trial day 41: the defense continues its case in chief #122

[gngr~snap]

I knew I wasn't alone! Anyone here have a mini-crush on Mike Gallanos?

Mike Gallanos
duh I meant Mike Brooks!
~sorry
:seeya:
also... guess everyone has a "type"
Jim Cantore
Kevin Bacon
Anthony Edwards
and......
Jim Carey

 

[molly333]

this trial is good vs. evil in every aspect. it shows how desperate evil is and the lengths it will go in desperation. evil does not have regard for anyone or anything. evil is so self-centered and their focus is not where it should be. ja and dt should be consumed with saving her life....not the media, not the gallery, not making up info to further their evil. the judge seems to be so unaware of just how far they are willing to go. ja sitting their all afternoon playing on jw's phone shows that she gets away with anything...her turning to look at donovan and #5 all afternoon. the media should be more concerned about justice being served and focus on ja scum in the courtroom and the things that ja gets away with....a bailiff needs to sit right with her all day....she cannot be trusted. judge stephens needs to get control or she is going to have to grant a mistrial on her watch due to her "standing for nothing and falling for every thing" with this very twisted dt and their minions!

I cannot believe she is allowing that Juror to sit in the court room. To do what? Make faces at her friends on the Jury?

She can watch the entire trial at home.

IMO

 

[panthera]

I believe ALV clearly is use to being in control of all the men around her. She got sarcastic too quickly...when she could have simply answered the questions. She likes winning the fight. omi

BBM

And so does Juan Martinez. And THIS fight I believe he will win.

 

[Sulamith]

What ALV is describing is a pattern of behavior that has very deep roots going back to childhood and that one would take from relationship to relationship. The more intimate the relationship, the more that pattern would reveal itself.

Do you dishonor and disrespect your wife, call her horrible names, rage at her, put her down, occasionally kick her [ok we have no proof of physical, but it fits the pattern of escalation]. As ALV said, the abuse in this relationship was escalating at an alarming rate, and Jodi was the one pulling away, not TA.

IMO

I agree with you molly333.

 

[DairyGirl]

http://www.kpho.com/story/21872239/arias-trial-juror-no-5-talks-for-first-time-since-being-excused

Juror #5

From above link:

"It was a different experience definitely, but I was glad that I came back, that I was able to come back, and you know, be part of it again, so I'm looking forward to giving my interview and say my side of the story and go out there and say what really happened, but I need to get home first and talk to my legal advisers and go from there," juror No. 5 said in an interview with CBS 5 News.

So much for waiting until the trial is over. She seems to be enjoying every bit of attention she is getting and can't seem to wait to talk, only concerned with saving her butt. I wouldn't be surprised if there were a financial motivation there, too. Did the judge gag her? She should have because I think only the threat of jail may keep her quite.

 

[katydid23]

What ALV is describing is a pattern of behavior that has very deep roots going back to childhood and that one would take from relationship to relationship. The more intimate the relationship, the more that pattern would reveal itself.

Do you dishonor and disrespect your wife, call her horrible names, rage at her, put her down, occasionally kick her [ok we have no proof of physical, but it fits the pattern of escalation]. As ALV said, the abuse in this relationship was escalating at an alarming rate, and Jodi was the one pulling away, not TA.

IMO

Right, AS ALV SAID. But that doesn't make it TRUE.

Why do you think he called her the worst thing that ever happened to him? Why did he call her a sociopath?

Maybe because he caught her hacking into his private emails and IMs. Maybe because he found out that she secretly taped their sex call.

She was NOT his wife. She was his EX girlfriend. They only daed for 5 months and it was long distance.

She was not a DOMESTIC VIOLENCE victim. She did not live with him, depend upon him, had no ties to him, and no reason to feel trapped by him. They had no relationship. They were 'friends with benefits.'

I don't even believe her stories of physical abuse. She made that all up to escape the GUILTY verdict.

 

[Hopeful One]

I know I'm late to the game and probably someone already mentioned this but...

Did you all see how JA looked intently at EACH ONE of those jurors after JW asked if ALV had memory problems??

She looked soooo satisfied, as if her team made a great play, and she was watching to see if any jurors reacted in her favor.

I played it back several times and its creepy.

 

[Nhic]

Just my guess but Snow White is a fable. A Fable that she's relied on for years and years to sell her message about a serious issue that results in numerous deaths each year..each day even. There's no witness to the cute story. There's no proof the story is true. There's no forensics to substantiate any truth to the poisoned apple, no witnesses to her falling into a deep sleep etc. By the same token, the story we are being sold as truth by JA and her DT is also a complete fable. I think it's important JM determine if ALV actually knows the difference between a fable and the truth because so far, she hasn't demonstrated that she does. Most girls leave Snow White fantasies behind at the age of about 10, but not ALV I guess,who thinks it's ok to project her warped world view on her clients.

I googled ALV and her Snow White to wicked witch conversion theory that she uses to explain the mindset of battered women and why they stay and to be honest, it's really horribly offensive. How dare she compare the plight and mindset of Disney Characters to real women who have been traumatized and violated. She says it's a cute name. Yeah right. DV isn't pretty and it isn't cute. TA's autopsy photos aren't cute. Her interpreting emails between people she has never met nor will she ever meet unless they sue her which I hope they do, isn't cute. It's vile IMO.
I trust JM is taking her down the winding garden path of one of the fables she's so attached to so that he can expose her as the false heroine she imagines herself to be. I personally hope he rattled her enough to reflect a little before she gives her next 'talk' on Saturday.

:goodpost:

 

[TartLemon]

IMO~~~

Jodi was not growing pot when she was in 8th grade because of the pretty bush. IMO, in later years, some of her travels through the 'wilderness' were to visit some lucrative crops. Even a few well tended and bushes could yield several thousand $$$ with a constant output.

Jodi had a lucrative income from somewhere. It sure did not come from the temp restaurant jobs. The only time she seemed to be completely without $$$ was during the righteous streak in Mesa.

 

[slanda]

Here is a link to an article and interview with Juror #5

http://www.kpho.com/story/21872239/arias-trial-juror-no-5-talks-for-first-time-since-being-excused

 

[LaneGirl]

This was a turning point day for me too...

Clearly the pedo claims are false, TA liked women.

Right after the character assn that TA supposidly did to JA - began the character assn of TA by bringing in private emails from other women that has nothing to do with case EXCEPT....

Motive was clear now, JA was jealous of all these women.

 

[Phoenician]

How can she lose something she never had?
(just kidding)

I love how Juan pointed out that Snow White also lost consciousness. Jodi's entire story is a fairy tale!

 

[molly333]

What? Good lord in heaven, give me strength to hold my tongue.

She was trying to "extricate" herself from abuse and her way of doing that was driving thousands of miles to him, in a rented car, packed to the gills with 15 gallons of gasoline in the trunk, a gun, probably a knife and lord knows what else?

LOL. You did a very good job of holding your tongue. Thanks. I appreciate it.

 

[deedee21]

Molly, she did not move to Arizona until they broke up. Molly, she moved back to Cali. because he said it was over for good. Molly, he cancelled two trips to go and see her. Molly,thats because he really did not want to see her. Molly, he told a Dr friend of his"if I am found dead one day, Jodi did it.' Jidi realizes Its over and that is why he is dead. Molly, jodis mother said when she heard Travis was killed, she asked her daughter if she did it. Why do you think this is so? No matter what you think of aTravis, this was not a self defense killing .ASK HER MOTHER

 

[AlanCFA]

In fact most people who have been abused in their childhood do not go on to abuse others. The majority go on to be very productive citizens. They may become overprotective parents.

IMO

Excellent point! The point that abusers were mostly earlier victims of abuse does not imply the converse. It does not mean that abused children will become abusers. It's an example of the statistical concept know as survivor bias. It is often difficult to guard against that bias as it seems to make so much sense. We end up falling victim to our intuitions.

 

[Midnight Meddler]

I'm wondering if Jodi ever thinks back to when she first heard the name Juan Martinez from Flores. When he told her he was the toughest prosecutor in the State (or whatever it was he said), instead of asking "what's was his name again?" me thinks she should have asked "just how tough is he?"

Yes, us normal people would but Jodi thinks she won that battle.

 

[4Jacy]

If anyone didn't see After Dark tonight with Vinnie and Ryan, they had a shot of the courtroom with FOG passing through it.

:great:

 

[Softail]

IMO~~~

Jodi was not growing pot when she was in 8th grade because of the pretty bush. IMO, in later years, some of her travels through the 'wilderness' were to visit some lucrative crops. Even a few well tended and bushes could yield several thousand $$$ with a constant output.

Jodi had a lucrative income from somewhere. It sure did not come from the temp restaurant jobs. The only time she seemed to be completely without $$$ was during the righteous streak in Mesa.

Could very well be the case. She did live in the Emerald Triangle. :twocents:

 

[MeeBee]

I don't know about Melanie McGuire. I didn't follow that trial.

But, I've been saying repeatedly, why would you steal a gun to kill him with a knife?

I was all set to go with she used the gun first, no matter what the prosecutor says, and it jammed, until I heard ALV. Now, I'm totally set back and wondering if she had the gun with her because she was afraid of him. It would fit in with her not killing him immediately--that she never had any intention of killing him until things went wrong, one more time. ALV talks about the escalating level of apprehension and fear in the relationship. Scared people can become dangerous people.

IMO

LOL...you are just reaching now. If that is why she brought the gun then a.) why the sneaky burglary scheme and b.) why not just say that!? Why go to someone's home and allow yourself to be tied up if you are so scared of them you need a gun.

It does not make any sense!!!

 

[Hopeful One]

If anyone didn't see After Dark tonight with Vinnie and Ryan, they had a shot of the courtroom with FOG passing through it.

:great:

I can't watch that circus anymore. I just can't.