Trial date set for Sidney and Tammy Moorer? #2

[Madeleine74]

Yes, I don't think this is something that will usurp regular DNA testing because defense attorneys can claim the cop had a vested interest in the outcome. There needs to be checks and balances maintained and that implies a totally independent science pro whose work is beyond reproach.

But anyway, back to the subject. Typically 3 to 6 months to process skeletonized remains because labs have more than one case and unless this one skull and bone(s) are prioritized, there will be other cases ahead of this one for the lab.

 

[EmmaRose]

Just stopping in to say I hope 2016 brings answers to what happened to poor Heather and those who know they are guilty will finally be brought to trial.

I also want to wish fellow posters a very Happy New Year. It has been amazing following on Heather's thread for two years with you all and I hope we will be able to also follow her trial together!

 

[Wagara]

Happy New Year! Hoping this is the year Heather comes home.

 

[PeterThomasFan]

Happy New Year everyone!

 

[2Hope4]

How does all that social media posting NOT violate the gag order? Especially when the judge said NO SOCIAL MEDIA posting?? I clearly remember hearing that judge that gave them bond say they were not to be posting, as it was one of the things the Elvis family brought up to the judge. While I appreciate the judge thinking about the constitution, his view of what it says versus mine and many judges around the world differs. IMO ANYONE charged with murder should sit where they are until trial. It's too much of a risk otherwise. Not only to the general public but to the accused as well. I'm not saying vigilante justice is good. I'm thinking when emotions are high, someone's loved one deceased, evidence known of the arrest, the accused running amok and causing chaos can't be a good thing for any community. As such, if the M's were so afraid of their lives that they all were all sleeping in the same bed, with SM handcuffed to the bed, etc., why the heck would they want out of jail????

This case is a tragedy. Not knowing where Heather is must be difficult for her family and loved ones. I hope they can find some peace in knowing that anyone can take our earthly life away, but they can't take our soul!!! Those that believe in God and an everlasting life following this earthly one, hopefully can find some solace in knowing that no one can touch their soul!

I am not looking forward to this trial with the circus that has surrounded it thus far.

 

[poppygirl]

On the new DNA technology - I think anything that lets LE do their own tests will reduce the backlogs at the centralized labs - which should reduce the wait time for typical DNA results. As for the validity of the newer 'quick' tests...it sounds to me like LE would use this to rule out suspects or make a quick arrest. Once they've actually arrested someone, I would think they'd do an 'official' DNA test to avoid any legal dilemmas - but that's just me speculating.

Happy New Year Websleuths - hope this is the year that Heather gets justice and her family gets answers and finds some degree of closure.

 

[bestill]

Happy New Year! Hope we have a trial scheduled soon and I agree with EmmaRose it's hard to believe it's been 2 years that we've been following this case. You all are the best!

 

[PeterThomasFan]

3-6 months my :silenced:. 13 days to identify DNA from this missing person...

Awendaw, SC in Charleston County

Reported missing - September 18, 2015
Body found - September 25, 2015 12:30pm (7 days)
Human remains identified through DNA - October 8, 2015 (13 days)

http://raycomgroup.worldnow.com/story/30092518/authorities-searching-for-missing-bamberg-county-man
http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150923/PC16/150929693
http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20151008/PC16/151009424
http://counton2.com/2015/09/25/hunters-discover-human-remains-in-awendaw/
Why no news yet about remains found in Berkeley County yet? Especially with the help of the FBI? :thinking:

Skull found near Cainhoy Elementary School on November 27, 2015 (38 days to date)

BBM

Sheriff's deputies say the finding may be connected to a case in another, undisclosed jurisdiction. Sheriff S. Duane Lewis said both the FBI and the State Law Enforcement Division have sent teams of experts to help with the investigation given to the rural area's terrain and other logistical issues.

http://www.postandcourier.com/artic...-berkeley-county-in-human-skull-investigation
http://abcnews4.com/news/local/coroner-skull-found-in-woods

 

[JerseyGirl]

I believe we are also waiting on identifying these remains in Hemmingway, not far from MB: http://wbtw.com/2015/12/08/hemingway-hunter-discovers-human-remains-in-woods/

 

[meinmyrtlebeach]

I'm with PTF....there's something up with this discovery of remains. Here's why I think so...

Initially, when the first reports of a skull being found came out it simply said that DNA testing would be used to try to determine an identity etc. Then within a day or two the story changed, if I remember right, stating that the FBI and SLED are assisting as it may be related to a case in another jurisdiction. Now, we all know that DNA isn't going to be done with testing within a day or two. If they simply found a skull, that wouldn't lead anyone to believe it might be related to another jurisdiction simply because there is a skull. Unless for some reason they don't have a single unsolved homicide or missing person in Berkeley County(quite unlikely).

So in order for them to state that "it might be related to a case in a different jurisdiction" something had to have made them say that. It couldn't possibly be said that way within a day of finding a skull and a small bone unless they found something else to point them in that direction. It seems to me, that something else must have been found. Perhaps a watch? A cell phone? A certain article of clothing? Another type of identification?

I'm not saying it's more likely to be HE, but the way this has come out, it would seem more likely that they KNOW or have a suspicion that it's related to a case elsewhere. Perhaps HE? Perhaps BD? I don't know...but it just doesn't pass the smell test with the wording they've used. They know SOMETHING about this particular skull for them to have stated within a day or so of finding it that it "may be related to a case in another jurisdiction", because we know that there wasn't any way possible for DNA to point them in that direction within 24 or 48 hours.

Anyone else feel this way? Or am I just grasping at straws and going crazy?

 

[bestill]

I'm with PTF....there's something up with this discovery of remains. Here's why I think so...

Initially, when the first reports of a skull being found came out it simply said that DNA testing would be used to try to determine an identity etc. Then within a day or two the story changed, if I remember right, stating that the FBI and SLED are assisting as it may be related to a case in another jurisdiction. Now, we all know that DNA isn't going to be done with testing within a day or two. If they simply found a skull, that wouldn't lead anyone to believe it might be related to another jurisdiction simply because there is a skull. Unless for some reason they don't have a single unsolved homicide or missing person in Berkeley County(quite unlikely).

So in order for them to state that "it might be related to a case in a different jurisdiction" something had to have made them say that. It couldn't possibly be said that way within a day of finding a skull and a small bone unless they found something else to point them in that direction. It seems to me, that something else must have been found. Perhaps a watch? A cell phone? A certain article of clothing? Another type of identification?

I'm not saying it's more likely to be HE, but the way this has come out, it would seem more likely that they KNOW or have a suspicion that it's related to a case elsewhere. Perhaps HE? Perhaps BD? I don't know...but it just doesn't pass the smell test with the wording they've used. They know SOMETHING about this particular skull for them to have stated within a day or so of finding it that it "may be related to a case in another jurisdiction", because we know that there wasn't any way possible for DNA to point them in that direction within 24 or 48 hours.

Anyone else feel this way? Or am I just grasping at straws and going crazy?

Excellent points! Could it also be that there may be some tracking leading them to that area, maybe someones cellphone? gps on a truck? purchase receipt? Wasn't there early reports that Heather's phone signal stopped at 6 am? I remember some confusion with that.

 

[PeterThomasFan]

Agreed @meinmyrtlebeach. Other evidence could have been found near or with the remains like a blanket, towel, jewelry, clothing, hair fibers, etc..

Plus the fact that DNA wouldn't be necessary for immediate identification to rule out other known missing persons in the area. All they would need to do is check dental records! How long could that possibly take? Uhh... 20 minutes?

At least inform the general public where they stand with the investigation IMO.

 

[Madeleine74]

I'm suggesting there can be nuances in reporting what someone else said (as reporters do when they are reporting on various cases), which can sometimes get interpreted in a way that causes confusion.

In addition, it seems when there's a missing person and then a body is found within a couple hundred miles, there's an accompanying assumption made by case followers the remains are the very missing person they are focused on. This sometimes occurs even before a gender is determined and disclosed. So yes, without actual information released about the remains (like gender, age, approx # of months or years remains have been there) it is like trying to read tea leaves in making a connection of some remains to a specific missing person.

 

[jillycat]

I'm with PTF....there's something up with this discovery of remains. Here's why I think so...

Initially, when the first reports of a skull being found came out it simply said that DNA testing would be used to try to determine an identity etc. Then within a day or two the story changed, if I remember right, stating that the FBI and SLED are assisting as it may be related to a case in another jurisdiction. Now, we all know that DNA isn't going to be done with testing within a day or two. If they simply found a skull, that wouldn't lead anyone to believe it might be related to another jurisdiction simply because there is a skull. Unless for some reason they don't have a single unsolved homicide or missing person in Berkeley County(quite unlikely).

So in order for them to state that "it might be related to a case in a different jurisdiction" something had to have made them say that. It couldn't possibly be said that way within a day of finding a skull and a small bone unless they found something else to point them in that direction. It seems to me, that something else must have been found. Perhaps a watch? A cell phone? A certain article of clothing? Another type of identification?

I'm not saying it's more likely to be HE, but the way this has come out, it would seem more likely that they KNOW or have a suspicion that it's related to a case elsewhere. Perhaps HE? Perhaps BD? I don't know...but it just doesn't pass the smell test with the wording they've used. They know SOMETHING about this particular skull for them to have stated within a day or so of finding it that it "may be related to a case in another jurisdiction", because we know that there wasn't any way possible for DNA to point them in that direction within 24 or 48 hours.

Anyone else feel this way? Or am I just grasping at straws and going crazy?

I don't think you're going crazy. I think these cases can be frustrating and what's not being said at times can add to that.

In my view, FWIW, the presence of the FBI isn't necessarily remarkable. We don't know what constitutes FBI/federal jurisdiction in this situation, or what additional circumstances may have led LE to request the FBI's specialized skills. As for Heather's case, this isn't the first time we've heard that local LE has tapped other LE agencies to share information when remains were found. It may be as simple as any remains within a particular geographical range or on a particular corridor are of interest to those involved in Heather's case. It could also be, as you suggested, that it's the BD case being referenced. Sadly, there are enough missing people and the turning up of remains that any jurisdiction could have an interest.

In regard to the wording, I do understand what you mean. But I look to the initial reports about the phone log in Heather's case, and the 6:00 a.m. references by LE that implied she was alive and in communication with SM that late in the morning, plus the "data" vs "ping" debates, as prime examples of how wording can lead to a frustrating string of presumptions.

I don't think the M's and/or anyone who helped them were dumb enough to dump a body in an area such as this (I think the septic tank theory, or some other similar scenario is more likely), but of course anything is possible. However, I do think the state and LE have no idea where she is, so any remains that emerge in that geography, or in areas where the M's were known to travel, are of interest in Heather's case. JMO

 

[stillwatersc]

IMO a septic tank would be a dumb place to put a body. Septic tanks need to be pumped out every few years. When we had ours pumped, everyone could see the stuff being pumped out. Apparently the peeps who lived in our home previously flushed LOTS of condoms.:blushing::blushing::blushing: Bones would be pretty obvious. Burying a body would be a much safer option.

 

[stillwatersc]

So many missing, I doubt the remains found are Heather. However, Tammy has been acting even crazier lately...is it because of the TV show; is she drinking heavily again or something else?

I keep thinking about that last picture of Heather and the big watch. Would love to know if that watch was left at her apartment or if it is still missing.

 

[Dr. Know?]

This article states the jurisdiction interested a bit differently. It could be related to HE as the M's went to visit SM's parents for Christmas that year. It could also be related to a different missing person. Just wish they would announce who it was for the families.

The Berkeley County Sheriff’s Office said Tuesday that investigators received information from another jurisdiction about a case that involves a location within the Huger area that may be related to their investigation.

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20151201/PC16/151209954

 

[stillwatersc]

This article states the jurisdiction interested a bit differently. It could be related to HE as the M's went to visit SM's parents for Christmas that year. It could also be related to a different missing person. Just wish they would announce who it was for the families.

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20151201/PC16/151209954

I just can't see the M's dropping off Heather's body on the way to a Christmas gathering with their kids in the vehicle! IMO they did whatever they did with Heather the morning she went missing.

If Heather was left somewhere in Georgetown or Berkeley County, maybe the M's re-established a relationship with Sidney's parents to give them an excuse to drive thru the area without arousing suspicion.

 

[Surfside]

This article states the jurisdiction interested a bit differently. It could be related to HE as the M's went to visit SM's parents for Christmas that year. It could also be related to a different missing person. Just wish they would announce who it was for the families.

The Berkeley County Sheriff’s Office said Tuesday that investigators received information from another jurisdiction about a case that involves a location within the Huger area that may be related to their investigation.

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20151201/PC16/151209954

Just an FYI to anyone not from the area, HUGER is an unincorporated community in Berkeley County. It's pronounced "hue-jee." Or say the name "Hugh" and the letter "G." Anyway, I know if you're reading that from other parts of the world, you may have thought it meant "more huge," so I thought I would chime in.

 

[JerseyGirl]

This article states the jurisdiction interested a bit differently.

The Berkeley County Sheriff’s Office said Tuesday that investigators received information from another jurisdiction about a case that involves a location within the Huger area that may be related to their investigation.

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20151201/PC16/151209954

Just an FYI to anyone not from the area, HUGER is an unincorporated community in Berkeley County. It's pronounced "hue-jee." Or say the name "Hugh" and the letter "G." Anyway, I know if you're reading that from other parts of the world, you may have thought it meant "more huge," so I thought I would chime in.

Huger is an unincorporated community in Berkeley County, South Carolina. It is part of the Charleston–North Charleston–Summerville Metropolitan Statistical Area.

Municipalities and communities of Berkeley County, South Carolina, United States
County seat: Moncks Corner
Cities: Charleston, Goose Creek, Hanahan, North Charleston
Towns: Bonneau, Jamestown, Moncks Corner, St. Stephen, Summerville
CDPs: Bonneau Beach, Ladson, Pinopolis, Russellville, Sangaree
Other unincorporated communities: Alvin, Bethera, Cross, Gumville, Huger, Mount Holly, Strawberry, Wide Awake

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huger,_South_Carolina