trial day 43: the defense continues its case in chief #129

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Seriously, what does it take to substantiate a hostile witness?
 
ALV needs to watch that arm crossing. It just looks bad...your words are bad enough, but crossing your arms in anger (or whatever) should be a BIG NO NO on the stand!
 
I think ALV has contained her profound rage against men for decades, and is using this court forum to unleash her rage.

Her attitude with JM is quite telling. It wouldn't matter WHO the prosecutor is, if he is male, she would be the same non responsive, battling, passive aggressive witness.
 
So awesome!! Bringing up dad for truthfulness!! Booyah!!
 
"In domestic violence situations the truth is "not somewhere in the middle" but much worse than either of the parties are saying" [paraphrased] - well if this is the approach that she takes in assessing relationships then OBVIOUSLY she's going to find domestic violence EVERYWHERE. She's just going to assume that both parties are minimizing what happened.

I think that statement alone should disqualify her from assessing any relationship in front of a court.
 
Arias Mom's twin sister still not in attendance of the trial. This makes 3 weeks she is not there, right?

Last time I saw the twin she was crying and being comforted by an older female family member,Twin leaning away from Arias Mom.

I find this very curious after so many months in attendance sitting next to Arias Mom on a daily basis.

I have to wonder if she has been subpoenaed by the prosecution? :waitasec: Or perhaps there is dissension between the Twins?
 
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Anyone see Donovan lately?

I would be more worried about her out of court where I can't see her, then her in court tattle-telling. Out there spying for the defense doing God knows what?

Anyone know what she was convicted for?
 
Oh Yes! Parents interrogation tapes being referenced.

Bring them in on rebuttal.
 
Wow...is she claiming her father might have lied about his daughterbeing a liar because they had a "history?". She's just gone off the deep end. MOO
 
Oh snap here come the parents interviews with flores

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OMG - that snarky grin.....is this for real?


I really don't understand all of the smirking from her, JA, JW, KN, the mit specialist and the Arias twins daily throughout the trial.


I can't recall seeing Juan or Det. Flores smile during this process.


Speaks to the complete lack of character and professionalism.
 
I did not rule out secondary gain.
the Defendant may have been less than truthful with you . .
I have a limited scope here Mr. M
because your assessment was lacking in the (2nd gain) aspect . . . JA could have been less than truthful in your 44 hr assessment
I looked @ all info . . I assessed there was domestic violence . . that was what I was there to do.
you have to take into account whether JA was being truthful
correct
you didn't rule it out and complete an assessment to rule out to determine if JA was truthful
there is not an assessment for 2ndary gain
you said you are a human lie detector - you have to determine whether they are lying to you
reasonable doubt you go to any situation around anything . . . what everyone goes in with and what you build your foundation . . . on any standard.
reasonable doubt . . . assess her statement - didn't rule out secondary gain . . .
it's a semantics thing don't know where you are going with this
you used beyond reasonable doubt
I have skeptism when I go in . I have doubt
in this case and defendant statement why not rule out whether she could have been less than truthful
I didn't entire rule out anything - I believed her and I continue as I do with other cases to keep an open mind what might come up I can pull out of a case
I am asking you if you believed her
yes I believe her
only talk to her?
what part of eval?
any part - you didn't talk to TA or any other witnesses . . . only talked to JA - based on word on one person involved in the relationship.
based on all information I read. . . I read for hours and hours more than just looking @ JA . . .
I am interested in the mouth moving you and someone else - talking . . . only 1 person you talked ot . ..


in your assessment there is always 2 sides to any issue
in dv saying goes . .. truth isn't in the middle but the truth is worse because they are minimizing and denying the situation.

I read ta's words . . I didn't talk to other people
you told us 90% all communication is non-verbal
sure you can take that anyway you want
yes or no
I made a statement in a verbal conversation much like you and I are having I bet people can read what is going on between the 2 of us
not asking what going on between you and prosecutor

you made statement 90% of communication is non-verbal . .. one person missing because he has been killed . .. if apply math 45% chance of being wrong - you don't have the other person there.

you told truth as you knew it . . . when this killing happened that is when she had problems with the truth. . . .by chance or design you investigated her truthfulness.
yes
did you speak to her Father about her truthfulness .. .
no
his name?
bill
he have a view of her truthfulness . . . much better basis than yours
she has a long hixtory and questionable history with her

he dealt with her in school, or issues . . he would know she had a reputation for honesty growing up
oh yeah
did you review his conversation with the detective about JA's truthfulness after the age of 14?
objection
approach
 
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