trial day 41: the defense continues its case in chief #120

[DebinGA]

Is it me but I haven't seen any indication that Travis was in any way trying to win JA back? It seems more that he was trying to get rid of her.

Even Jodi testified to Travis telling her after she moved to CA that he believed God was telling him Mimi was "the one".

 

[Arishia]

If JA gets off, I hope she the court orders JA to live with ALV and her partner and children for the next 10 years.

 

[katydid23]

I thought someone posted earlier that this 'expert' was not supposed to testify about Travis, only about jodi. Obviously that is not what is happening now.

 

[gngr~snap]

Sounds like a txt JA would send herself!

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[Donnareit]

I think ole Alyce is gonna be "feeling the wrath" once MrMartinez gets his shot at her.

This whole "Wrath" (with a capital W) reminds me of the saying, "He who sows the wind shall reap the whirlwind." That is supposed to come from The Bible - Book of Hosea. And Hosea was instructed by God to marry a promiscuous woman. Hmmm? :dunno:

 

[DairyGirl]

Hi all, maybe this information will help on the stalking issue. I expect the state's Psychologist/Dr expert witness to present this information. I'm new here so if this is the wrong place to post please let me know.

Stalkers fall into two categories of motivation according to forensic psychologists: love obsession and simple obsession. People who stalk celebrities fall into the first category. Although they have no relationship with their target, they are convinced that they can make the celebrity love them. When their victim doesn't "follow the script," they may use threats, intimidation or violence to make their obsession "come true."

…”simple obsession can be the most dangerous. This type stalker may or may not have a psychological disorder, but all have been found to have personality disorders, according to the FBI Center for Crime Analysis. They are generally above average in intelligence, but are socially maladjusted, emotionally immature and suffer from feelings of powerlessness, jealousy and low self-esteem, FBI studies show. They use their controlling relationship to feel more powerful.

The most common harrassment/stalker cases dealt with are those of simple obsession: a relationship or marriage goes sour and the jilted person is unable to accept it. The personality problems are what can make this type of stalker dangerous. The reason they are so dangerous is that they stalk out of anger, hurt and revenge. They may be looking for a way to justify their rage. The simple obsessive stalker is likely to develop the idea, "If I can't have you, then nobody else will either.” source---http://www.aardvarc.org

One of these days we will see JA's behavior as an example of obsessive behavior and simple stalking.

 

[rose222]

So basically whatever Arias did was ok and anything Travis did was abusive. If Travis is angry with JA, he's bad. If he's nice, he's bad.

If Arias continues to have contact with Travis she's just in love. If she distances herself she's trying to get away.

 

[scorpio24]

She probably threatened to commit suicide or something crazy over the phone after that "incident." He felt the need to reassure her. He was TOO NICE to her! Nothing else.

 

[kscornfed]

JW:" Did she do what she often does, and try to take him down a notch?'

ALV: " yes, she does."

So when Jodi is abusive, they describe it as ' taking him down a notch?'

but.....but WAIT!! she's a timid little mouse, right? she's powerless against big bad travis. how could she DO such a thing?

 

[NotMyselfNEMore]

Jodi just wrote something and slid in front of Nurmi to read - poking at it with her finger.

 

[Bravo]

Stop the madness :banghead: Jonesing for Juan lease:

 

[josie1986]

:twocents:

Does Willmott ever look at jury to "gauge" their reaction to this utter non-sense ?

She needs to ... she has got to see that these jurors are no doubt BORED out of their minds listening to this bull ...

But I don't think Willmott cares that she is "losing" the jury with this non-sense ... because more and more each day, it seems to be about "her" [Willmott] ...

She is getting more and more like her client !

:moo:

Lost count how many times ive said that to myself.

It's like she wants jodi to get the DP

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[prima.facie]

of course there is no "abuse" coming from Jodi in the texts because she is groveling at his feet....

 

[Tulessa]

OMG that smug grin from JA!

 

[Ladylub]

Jodi looks like she is holding herself from giggling today it seems.

 

[3trees]

The jury saw JA on the stand with JM. They understand TA's rants. Trust

 

[beetrice]

Tirades & Rants? omg!!

 

[rose222]

I think Arias is more manipulative than Ted Bundy.

 

[Soliloquy]

I'd swear on the Tao of Pooh that everything in Travis' email/texts is incredibly reasonable considering he was in a relationship of sorts with a raging psychopath. He was fed up and frustrated with the crazy-making, gaslighting, brainwashing emotional manipulation merry go round.

He seems incredibly patient, all things considered. JMO

So very true! This so-called expert seems oblivious to the blatant passive-aggressive behavior of the murderer and the very real "gaslighting" that has taken place in this relationship, responsible for the content of these texts.

 

[magpie]

Argh I keep getting booted off here

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I'm not getting booted off, but page loading is very slow today. I'm using Mozilla Firefox as my browser. It's faster and more efficient, than for instance Safari, which I also have on my Macbook.