very clear picture of what Jodi Arias really is but he doesn't have to do anything other than prove she did it, it was premeditated, it was heinous and deserves the death penalty.

Juan will tell the jury what he thinks this black widow spider is in his CA. He is going to put together the full picture, imo.

IMO

 

[Justme84]

I believe she is a sociopath because she fits the traits of one to a T, imo.

http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

She also fits the profile of a female stalker with psychopathic traits.

IMO

I understand why you could see it that way but honestly most of what we know is from the media who are trying to paint her in the most evil light they can and from his friends who are absolutely going to paint a picture of what they see in hindsight, with inclusion of the fact that she murdered him.

Many of these traits cannot be determined unless you actually meet someone. This goes for personality disorders as well.

Things like incapacity for love, could be dis-proven by her previous relationships. Early behavior problems are not in the mix. Dropping out of school is not being a delinquent.

I will give you that many of these things fit if you want them to.

Diagnosing anything off of the internet and never having met the person is not realistic.
Histrionic personality disorder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
this also fits her just as well from what we know and from the traits that are listed as a sociopath.

 

[jevipo74]

watching the defense questioning Lisa and IS having the side by side of JA and Lisa. I just noticed how JA clenched her teeth when Lisa testified she couldn't remember the first time she met JA.

hahahahahahahahaha.....bet she hated that she made no impression...lol

Did you see TA's friend Zion on NG talking about how Jodi invited herself on a trip they were taking? He said that he wishes he left her in Mexico. :floorlaugh:

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I totally get what you are saying....

Even Jodi admitted to Flores if she had never crossed paths with TA he would be alive today.

 

[m00c0w]

It'd be AWESOME if Deanna comes forward and says she doesn't even have a gmail or youtube account and then upon further investigation we find that account was created on June 4 at 3:50am and then go after JA for falsifying information, ID theft, etc., etc. I'm sure that is far fetched but then again she's done so many other crazy things i almost find it justifiable to have the kinds of crazy thoughts!!

I feel very confident that when it's JM's turn up there he will get to the bottom of this and clear everything up! I also think bc the majority of the panel are men they couldn't give a bigger flip about what's on his computer and have probably already tuned it out. Their questions get better and better with every witness so let's stay positive that they are on the same page as we are

BBM

The "profile" is the account on the actual physical computer the information was accessed from. It's more likely that Travis bought the computer from her, and the name stayed the same.

 

[lil_buddy]

I understand why you could see it that way but honestly most of what we know is from the media who are trying to paint her in the most evil light they can and from his friends who are absolutely going to paint a picture of what they see in hindsight, with inclusion of the fact that she murdered him.

Many of these traits cannot be determined unless you actually meet someone. This goes for personality disorders as well.

Things like incapacity for love, could be dis-proven by her previous relationships. Early behavior problems are not in the mix. Dropping out of school is not being a delinquent.

I will give you that many of these things fit if you want them to.

Also, we can't really say she is promiscuous - we only know of TWO men with whom she has had sex.

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

I am sorry, but I couldn't disagree more. I guess I am one of few who does not feel that she a sociopath out to kill up and coming Mormons. I think very specific circumstances led to what happened. Plenty of men have bed buddies that have feelings for them but they don't happen to have been Histrionic Personalities that do not deal with rejection well.

I am prepared for the fall out but IMO she could have lived her whole life never killing anyone if she hadn't found herself in such an odd situation. Never the less she is guilty and her actions were neither self defense nor anywhere near justified.

I am a libber. I want to have the same rights as a man does. Along with this demand comes the knowledge that I can't demand the benefits but fall back on being a 'victim' if it suits my situation. I am an adult and if I enter a relationship that the other person has told me repeatedly is over and I continue to offer sex then I must face it that I am accepting those terms. I can't cry, get hurt, feel used or blame the man because I decide I can't handle it. I shouldn't be able to have my cake and eat it too. My demand for equality should also include my accepting responsibility for myself and my reactions.

'Odd situations' be damned JMO

 

[jevipo74]

Also, we can't really say she is promiscuous - we only know of TWO men with whom she has had sex.

And one man that she made out with and grinded on only hours after having sex with TA. Ryan stopped her from continuing because of her "religious beliefs". I'm sure if he hadn't, they would have had sex as well.

 

[Bravo]

Did you see TA's friend Zion on NG talking about how Jodi invited herself on a trip they were taking? He said that he wishes he left her in Mexico. :floorlaugh:

LOL Yeah and there are some pretty sketchy places in Mexico where one's safety might be at risk

 

[Justme84]

I totally get what you are saying....

I am glad that someone does. Most people I talk to about this case say she is a sociopath. I think she is capable of emotion but in her circumstances those were not what was important.

 

[m00c0w]

I understand why you could see it that way but honestly most of what we know is from the media who are trying to paint her in the most evil light they can and from his friends who are absolutely going to paint a picture of what they see in hindsight, with inclusion of the fact that she murdered him.

Many of these traits cannot be determined unless you actually meet someone. This goes for personality disorders as well.

Things like incapacity for love, could be dis-proven by her previous relationships. Early behavior problems are not in the mix. Dropping out of school is not being a delinquent.

I will give you that many of these things fit if you want them to.

Diagnosing anything off of the internet and never having met the person is not realistic.
Histrionic personality disorder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
this also fits her just as well from what we know and from the traits that are listed as a sociopath.

I was actually thinking she had more of a histrionic personality disorder if anything.

ITA that you can't make any sort of factual "diagnosis" of anyone without actually spending time with that person. Running exams, mental health inventories, and many other things. A lot of disorders are either comorbid or have overlapping symptoms. It takes a complete history of the person, along with interactions with them to start to begin to diagnose a psychological disorder.

If you could take the DSM-IV-TR and just run down the list of symptoms and say, "Well, I think that fits," a graduate/doctoral degree wouldn't be necessary to diagnose these things.

 

[PrincessSezMe]

I'm appalled at how low the DT is stooping to make their desperate and pathetic CIC. Willmott's behavior in the courtroom yesterday was childish, unprofessional, and embarrassing to watch. She giggled like a school girl knowing full well she was introducing evidence that would be objected to, and not allowed. This was retaliation for JM showing the graphic picture in court the previous day. Her little stunt was so transparent, and I'm sure it was to the jury as well.

I said this before at the beginning of trial. I think if Nurmi is setting up a private practice this case could be his undoing. How this DT handles themselves in this very public trial will forever link him to this defendant. The juvenile antics displayed in the courtroom yesterday do not bode well for him, and neither does his performance during direct and cross. Baez is a perfect example of that. He will never be able to shake the "booger" that is Casey Anthony off of his finger. It will follow him to the end of his days. The only difference is that Baez got lucky. I don't think it will go that way here.

They are coming off like a couple of amateurs.

 

[human]

Katiecoolady said the trial for her sister cost $10,000,000.

I think it is time for JA's trial to be over. The ridiculous waste of money is obscene when people need things for life. Things like schools, roads, etc.

The US has more people in prison than any place on earth. That is percentage wise

We are spending money in crisis management where nothing is left over to provide for people to have decent lives.

Can't JA be offered LWOP and this can come to an end? It is ludicrous. But maybe it is not so obvious to others out in the public?

Death penalty costs a ton of money and Katiecoolady has given plenty of reasons why it is a poor plan.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I understand why you could see it that way but honestly most of what we know is from the media who are trying to paint her in the most evil light they can and from his friends who are absolutely going to paint a picture of what they see in hindsight, with inclusion of the fact that she murdered him.

Many of these traits cannot be determined unless you actually meet someone. This goes for personality disorders as well.

Things like incapacity for love, could be dis-proven by her previous relationships. Early behavior problems are not in the mix. Dropping out of school is not being a delinquent.

I will give you that many of these things fit if you want them to.

Disproven by previous relationships? How so? We simply don't have enough of a history. I don't see much in the way of symbiotic relationships. I don't see anyone long term except her mother.

I have ample evidence to form an opinion that she's a psychopath. I don't rely on the media for information. Her behavior, before, during and after the slaughter of Travis is enough. Total disregard for human life, premeditation, total lack of remorse, they way she mimics others, the way she manipulates and uses everyone around her, just watching her interviews and the evidence should be sufficient.


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[Really?]

Is that when he says all of this? Isnt that the date she stoled the gun.

I dont blame him......he was probably trying to say every bad thing he could think of hoping she would get pissed enough and leave him the hell alone.

IMO

I don't know when the name calling was. Last week I wanted to watch his vids and got a thought in my head that these (if more than one I don't remeber) set her off.

Take a listen if someone ( I type with one finger ...lol) can post his myspace link.

Tell me what you think.
Thank you in advance....:seeya:

 

[PASA]

Ha ha!!! Well, you're doing better than me. It's my birthday but I have to go in for dental work!!!!!

Happy Birthday!!

:bdsong:

 

[LambChop]

Also, we can't really say she is promiscuous - we only know of TWO men with whom she has had sex.

After killing one lover and immediately running off to jump start another future lover, I would say, yes. She had two long-term BFs, that we know of, before TA. No way to tell who she has been with while still living with the BFs unless those men come forward. Not likely to happen. To join a Mormon church and actively still engage in sex would leave you to believe she had control issues. jmo

 

[BD1]

I am sorry, but I couldn't disagree more. I guess I am one of few who does not feel that she a sociopath out to kill up and coming Mormons. I think very specific circumstances led to what happened. Plenty of men have bed buddies that have feelings for them but they don't happen to have been Histrionic Personalities that do not deal with rejection well.

I am prepared for the fall out but IMO she could have lived her whole life never killing anyone if she hadn't found herself in such an odd situation. Never the less she is guilty and her actions were neither self defense nor anywhere near justified.

You think she is histrionic? Interesting. I really can't wait for the penalty pahseof this trial (once she is found guilty). Was denied Casey's and am very curious about her psychology. Fascinating and terrifying stuff.

 

[Justme84]

And one man that she made out with and grinded on only hours after having sex with TA. Ryan stopped her from continuing because of her "religious beliefs". I'm sure if he hadn't, they would have had sex as well.

I really do not see this as what most people do.
I have known many women who sought the attention of men when they were upset or distraught. Especially women who have learned that sex can make men
more pliant. If Jodi has been indirectly taught in her life that all she is good for is sex then she may use sex as a bargaining chip to get what she needs. If what she needs is someone to hold her then she may have been getting sex out of the way to get what she needed.

Manipulation, yes. Proof she has no emotion, not really.