Trial date set for Sidney and Tammy Moorer #1

[jillycat]

If this isn't punctuation to just so much about this case...

So they are taking a Disney vacay, plain and simple. While Heather is no closer to justice than the morning they killed her and successfully eliminated her body, and the Elvis family further endures awaiting any meaningful direction that will result in that justice.

I still believe the reason they're so confident is they know her remains will never be found and they know the circumstantial case against them can be dismantled by their defense.

If a movie is ever made about this case, it should be called 'Our Big Fat Bamboozle'.

 

[Madeleine74]

For some reason the state is not proceeding forward and they seem to be backing down and ultimately are in no hurry to proceed forward with this case. Why? I want to know what's going on in Richardson's office. Sure wish the media would get in there and ask some of the tough questions of that county's DA.

If the evidence is simply not there, a conviction is unlikely to be obtained, and the case won't move forward. It doesn't require a body be found, but it does require enough circumstantial evidence for a jury to draw a strong inference. With only one bite of the apple, it makes no sense to prosecute if there isn't a chance to win conviction; murder has no statute of limitations so the state can wait as long as it takes until they have enough evidence to prosecute (assuming there ever is enough).

Factually guilty people go free all the time (Lizzy Borden, anyone?). The burden is on the state 100% of the time.

 

[PeterThomasFan]

Big news...

Debt collection agency files suit against Sidney Moorer

http://m.myhorrynews.com/paid_content/article_d131d918-4057-11e5-81b6-f71098c89f00.html?mode=jqm

 

[Delta Dawn]

Big news...

Debt collection agency files suit against Sidney Moorer

http://m.myhorrynews.com/paid_content/article_d131d918-4057-11e5-81b6-f71098c89f00.html?mode=jqm

Holy cow. Who spends that much at Toys r us?!

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[CarolinaMoon]

For starters, they sure have a ton of Disney stuff!

 

[keeponsearching]

I wonder if some of their followers send them money ? That does seem like a ton of money from toys r us, but they could of had the credit card for many years.

 

[TTF14]

I have a Toys R Us credit card. It's just a Visa/Mastercard like any other credit card. You just earn points you can spend at Toys R Us.

 

[TTF14]

In this day and age, I can't imagine any employer not googling a potential employee.

 

[stillwatersc]

I wonder if some of their followers send them money ? That does seem like a ton of money from toys r us, but they could of had the credit card for many years.

This helps explain how they were financing their lifestyle. I have raised 4 children and have not spent anywhere close to $6000 at Toys 'R Us in my whole life! There are probably allot more credit cards out there charged to the hilt, possibly in the childrens' names also. So frustrating that Heather is not getting justice. It does my heart good to see these worms squirming.

 

[Foxfire]

In this day and age, I can't imagine any employer not googling a potential employee.

I agree TTF14.. They can run, but they cannot hide from their past, present, or futures. Or can they? Psychopaths are very calculating, creative, deflective, and manipulative. Imo, a calculated ruse is in the making by the M's to escape justice..

 

[Madeleine74]

In this day and age, I can't imagine any employer not googling a potential employee.

It can happen. Depends on the employer and if it even occurs to them to do so (not everyone thinks of it, believe it or not). Or, they might do an Internet search but not until later in the interview cycle as they are deciding to make an offer.

If this elusive FL employer does a search they'll find a lot of information. And even if they don't, it would not surprise me if any future employer of SM is contacted by people who follow the case and told about his pending criminal and civil issues. It's happened in other cases, btw.

 

[jillycat]

I can't imagine that any chain restaurant, such as Red Lobster, which was referenced in the hearing news, just interviews a guy from another state for their maintenance needs. These places operate under the mantle of the corporation and have background check systems and HR departments sniffing out potential candidates, even if they're third party contractors. Those contractors have to bid and go through some vetting. Credit checks are standard these days when large companies are looking at a candidate. I have a friend with a small commercial cleaning service and he bid the services for the local Verizon's corporate sales office. He was vetted and the contract terms and negotiations took time. He didn't just show up with a mop and a pail. So unless these chains allow their franchisees to hand over keys to just anyone who does repair work, I can't imagine that the M's are being any more honest about this latest adventure than they have been about anything else.

Orlando? Really? If the job searching/interview was in Cypress, TX or Coon Rapids, MN, and the news was reporting that the defendants have to show proof of legitimate job searches and interviews, and they provided such verification to the court, I might be able to gag this tale down with a gallon or so of water. But too much about it smacks of Tammy Tales and her obsession with not only Disney vacays, but getting away with something. It's her and Sid against the cruel world, and by God, not even being on trial for murder is going to get in the way of Tammy's Big Adventures and boast-worthy journeys.

Nope, I don't buy it. And I don't buy that as the school year approaches, TM would focus on accompanying hubby to a job interview out of state, when surely greater tasks confront her.

So for me, it's back to what is going on with this trial? Or non-trial as the case may be. What is so complicated or mitigating in this case that the defendants are living it up and now romping to Orlando wearing ankle monitors while their murder trial is on the back burner? And the Solicitor is agreeing that folks just need to find work? Can the State be any more accommodating to the M's and their special needs and desires? While Heather is God knows where and their central claim against these two is that they killed her quick at a boat landing and...and...and...well, we don't have a theory on anything beyond that.

I just really wonder why the State keeps bending the knee to these two defendants as time keeps passing.

 

[Madeleine74]

The Toys R Us credit card is a branded visa or mastercard that allows the card holder to earn points/rewards for using the card, which can provide discounts or freebies @ Toys R Us. It can be used anywhere major credit cards are accepted.

It doesn't mean they spent $6000+ at Toys R Us itself. Just like I have an airline credit card. My purchases earn points which I can redeem for travel, but only a very small % of my purchases are actually acquired through travel, the majority of my purchases fall into several other categories.

So the underlying credit card company (either Visa or Mastercard) is the party going after the deadbeat M's on this, or whoever they sold off the debt to.

 

[Delta Dawn]

The Toys R Us credit card is a branded visa or mastercard that allows the card holder to earn points/rewards for using the card, which can provide discounts or freebies @ Toys R Us. It can be used anywhere major credit cards are accepted.

It doesn't mean they spent $6000+ at Toys R Us itself. Just like I have an airline credit card. My purchases earn points which I can redeem for travel, but only a very small % of my purchases are actually acquired through travel, the majority of my purchases fall into several other categories.

So the underlying credit card company (either Visa or Mastercard) is the party going after the deadbeat M's on this, or whoever they sold off the debt to.

Thanks. I wasn't aware TRU had one of those cards.

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[stillwatersc]

..So for me, it's back to what is going on with this trial? Or non-trial as the case may be. What is so complicated or mitigating in this case that the defendants are living it up and now romping to Orlando wearing ankle monitors while their murder trial is on the back burner? And the Solicitor is agreeing that folks just need to find work? Can the State be any more accommodating to the M's and their special needs and desires? While Heather is God knows where and their central claim against these two is that they killed her quick at a boat landing and...and...and...well, we don't have a theory on anything beyond that.

I just really wonder why the State keeps bending the knee to these two defendants as time keeps passing.

Hopefully the State is giving them enough rope to hang themselves. A trip to Disney now could be evidence of the Moorers lying and being deceitful to the court. If I were a juror that would cause me to question the credibility of any testimony coming from them.

 

[jillycat]

Hopefully the State is giving them enough rope to hang themselves. A trip to Disney now could be evidence of the Moorers lying and being deceitful to the court. If I were a juror that would cause me to question the credibility of any testimony coming from them.

If the state is now relying on the M's to be deceitful to the court about bond modification terms, it doesn't have a case.

And should this thing go to trial, I doubt that there will be testimony from either M.

 

[Madeleine74]

Doubt the state is relying on anything from the M's at this point. They either have evidence to convince a jury BARD or they don't. The lack of scheduling a trial has me at this point questioning the state and the DA. I remember they said they wanted to do more testing, but at that point the defense could force the state's hand and schedule the trial, hoping the state's additional testing wouldn't be ready in time.

All I know is this case is weird and I've never followed any case out of this jurisdiction, so I don't know if they are often skittish in taking cases to trial or if this one case has issues that will preclude them from litigating it.

 

[jillycat]

Yes, this is the point. One has a case, or not.

And I can't imagine a scenario where the State could get a case to an arrest and trial date, then hold back because of feeling skittish about trials. I cannot imagine a defense that would allow the defendant to remain charged with murder if something is truly preventing the case against the defendant from being tried.

 

[scaredtopost]

Even if a company did a background check, the kidnapping and murder charges would not appear because they have not been found guilty. Only crimes you've been convicted of will appear on a standard background check. In his line of work, employers may not take the time to google/research a candidate if his/her check comes back with minimal or no results. (JMO - although I worked with 3 different pre-employment screening companies during my HR days). That being said, I still think it's a bunch of crap and it makes me angry...

 

[ZooSleuth]

Hopefully the State is giving them enough rope to hang themselves. A trip to Disney now could be evidence of the Moorers lying and being deceitful to the court. If I were a juror that would cause me to question the credibility of any testimony coming from them.

Even if they were found to be lying to the court, I think it would have no effect on their trial. At worst they get their bond revoked. None of that would be brought up to the jury during a trial because it doesn't have to do with the crimes they're being charged with.