trial day 37: the defense continues its case in chief #109

[Dum-Dum Sucker]

I want to quit. Can't take Chantix. Tried the ecigs... *sigh*

http://www.cleanbreak.com/

Try this ^^^. I have been cigarette-free for 26 years thanks to Clean Break. :seeya:

 

[Tsunvirtual]

Got any blackberries? Good ones? I wish summer were here.

I'm on blackberry watch. Promised my 83 year old mom I would come pick them for her so she can make blackberry jelly. She's calling me to come as soon as they get ripe.

 

[mikeysmommom]

Has he managed to escape yet? :hug:

Nope LOL I have him right where he wants to be LOL!

 

[~*~PinxJinx~*~]

This is interesting to me that so many that knew her say they have felt this.
I have felt evil on people. Not often, but I have felt it. I have literally felt sick to my stomach. Oddly enough, or I should say scary enough, one of these I am mentioning looked right thru me, but with intensity. I knew he knew I knew. Creepy!!!! If I were her atty I don't know if I could sit by her if I felt what others have said.
Next, I wonder why Travis didn't sense it immediately.
Btw, I do not mean any of this from any religious aspect.

I have had the experience of being in the presence of absolute evil and it is a feeling I'll never forget. Living in Dallas, I had read the book "Fatal Vision" and it really affected me and stayed with me, more so than other true crime books that I had read.

While I was living in Austin, for a lot of very complicated reasons, I found myself in the extremely surreal position of having to go with an attorney to visit a very recently indicted inmate at the nearest Federal Prison at Bastrop, TX. I was scared out of my mind and the process a visitor has to endure is horrible, humiliating and scary. I had to do this 3 times over the course of 3 days. I had only ever been to any jail twice in my life, to bail out a friend for a misdemeanor.


Once finally inside the crowded visiting room to wait to see the person we were there to visit, the attorney and I took seats in the long rows of chairs. I was afraid to look anywhere or at anyone other than the attorney and I was so anxious I thought I was coming out of my skin, practically hyperventilating, the room was so hot and stuffy.

As we were waiting, there was a large Hispanic family sitting in the seats immediately to my right. They were obviously visiting with two inmates, talking, telling stories, laughing, seemingly having a wonderful time visiting with toddler grandchildren playing. I couldn't fathom that. When some of them made eye contact with me, they looked kind and smiled, appearing to recognize my discomfort and "newbie" status.

As it turned out (later, to me)that family and those inmates were the Chagra Family, who along with Woody Harrelson's dad Charles, conspired and laid in wait to shoot and kill Federal Judge John Wood. As skittish as I was, they couldn't have been nicer.

I gradually became somewhat more comfortable, just happy and relieved to see the person we had come to visit. At one end of the room was a big row of vending machines that offered a huge variety of drinks, sandwiches, snacks, and candy that both inmates and visitors were allowed to have.

I decided to go up and get a drink. I was standing back from the machines a bit, money in hand, seeing which drink machines had which sodas, looking for Dr Pepper.. All of a sudden, in that hot stuffy room, I felt a cold, cold sensation, and I actually shivered, got goosebumps and felt strange. Then I felt someone's breath coming from behind me, talking into my right ear......"May I help you??"

Startled to have my space invaded like that, I turned around quickly to say no and move away and I was staring straight into the eyes of Jeffery MacDonald. I just froze and stared. All of a sudden I recalled that Bastrop Federal Prison was where he had been relocated and realized with horror that the person we came to visit was in the same company and sharing the same space as JEFFERY MACDONALD!!??

My whole world, my whole life, turned upside down and went up in flames in a blaze of glory that week and this was the topper. The person that we were there to visit wasn't picked up and taken to the Austin City Jail to await being bonded out. He was onsidered to be one of "those people". On the following visits,due to a complaint filed by the attorney, MacDonald stayed far away from me but stared a hole through me the whole time.

Creepiest experience ever....or at least in the top 3.

 

[TXHoney]

Could you PM me with the name/brand of the e-cig you used? They aren't cheap here and I would prefer a personal recommendation

It's not super cheap to get started with them, but when you start adding up what you spend on cigs...it gets cheaper every day

 

[seguek9]

Dang you!

Mr. Knot had oral surgery today because a root canal wouldn't do it. :what:

So I spent today shuttling and filling rx's and refilling ice chips and thus, all that lovely pinot would serve only to relax Ms. Knot, sans frisky times.

But I opened it anyway. :blushing:

Parrrrtay!

Steal his vicodan!!!!! (Spelling?)(whatever that cool dentist drug is?!)

 

[Linda7NJ]

O/T I would love to try an e-cig. Any suggestions on which one to buy would be gratefully appreciated. TIA

Sent to your in box

 

[Timber]

I can't read through everything tonight. Anyone who knows, what's on tap for tomorrow? Is there a lot more of ALV and JW left do you think? Or is is Juan up soon? TIA

Beth Karas tweeted that ALV will likely be on the stand with Willmott tomorrow and Thursday (Thursday is a 1/2 day scheduled court day)

May not be until next week when Juan gets a whack at her. (Beth Karas didn't mention that part ... But it seems that way at the pace Willmott is going).

Defense operates under the mistaken notion that keeping these witnesses on the stand for days on end - could possible 'humanize' JA.
Me: I think it just bores the jury and wil backfire on the defense. (humanize JA ... 'scuse me while I scoff at that possibility)

 

[paperwing]

I just woke up. I'm not feeling well again. Is there any reason I should watch the afternoon session?

Nope.

 

[kkdj]

I don't think Travis surrounded himself with repulsive, vile, untrustworthy and dangerous people. He was very fortunate to be recused by his grandmother and introduced to religion. He was compassionate and IMO he wanted to help everyone. Children often as adults have a powerful need to save others...repeatedly. They often do that because they were unable to save their mother.

I agree on all counts you stated.
He seemed to have surrounded himself by good people, with the exception of Jodi. He did seem to have charisma and genuinely cared and tried to help others. I truly think he tried to help Jodi too.
So sad.

 

[KBisMe]

This will help you understand the emu thing; Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Respectfully clipped and BBM

Thank you!! I have been wondering where the EMU thing came from too. :floorlaugh:

I have to admit... they are super cute... but equally as creepy looking.

 

[AZWatcher]

Ouch!!!!! My margins are blown!!!!

(She never said *that*....Imo....)

I deleted my pic. did that help?

 

[Pink Panther]

Heard several THs this evening say ALV is the dt's last witness has that been confirmed or is it a guesstiment?

I think that we're all hoping so at this point. Just the "credentials" take up an entire morning session and today we got a lecture none of us signed up for to boot.

moo

 

[DairyGirl]

Could you PM me with the name/brand of the e-cig you used? They aren't cheap here and I would prefer a personal recommendation

Me too.

 

[ElleElle]

ALV cannot use examples of Travis' supposed abuse towards but skirt the issue.

By now, we hope the jury has figured out that Jodi will lie to anyone and everyone so as long it benefits her.

I'm a perfect example *playing @ home juror* haha remember when I was the Devil's advocate.

Do you really think so, ElleElle? I just keep getting bad vibes about her testimony, I very much hope and pray that you're right.

 

[ynotdivein]

I was just directed to another thread on here for tips (I'm technologically challenged, just search for "quitting smoking.") I'd love to try an e-cig as well!

This one from back in 2012 (when I think some of us were stress-smoking courtesy KCA....)

WS discussion of E-cigarettes

 

[seguek9]

I sent you a PM.

I asked too...help!!!!! I love smoking....maybe vaping is the key... ?

 

[Pink Panther]

Beth Karas tweeted that ALV will likely be on the stand with Willmott tomorrow and Thursday (Thursday is a 1/2 day scheduled court day)

May not be until next week when Juan gets a whack at her. (Beth Karas didn't mention that part ... But it seems that way at the pace Willmott is going).

Defense operates under the mistaken notion that keeping these witnesses on the stand for days on end - could possible 'humanize' JA.
Me: I think it just bores the jury and wil backfire on the defense. (humanize JA ... 'scuse me while I scoff at that possibility)

If they keep on with this tomorrow morning, I will be cleaning the house and paying my bills. Today was a complete waste of time.

moo

 

[TXHoney]

I asked too...help!!!!! I love smoking....maybe vaping is the key... ?

Will send you a PM too

 

[wasnt_me]

I object to this therapist trying to diagnose Travis and his childhood from the grave--via hypothetical at that!