Trial break: The State vs Jodi Arias; trial resumes 4 February 2013

[com n sense]

First thing in the morning posts are my most pithy, having had all night to sleep on it, but the worst for getting facts out!

It was pointed out by Martinez that the entire report was for Travis' computer was over 1000 pages long and the report he submitted for evidence was 3 or so pages.

Willmott only included the listing of sites (YouTube/Gmail) which were posted in the 4 AM period of June 4, 2008, in the early morning of the day Travis was killed.

These entries would back up Jodi's story that she arrived at Travis' house around 4 AM that day and Travis was on the computer.

Oh, and I do mean "story" there. IMHO, it's entirely possible Travis was upstairs asleep at the time and Jodi accessed his computer.

I find it really suspect Jody knew the exact time she arrived 4 AM & actually caught the video's he was watching at that exact time.
The video is how short & yet with in minutes she has the time pegged perfect.

 

[popoju]

Did Jodi went under a mental evaluation to see if she is sane or was sane or whatever?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

And one man that she made out with and grinded on only hours after having sex with TA. Ryan stopped her from continuing because of her "religious beliefs". I'm sure if he hadn't, they would have had sex as well.

And wasnt she suppose to be in the car with a married man for two hours and he wanted to go home and leave his wife and children for Jodi? Also didnt Abe say she talked about not wearing normal Morman underwear but talked about the magic was inside her panties?


imo

 

[LambChop]

Disproven by previous relationships? How so? We simply don't have enough of a history. I don't see much in the way of symbiotic relationships. I don't see anyone long term except her mother.

I have ample evidence to form an opinion that she's a psychopath. I don't rely on the media for information. Her behavior, before, during and after the slaughter of Travis is enough. Total disregard for human life, premeditation, total lack of remorse, they way she mimics others, the way she manipulates and uses everyone around her, just watching her interviews and the evidence should be sufficient.


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Plus these types of murders are just not done by normal people. Cutting someone's throat is about as cold hearted a killing there is. It's not a self defense wound and is usually done from behind. jmo

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

Katiecoolady said the trial for her sister cost $10,000,000.

I think it is time for JA's trial to be over. The ridiculous waste of money is obscene when people need things for life. Things like schools, roads, etc.

The US has more people in prison than any place on earth. That is percentage wise

We are spending money in crisis management where nothing is left over to provide for people to have decent lives.

Can't JA be offered LWOP and this can come to an end? It is ludicrous. But maybe it is not so obvious to others out in the public?

Death penalty costs a ton of money and Katiecoolady has given plenty of reasons why it is a poor plan.

I remember reading that Travis Alexander's family wants the death penalty? I know seeking justice should be the main objective to the prosecutor but don't know how much a family's wish at sentencing would affect the state seeking the DP?

 

[BD1]

I was actually thinking she had more of a histrionic personality disorder if anything.

ITA that you can't make any sort of factual "diagnosis" of anyone without actually spending time with that person. Running exams, mental health inventories, and many other things. A lot of disorders are either comorbid or have overlapping symptoms. It takes a complete history of the person, along with interactions with them to start to begin to diagnose a psychological disorder.

If you could take the DSM-IV-TR and just run down the list of symptoms and say, "Well, I think that fits," a graduate/doctoral degree wouldn't be necessary to diagnose these things.

Lol it is true we are all just armchairing. I, for one, am actually considering a graduate degree in such.

Er, a grad degree in psychology, not armchairing lol

 

[lil_buddy]

Katiecoolady said the trial for her sister cost $10,000,000.

I think it is time for JA's trial to be over. The ridiculous waste of money is obscene when people need things for life. Things like schools, roads, etc.

The US has more people in prison than any place on earth. That is percentage wise

We are spending money in crisis management where nothing is left over to provide for people to have decent lives.

Can't JA be offered LWOP and this can come to an end? It is ludicrous. But maybe it is not so obvious to others out in the public?

Death penalty costs a ton of money and Katiecoolady has given plenty of reasons why it is a poor plan.

And what makes it stink even more are - this waste of legal & fiscal resources - is when I think of all the people out there who cannot afford legal recourse for their problems - like people undergoing wrongful foreclosure - people trying to get custody of their abused children from mentally ill/drug addicted ex-spouses.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Did Jodi went under a mental evaluation to see if she is sane or was sane or whatever?

They always do an evaluation to see if the defendant knows right from wrong and can assist her defense team.

Being a sociopath is not a viable defense. The prisons are filled with them.

In fact most of them dont murder and actually can be highly successful .....and CEOs of large companies.

imo

 

[jevipo74]

I really do not see this as what most people do.
I have known many women who sought the attention of men when they were upset or distraught. Especially women who have learned that sex can make men
more pliant. If Jodi has been indirectly taught in her life that all she is good for is sex then she may use sex as a bargaining chip to get what she needs. If what she needs is someone to hold her then she may have been getting sex out of the way to get what she needed.

Manipulation, yes. Proof she has no emotion, not really.

What I was responding to was about promiscuity. But, IMO...I think it takes a strong lack of emotion to get freaky with someone after you slaughtered another human being.

 

[HarvestMoon]

Something isn't right with the defendant.

She over-killed the deceased. Imagine hitting him with a knife that many times, she had to have hit bone on the back of his head. Did she stop, no, she drove on brutally. She cleaned up and then drove for miles and miles, carrying on as if nothing happened. How the hello does someone do that ? No PTS, no guilt, no remorse. Started to take up with another guy. Drove herself back to Yreka. Called the deceased, left a phony message about hooking up at a later date. Turned that rental car in . Then eventually lied like all heck during the interrogation.

I repeat something is really wrong with someone who could do this.

No guilt, sorrow, remorse, heck probably not even any fall-out nightmares.

 

[Really?]

I understand why you could see it that way but honestly most of what we know is from the media who are trying to paint her in the most evil light they can and from his friends who are absolutely going to paint a picture of what they see in hindsight, with inclusion of the fact that she murdered him.

Many of these traits cannot be determined unless you actually meet someone. This goes for personality disorders as well.

Things like incapacity for love, could be dis-proven by her previous relationships. Early behavior problems are not in the mix. Dropping out of school is not being a delinquent.

I will give you that many of these things fit if you want them to.

Diagnosing anything off of the internet and never having met the person is not realistic.
Histrionic personality disorder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
this also fits her just as well from what we know and from the traits that are listed as a sociopath.

That link is not JA. She was shy and awkward (wth sp?). Well in a crowd at least:floorlaugh:

 

[Bravo]

It's truly sickening as to how this Defense is emphasizing Sex. Constantly. It saddens me Travis never got to Marry or be a Father. He was so driven and loved by so many. I have no doubt he would have been very successful in life. I picture him in heaven Fathering all the little ones who have been taken so soon. It makes me feel better.

 

[PASA]

Oh Doh! I just remembered there's no court today. (so embarrassed)

Don't feel bad. I woke up thinking it was Saturday.

 

[Really?]

Did you see TA's friend Zion on NG talking about how Jodi invited herself on a trip they were taking? He said that he wishes he left her in Mexico. :floorlaugh:

NO ! I missed that but will have to look on youtube, thanks for the reminder.:what:

 

[jevipo74]

NO ! I missed that but will have to look on youtube, thanks for the reminder.:what:

The guy was so blunt about his dislike for Jodi that it had NG cracking up.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Katiecoolady said the trial for her sister cost $10,000,000.

I think it is time for JA's trial to be over. The ridiculous waste of money is obscene when people need things for life. Things like schools, roads, etc.

The US has more people in prison than any place on earth. That is percentage wise

We are spending money in crisis management where nothing is left over to provide for people to have decent lives.

Can't JA be offered LWOP and this can come to an end? It is ludicrous. But maybe it is not so obvious to others out in the public?

Death penalty costs a ton of money and Katiecoolady has given plenty of reasons why it is a poor plan.

This money has already been put aside. They do not try death penalty cases that often........only when its warranted.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Funny thing too, IMO she's really not that bright. She somehow successfully managed to manipulate those around her so effectively, she had no reason to kill before.

Psychopaths, the bright ones anyway, appear to be too good to be true wonderful people, until they don't get what they want. If everything is going their way, all is right with the world.

IMO .


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[human]

I think money was very important to JA.

She bought pants that were too small that were on sale ( I have done this knowing that dieting will let me fit into them. Ha ha)

She was too cheap to buy gas cans. She had to get them for free.

I don't think TA lived that lavish of a life. He had a house with roommates and it appears that the trips were not that luxurious or plentiful.

If it was only money, there were other guys out there that would go for hot blonde like her.

Other posters on here have talked about their obsessive spouses or BF's who were not like that with others.

It would be interesting to find out what the deal is with these kind of situations

 

[jevipo74]

Something isn't right with the defendant.

She over-killed the deceased. Imagine hitting him with a knife that many times, she had to have hit bone on the back of his head. Did she stop, no, she drove on brutally. She cleaned up and then drove for miles and miles, carrying on as if nothing happened. How the hello does someone do that ? No PTS, no guilt, no remorse. Started to take up with another guy. Drove herself back to Yreka. Called the deceased, left a phony message about hooking up at a later date. Turned that rental car in . Then eventually lied like all heck during the interrogation.

I repeat something is really wrong with someone who could do this.

No guilt, sorrow, remorse, heck probably not even any fall-out nightmares.

Amen! And to show up at his funeral and smile? There aren't any words for how disgusting that is.

 

[popoju]

They always do an evaluation to see if the defendant knows right from wrong and can assist her defense team.

Being a sociopath is not a viable defense. The prisons are filled with them.

In fact most of them dont murder and actually can be highly successful .....and CEOs of large companies.

imo

indeed but IMO i think that if they did a real deep evaluation and found out she was psycho or sociopath..that could help her in a way to NOT get the DP