Trial date set for Sidney and Tammy Moorer? #2

[cujenn81]

Hi stillwater! Is the 501 hwy between PTL and/or the M compound or Heather's apt.? It's been several years since I've been to MB but IIRC it is hard to see the area they are searching from the new bridge and it looks isolated. We have a place where the road ends on each side of the waterway where our old bridge used to be. People drive to the end of those dead end roads to fish but noone really goes there at night. I guess we could speculate all day but if hwy 501 is on the Moorer's route to PTL or Heather's apt then perhaps LE is on to something. The M's truck was moving faster after leaving PTL perhaps they were panicked pulled off and dumped Heather's body (ugg..I hate even thinking that). Speculation and JMO of course. Please everyone keep us posted on the FB babble, is there still a forum in the parking lot?

OT I can't believe that old bridge is still in the 'up' position. It's been that way since I moved to SE NC in 1987, LOL!

It's not between HE's apartment & PTL but it's very close to HE's apartment and less than a mile out of the way, as you can see in the image below. River Oaks is the location of HE's apartment.

My guess would be that, if they found her body or something important related to her murder, she was probably killed at her apartment and someone else drove her car and dumped it at PTL. And the only reason they would be searching at this location now would be if they received a credible tip or one of them talked.

 

[rob]

How would LE know to look there? Why are they searching near Heather's apartment if she was killed at PTL? LE definitely has some reason to be there but I just can't conclude it could be related to this case.
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My own opinion has always been that she was not killed at PTL, just her car was left there cause it was close to the M's home.
The trailers are too close, you wouldn't risk killing someone when people could hear what was happening, like a scream. Also, dogs at the trailers.
I think she was killed at her apt, placed into her car, dumped somewhere (maybe the drawbridge?) then the car driven to PTL and the driver was picked up by TM and taken home.
I do realize that LE said she was killed there, or was it that she drove there?
MOO only

 

[tarheelslim]

I do realize that LE said she was killed there, or was it that she drove there?

LE has stated that they believe she drove herself to PTL and that she was killed there - but if they have evidence indicating either it has not been revealed.

I'm pretty sure we know that her phone did travel from her apt to PTL (and I think we know that it went directly there, although I'm not certain on that).

 

[Delta Dawn]

For non-locals, the area they're investigating is less than a mile from Heather's apartment. It's also right in front of an old, rundown suspension bridge (which people have climbed up and committed suicide in the past).

RSBM....

If...and that's a big if...if Heather was found here, could that possibly be another claim to the Ms claiming she probably just ran off or committed suicide? If people have repeatedly committed suicide from this bridge, it would not be a stretch to plant a body there and then depend on the history of the location to cover the truth of it up.

Sorry if that's rambly...I need lunch. Lol


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[tarheelslim]

If...and that's a big if...if Heather was found here, could that possibly be another claim to the Ms claiming she probably just ran off or committed suicide? If people have repeatedly committed suicide from this bridge, it would not be a stretch to plant a body there and then depend on the history of the location to cover the truth of it up.

Even if that was their intention it still doesn't work - because why would her car be at PTL if she jumped off the bridge?

 

[Delta Dawn]

Even if that was their intention it still doesn't work - because why would her car be at PTL if she jumped off the bridge?

Yeah, there is that minor (major) detail.

Ugh. None of it makes sense. This could be completely unrelated. Praying for answers.

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[cujenn81]

Yeah, there is that minor (major) detail.

Ugh. None of it makes sense. This could be completely unrelated. Praying for answers.

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I agree, Delta.

I also wanted to note that although the bridge has been the location of suicide before, it's not a common occurrence or a recurring theme for that bridge---I probably should have expanded on that in my earlier post. It's been many, many years since anyone has jumped from that bridge, but I still felt it was important to mention that someone had in the past.

 

[lstiff]

My own opinion has always been that she was not killed at PTL, just her car was left there cause it was close to the M's home.
The trailers are too close, you wouldn't risk killing someone when people could hear what was happening, like a scream. Also, dogs at the trailers.
I think she was killed at her apt, placed into her car, dumped somewhere (maybe the drawbridge?) then the car driven to PTL and the driver was picked up by TM and taken home.
I do realize that LE said she was killed there, or was it that she drove there?
MOO only

One of the alternate theories has been that she was not killed at PTL and that she did not drive herself there. There was even a theory that one of the Ms drove HE car and used HE phone to call SM phone and that is wasn't actually HE on the other end of the phone at PTL like the original theory suggested. IMHO it honestly could be either one or possibly something we haven't thought of b/c very little facts are known from that night. I really hope this brings answers. Justice for Heather and to get those Ms where they belong, for good. :jail:

 

[Knox]

Richardson said the only reason a news release was sent out was because the solicitor’s office received numerous phone calls about the heavy police and fire presence.

Asked if the investigation has anything to do with the Heather Elvis missing persons case, Richardson declined to comment.

“I can’t say anything about it,” he said. “The only thing I can really say is we asked them to assist with an investigation. I’d love to give you more about, but that’s all I can say about the case.”
http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/cri...cle_01f0c862-d666-11e5-a913-678e88d72aa9.html

 

[EmmaRose]

Richardson said the only reason a news release was sent out was because the solicitor’s office received numerous phone calls about the heavy police and fire presence.

Asked if the investigation has anything to do with the Heather Elvis missing persons case, Richardson declined to comment.

“I can’t say anything about it,” he said. “The only thing I can really say is we asked them to assist with an investigation. I’d love to give you more about, but that’s all I can say about the case.”
http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/cri...cle_01f0c862-d666-11e5-a913-678e88d72aa9.html

This makes me feel it is Heather. He could easily have said it was another case without elaborating. But he didn't. What do u guys think?

 

[Delta Dawn]

I agree, Delta.

I also wanted to note that although the bridge has been the location of suicide before, it's not a common occurrence or a recurring theme for that bridge---I probably should have expanded on that in my earlier post. It's been many, many years since anyone has jumped from that bridge, but I still felt it was important to mention that someone had in the past.

Thanks for clarifying for us out of towners.

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[JerseyGirl]

This makes me feel it is Heather. He could easily have said it was another case without elaborating. But he didn't. What do u guys think?

When he said "assist with investigation, that's all I can say about the case", I perked up, thinking, is he talking about the reason (case) as to why police/fire are there or is he taking about Heather's case.

 

[Knox]

This makes me feel it is Heather. He could easily have said it was another case without elaborating. But he didn't. What do u guys think?

I thought that too, but have been wrong more times than not about this case.

Is the profile photo on her twitter page a pier? https://twitter.com/HeatherElvis

 

[Dixie E]

Are they still out there today?

 

[Madeleine74]

This makes me feel it is Heather. He could easily have said it was another case without elaborating. But he didn't. What do u guys think?

He might not know who this is about. If remains are found those remains have to be analyzed to determine identity. It would be highly inappropriate for such a guess to be made, assuming this is about any case on their docket.

 

[Knox]

Are they still out there today?

According to a news release, police and fire personnel were on scene between 1 and 4:30 p.m. Wednesday, Feb. 17. Roads were not closed and no further details were provided in the news release.

On Thursday, 15th Circuit Solicitor Jimmy Richardson declined to provide more information about the nature of the investigation. An Horry County police spokesman wasn’t immediately available for comment.
http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/cri...cle_01f0c862-d666-11e5-a913-678e88d72aa9.html

Doesn't sound like it.

 

[TedMac]

This makes me feel it is Heather. He could easily have said it was another case without elaborating. But he didn't. What do u guys think?

Agreed. He could have easily said, "No, this has nothing to do with the Heather Elvis case."

 

[TedMac]

One of the alternate theories has been that she was not killed at PTL and that she did not drive herself there. There was even a theory that one of the Ms drove HE car and used HE phone to call SM phone and that is wasn't actually HE on the other end of the phone at PTL like the original theory suggested. IMHO it honestly could be either one or possibly something we haven't thought of b/c very little facts are known from that night. I really hope this brings answers. Justice for Heather and to get those Ms where they belong, for good. :jail:

BBM There were calls to Heather's phone from SM's phone, but one of the calls was to the payphone that SM had used earlier in the morning to call Heather. If the M's had her phone, would they have bothered to call the payphone? I tend to think that Heather had arrived at PTL first and was calling SM to find out why he wasn't there to meet him. MOO

 

[tarheelslim]

BBM There were calls to Heather's phone from SM's phone, but one of the calls was to the payphone that SM had used earlier in the morning to call Heather. If the M's had her phone, would they have bothered to call the payphone? I tend to think that Heather had arrived at PTL first and was calling SM to find out why he wasn't there to meet him. MOO

Yeah... you're right.

Per the timelines thread:

• 1:35am: SM called Heather from a pay phone on 10th Avenue North; the call lasted 4.83 minutes

• 1:44am: From her apartment, Heather called her roommate BW, who was in Florida, and spoke for 2.2 minutes; was crying and upset after the call from SM because she was trying to get her life back together after her affair with him and harassment by TM

• 1:53-2:09am: Ten posts were made to Heather's Tumblr

• 2:29am: Heather tried to call SM back at the pay phone number several times, but no one answered

• 3:16am: Heather tried to call SM's cell phone, no answer

• 3:17am: Heather called SM's cell phone and spoke with someone for 4.15 minutes; Heather's and SM's phones were each at their own homes at this point

• ~3:21am: Heather drove from her apartment to Peachtree Landing

It doesn't make sense that anyone other than HE would've called the payphone back at 2:29am, so the theory that she was incapacitated at her apartment only works if it happened after 2:29 and before 3:16.

 

[PeterThomasFan]

“I can’t say anything about it,” he said. “The only thing I can really say is we asked them to assist with an investigation. I’d love to give you more about, but that’s all I can say about the case.”

http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/cri...cle_01f0c862-d666-11e5-a913-678e88d72aa9.html

BBM

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