trial day 40: the defense continues its case in chief #119

[luvtenniss]

I'm sorry if this has already been asked (i can't keep up!) What date and year did JW get to before ALV became sick?

I think it was March, 2008.

 

[Tipstaff]

OK you guys I am thoroughly upset and must share with you what has led me to this level of anxiety.. I just returned home from my Dr's office, just regular check up, and saw the (FNP) Nurse Practioner.. she is a lovely woman, mid-forties, married with twin boys that are Juniors in high school..and I have always thought highly of her..until now...

She brought up the Jodi Arias trial(yes, it was her that brought it up, not me) as I was exhausted and ready to leave and wouldnt have dared to broach such a subject that would only prolong my having to be there any longer than absolutely necessary.. anyhow she asked me what I thought about the woman who had "snapped" and killed her boyfriend..well, I quickly corrected her that first of all they were not, and had not been in a relationship, they were exes, and lived hundreds of miles away from each other.. she says OK, so why do you think she did it?.. I said plain and simple she could not AND would not allow this man with whom she was absolutely fatally attracted to in the most obsessive of ways..that she was not going to allow him to have rejected her and move on with his life..he had flat out called her out on who and what she was and for that Jodi decided he would have to die.

She then said, "well, you're not answering my question, why did she kill him?"..to which I said she is a psychopath thats why and the reasons will never make sense to a person with a non-pathological mind.. she tells me no, this girl is not a psychopath..this girl clearly "snapped" and this was a rage filled murder..his wounds indicate that she could not stop because in her mind she was saying you will never do this to me again..therefor the repeated stabbing and overkill.

I was astonished at what she was saying and told her she was mistaken.. she told me, "no, there are men in this world who prey on women, prey on a particular type of woman.. Travis was one of these men, and Jodi was one of these women who these predators prey on.. he clearly used her, manipulated and lied to her, all the while still being with other women and that when he was done with Jodi, and no longer had any use for her, and wanted to cut all ties with her, that it was at that point that Jodi "snapped"..the overkill happened from this "snapping" that occurred in this woman and the fury was her saying to him you will never ever do this to me or anyone else ever again!."

Let me tell you I was downright angry...very, very angry at this point in time and I just simply could not understand why or how this woman I have known for years, respected, and even liked..how could she be of this frame of mind WRT this psychopathic, cold blooded killer, Jodi... I told her that I respectfully did not at all agree with her and asked her was she really informed and aware of the facts of the case because I could see *possibly* how someone unaware of the facts could "possibly" come to a quick conclusion of Jodi being the victim.. she assured me she was quite aware of the circumstances and the facts of the case and that the DV witness that was now testifying was doing a great job of bringing these exact manipulations, emotional abuses, and predatory nature of Travis to light.. this showing that it was the combination and long term affect of having suffered those very real abuses at the hand of Travis that is what led to Jodi "snapping" and killing him in such a brutal fashion.. she said hormones are involved in that "snapping" and that any woman can absolutely be pushed to this "snapping" point where they could react in such a brutal nature towards their abuser..

Guys, I cannot tell you just how angry and sick that I became in hearing this from my nurse practitioner and was very, very short with her in my excusing myself and leaving the office without even making my follow up appt.. I can guarantee that my blood pressure was near stroke level and I knew that if I continued the conversation with her that I was going to accomplish nothing but make my own self sick, and not in any way convince this woman just how scarily wrong she was in her opinion of this case.. I am still sick about it right now well over an hour later and I'm still upset and angry..

My entire point for sharing is what IMO is making me the sickest is the fact that there are supposed highly educated, "normal" women who are actually buying the bull$hit for which this wicked pychopathic witch and her defense team are selling... that is truly, truly disturbing on every level.. it is sickening and I am truly fearful that my nurse practitioner is not the only person who is of this particular mindset..most importantly is the question of is there even one person on this jury that is of this mindset that my nurse practioner is?..because that is all it takes is JUST ONE!..JUST ONE PERSON on that jury can prevent justice from being served for Travis Alexander and his beautifully, strong loved ones who have endured more hell in just these last few months than most of us will endure in our entire lifetimes.. And I honestly just cannot bear to think of their having to be once again struck with the pain of not only having lost the bright and beautiful light that was their brother, Travis Victor Alexander..but to on top of that loss have to endure justice being stolen and stripped from them as well..

I do know and realize that my being forever affected by what happened with Caylee Marie Anthony and the Pinellas 12 is a factor of which makes me have much more doubt and fear of the outcome of this trial as well.. and IMO if it were not for experiencing that brutal, unjust reality I know I would not be near as fearful as I am right now, in this moment in time with Travis' case.. I am praying that I am just overreacting due to several of these factors and that much more likely than not that justice will prevail for Travis and his precious loved ones...but I cannot lie and say that I am not filled with more fear and anxiety after hearing this shocking opinion from someone who I have for many years thought of very highly(my FNP)..

I just needed to vent and to get others opinions and feedback on this and of course that is exactly why I came here to my friends at Websleuths:heartbeat:.. because one thing I do know is that you all know, truly know the actual facts of this case, not the bull$hit fed to the media thru the defense, but the actual facts of this case.. and I just have to hope that these jurors who have seen and heard the evidence up close and personal will see the truth as we do.. that truth being that Travis Victor Alexander IS, WAS, AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN THE ONLY VICTIM THAT THERE IS IN THIS CASE..and that Jodi Arias took his life in the most ultimate of heinous ways for NOTHING BUT PURE SELFISH GAIN AND SATISFACTION..COLD BLOODED BRUTAL SLAUGHTER IS WHAT SHE DID and my God how I am praying that this jury is seeing the TRUTH, and not being blinded by these overboard antics of deflecting and diverting attention away from the facts that this defense team has and continues to do..

My apologies for the long winded rant.. I just really, really needed to share with y'all my experience today at my doctor's office.. Thanks for listening:hug:

As a long time trial watcher I have encountered people like this in every trial.

I know for sure the the OJ case and the CA case makes me nervous but just keep the faith in this one.

JA confessed - she is an admitted murderer and she has not proven that she acted in self defense and her acts of murdering TA with two weapons will help convince the jury. Her first two stories didn't work, and all her lies both on and off the stand, and a committed prosecutor will put her away.

Evidently the NP has some issues of her own or with her family or friends and her vision is colored. She would most likely not make it as a impartial juror.


Never thought I could watch another trial after CA - but hey here we are again.

Keep the faith pal!

 

[Kaddy Wonders]

I object to this untruthful comment... kidding!

But yes... he probably felt fresh and sprightly knowing there wasn't going to be court after lunch break.

Ha! But I do think word has gotten back to him about his disrespectful slouching. Betcha.

MOO

 

[kaRN]

JC called it a "glow". Could have been hot flashes; they don't necessarily stop after menopause.

Sweating or glowing is a symptom worthy of further medical evaluation in a woman her age who was sitting on her duff for hours prior to the onset of the symptom menopause or not.
I think it's Karma personally. Mother nature doesn't like it when 'you cross your own personal boundaries' and betray real victims for a paycheck IMO.

 

[Tulessa]

I saw that as well and am wondering the same thing. Lets say something like a serious condition did present today and she goes to the hospital. Does the trial stop till she gets better? what if she never gets better? Do the defence get to find another DV expert and start over again since Juan can not do cross on a gravely ill or dead person?

He's good, but not that good! :floorlaugh:

 

[katydid23]

OK you guys I am thoroughly upset and must share with you what has led me to this level of anxiety.. I just returned home from my Dr's office, just regular check up, and saw the (FNP) Nurse Practioner.. she is a lovely woman, mid-forties, married with twin boys that are Juniors in high school..and I have always thought highly of her..until now...

[snipped for space...]

My apologies for the long winded rant.. I just really, really needed to share with y'all my experience today at my doctor's office.. Thanks for listening:hug:

She sounds exactly like the people over at the pro-jodi site. They were very upset because of the potential mistrial, because they believe that ALV is making successful headway and they believe that she is going to walk away from these charges. :what:

And they say that for the same reasons you described above: TA was abusive and she snapped and so she should get away with manslaughter. Or acquittal.

It is very frustrating that they believe this pathological liar.

 

[mck16]

Irritable Bowel Syndrome; not to be confused with Irritable Bowel Disease.

Imodium will take care of that quite nicely. jmo

 

[KMouse]

I would think though that JM's expert could refer to those videos the same way ALV is referring to emails and whatnot that aren't otherwise allowed.

you would think. JW better do more redbull because she`ll be pop-tarting like a madwoman.

 

[nadjatheresa]

I believe that David Lohr said that there is red tape, but it can be done. Public info. Only problem is....who is willing to do it.

Yes, he said it took him weeks of work to get the full interrogation tapes.

 

[jellybeanz]

After seeing a few people mention 'Play Misty For Me', I thought I'd give it a watch. I'm 40 and never been inclined to watch it over the years when it's been on TV.

All I can say is WOW. Scary scary woman in it, just like our defendant.

 

[bznbear]

If the 'illness' is a stall tactic, I would think it would be to keep JM away from her until after her LA gig on Saturday. There may be some doubters at the moment, but imagine how many there will be after cross question #1 - everyone who is planning on going will possibly want a refund. No one likes to play to an empty room. JMO

Ugh, I hope that's not anywhere near the reason, but if so, time for JM to file for DT misconduct!

 

[indycornstalk]

I am just thoroughly DISGUSTED WITH THIS JUDGE!!! TO the point that I feel like there needs to be some kind of intervention. I don't know what kind of intervention but obviously this judge has NO GRASP on this trial and how to run and efficient courtroom. She has continually allowed the Defense to get away with entering evidence and testimony that should have NEVER been allowed, the judge has continually delayed this trial, ended early, short court weeks and so on. It is obvious this judge needs a "Come to Jesus" from someone, just not sure who would be the right officials it would be to make her get this trial in check. If court ended early today then court should be running on Friday AND Saturday! NO MORE of this short weeks, ending early, starting at 10:30 ( WHAT IN THE HECK KIND OF HOURS IS THAT ANYWAY???) This trial needs to running 6 days a week starting at 8 AM and ending at 5 or 6 PM every single say from this point forward. The Taxpayers have been charged a exorbitant amount of money for the Defense of this admitted murdering tyrant and they should NOT be BILKED out of any more money than necessary. This is a financial RAPING of the worst kind by this Judge and the Defense and something needs to be done about it.

 

[SuperTmo]

Considering that we've already had a vomiting spectator recently, NOBODY wants to risk the mass fognesia that would be caused by a sudden explosion of IBS!

Reporter poops on herself live on T.V. - YouTube

:what::facepalm:

OMG! I laughed out loud at this in the middle of Starbucks... I'm sure I look insane now!

 

[JusticeJunkie]

I don't think there is a hiatus.... unless Beth Karas doesn't know about it because she said last week she thought deliberations would begin the week of the 15th; today she said it would probably be the week of the 22nd.

Call me an optimist, but I think JW will finish with ALV tomorrow and Juan will start his cross before the weekend.

You are an optimist.


But I hope you're right.

 

[Nhic]

Was the jury told court was over for the day because ALV was ill?

 

[jayarohh]

OK you guys I am thoroughly upset and must share with you what has led me to this level of anxiety.. I just returned home from my Dr's office, just regular check up, and saw the (FNP) Nurse Practioner.. she is a lovely woman, mid-forties, married with twin boys that are Juniors in high school..and I have always thought highly of her..until now...

Might I suggest booking the follow up appointment on the day the DP is handed down?

 

[popsicle]

I just needed to vent and to get others opinions and feedback on this and of course that is exactly why I came here to my friends at Websleuths:heartbeat:.. because one thing I do know is that you all know, truly know the actual facts of this case, not the bull$hit fed to the media thru the defense, but the actual facts of this case.. and I just have to hope that these jurors who have seen and heard the evidence up close and personal will see the truth as we do.. that truth being that Travis Victor Alexander IS, WAS, AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN THE ONLY VICTIM THAT THERE IS IN THIS CASE..and that Jodi Arias took his life in the most ultimate of heinous ways for NOTHING BUT PURE SELFISH GAIN AND SATISFACTION..COLD BLOODED BRUTAL SLAUGHTER IS WHAT SHE DID and my God how I am praying that this jury is seeing the TRUTH, and not being blinded by these overboard antics of deflecting and diverting attention away from the facts that this defense team has and continues to do..

My apologies for the long winded rant.. I just really, really needed to share with y'all my experience today at my doctor's office.. Thanks for listening:hug:

snipped by me..

I completely understand your feelings. I try to excuse some of it by saying that if they aren't actually seeing the trial they don't know the real facts but only what the media spins. However, after talking to my family over the weekend, they all get it and none of them are even following the trial.

My Dad gave up after the OJ verdict. He knew KC was guilty but he said the jury would not convict her.... never believed him but wow was he right on that one.

 

[mck16]

Ha! But I do think word has gotten back to him about his disrespectful slouching. Betcha.

MOO

Maybe that was some of what juror 5 commented on. The lack of professionalism by the defense. just a thought.

 

[JustJudy]

Come on...Are you kidding me!!?? This was rigged! Google Youtube Jodi Arias Trial Day 40
At 30:40 remaining:

JW & Nurmi look at clock @ same time. Seconds later JA looks at clock twice for seconds at a time. Then there's a series of matching eyeglass touching & other signals...omg.

Earlier, JA has what I can only describe as an intimidating glare on her face as she looks at Violet. And Violet getting nervouser & nervouser in her answers.

Apologies if this is all ready being hashed...am behnd

 

[gauntlet]

If its any consolation, have a look at this article and see the type of evidence that's not been prevented from being admitted over here in England. One of the accused (now found guilty!) stabbed an exgf 14 times.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-21519890