trial day 43: the defense continues its case in chief #131

[shane13]

I had a professor in college that was constantly giving me a noticeably harder time than the other students. It was a very small class, and I was a senior. In fact, I was a senior who got straight A's for the first time ever, except in this guy's class. It was a subjective grade, and since I was graduating, I got up the mojo to confront him on it. His answer was one that I never forgot, and I still find it aggravating to this day. He told me it was because I was the best student in the class. so, I said, why no A? He said, because you could have worked harder, you only did what you had to do to get the grade. It still burns me, because I should have gotten the A since I met all the requirements. Grr.
Why am I telling this? I think it is the same reason that so many TH's go easy on Wilmott and Nurmi and come down hard on Martinez. It's not who is better or worse, it is who is living up to the TH's expectations that they discuss. eiglarsh doesn't expect much from The defense attorneys, and doesn't get much, so he doesn't have a reason to complain. he expects a lot from Martinez, and apparently thinks that JM can do even better.

My professor told me I ought to feel complimented. I told him I would trade the damn compliment for an A anyday.

Sounds like good old fashioned jealousy, prejudice and so on.

Your prof cannot invent more requirements for you than for other students.
Truth is if you had a tape recorder on, since he admitted to creating special requirements just for you, he could have lost his job.

 

[JusticeJunkie]

Agreed. I just hoped that the state could lay out a theory that made perfect sense and lined up perfectly with the evidence... and that it would answer all of the juror's questions as to how it happened.

ETA: I always regretted the CA trial's outcome had much to do with the fact that this very component was not present.

That is exactly the discussion I was just having with my DH!! I agree with you - I like there to be no questions for the jurors after the other ones couldn't connect any dots.

 

[Pink Panther]

Why hasn't JM mentioned that LAV was originally hired for a different purpose and was thereby privy to information that she may not have been technically allowed to include in her evaluation? She was originally hired as a mitigation consultant for the penalty phase and later, after the DA was rejected by countless potential "experts" agreed to come on as an "expert witness"???

 

[Sleuth5]

This is what I hear:

giggle.....still hate me?......brat..


Almost like she's saying to Travis still hate me, you can't because you're dead and I killed you. :furious:

Yep, that's how I hear it too.

 

[katiedid2]

What are the odds that MM stole the laptop of the PT's expert?

Lol I was afraid to voice that, It did cross my mind but REALY is that even possible.

 

[Nhic]

Yes exactly. Jodi and Alyce are very similar in a lot of respects.

ALV spends lots of time with JA = when she was on the stand JA sounded just like ALV does now on the stand

JA finishes her testiphony, now she's morphed into JW's twin sister.

It's creepy.

That's what psychopaths do, they're empty and have no sense of themselves, they mirror others who they're using.

It creeps me out.

 

[LotusPawprint]

What is this about grammar police... grammar schmamar.... but if there's someone policing run-on sentences I'm guilty as charged; my manifesto is several pages but one long run on sentence, good luck to whoever has to edit that.

 

[JusticeJunkie]

Okay, HLN After Dark is very stupid, however, is the bathroom/closet they have constructed to scale? It looks much smaller than I pictured.

Hope, that is what they mentioned when they first built it - that it IS to scale, and it's much smaller than it looks in the pix. They mentioned if the jurors saw it, they would have no question that JA did it.

 

[Boytwnmom]

I tweeted him about his criticism earlier and told him how positively BRILLIANT JM was today. And you are right: Juan would be done by now if ALV just answered "yes" or "no."

I think Mark jealous of Juan. I think a lot of the attorneys are jealous of Juan. JUAN ROCKS!!!! :rocker: :twocents:

I was thinking the same thing. From what I hear from our wonderful court watchers I certainly get the sense that Juan captures the attention of the jury and holds their interest. There are three attorneys here and I don't recall him critiquing Nurmi or Wilmott like this. Thing is, the only audience that counts is the jury and if my life were on the line I know who I would want in my corner in the courtroom and it ain't the two defense attorneys here OR Mark Eiglarsh. And I do like and enjoy Mark but for advocacy skills I'm going with Juan. Juan has a stellar record that I'm sure is the envy of many a trial attorney. He is even successful with getting women convicted and has put at least one on death row. I find that more compelling than Mark's negative opinions about Juan and obviously many juries have felt the same.


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[Truth Detector]

I thought he was seeing and definitely flirting with other women while in an official relationship with Jodi. Aren't there texts messages between Travis and other women that would be deemed inappropriate if he was dating someone?

Jodi's characterization of their relationship as being exclusively monogamous flies in the face of her claim that Travis didn't want anyone else to know about it.

"I couldn't keep my lies straight." ~ Jodi Ann Arias

She still can't, and the Defense Team, 'expert' witnesses included, can't keep hers or theirs straight either.

 

[JusticeJunkie]

Why hasn't JM mentioned that LAV was originally hired for a different purpose and was thereby privy to information that she may not have been technically allowed to include in her evaluation? She was originally hired as a mitigation consultant for the penalty phase and later, after the DA was rejected by countless potential "experts" agreed to come on as an "expert witness"???

We'd have to ask an attorney, but I'll bet none of that is allowed to come in court.
How I wish it could.

 

[Hopeful One]

What makes you think JA was obsessed with TA? I guess everybody has a definition of "successful". TA worked for PPL, did not have a college education. Not sure if JA would have ever heard of the Mormon church had it not been for TA..HE was the one that told her of his Book of Mormon..HE baptized her. I don't see how JA used TA for religion for gain as you say.

BBM

Are you serious? Have you been watching this trial?

 

[CourtsInSession]

I have a question that has probably been answered already....but ALV mentioned something on the stand that she could walk off of a case at any time.....what would happen if she did that??

She would be know as "Shrinking Violett", DV.

 

[Lorelilly]

Another thing I noticed is how the longer the trial goes on, the more JA is constantly chewing her lips. That is a nervous habit. When I get stressed it's the first thing my DH notices is that I chew on my lower lip.

She is imploding IMO. I think she comes off cocky in court because she realizes it's not going well for her. And she refuses to be seen as resigned, or "weak" in her view. She still thinks she can control this thing, and I am curious to see what her reaction will be when the verdict is read. It should be interesting. And yes, I am convinced it will be a guilty verdict. Not sure about the DP, but I do believe she will be convicted of Murder One.

I agree. I only watch HLN and so often posters that have live feeds have a better view of the courtroom, (talking about who's in the audience and did you see JA do that etc) Well today was FULL of Jodi face time and as the hours ticked by I could swear I saw the gears in her horrific brain spinning like mad! She knows it's almost curtain time and the world will NEVER EVER again have to think of her worthless twisted selfish soul. I hope she craps her pants and then pukes all over herself when they read GUILTY OF MURDER IN THE FIRST DEGREE. (tell us how you really feel Lori - I need a time out):moo:

 

[chakti]

But Juan had a deposition with her and played part of that in court today. Why was he able to take the Depo?

I think both sides get depos from whatever witness they want.

 

[PrincessSezMe]

No doubt she has her own cult following -- kinda like Juan, but we're cooler and a lot more rational

Now y'all make me laugh or cheer me up cuz I'm sick

Sorry you're sick... But I can't help you with any humor as I am in a rotten mood myself:banghead:
I do hope you feel better soon!!:seeya:

And doggoneit, the mods don't seem to appreciate my sense of humor tonight .

Hope you're feeling better soon. Everyone is down with the flu in my house (except DH, and he's tired of looking after us). And yep, we're waaaaay cooler. :rocker:

 

[scmom]

JM has hammered this witness on her objectivity. When she continually attempts to give answers far afield of what the prosecutor is asking her she is again pointing out to the jury how willing she is to cling to her belief in the liar. I hope this gives the jury cause to throw out all of her testimony as just another liar in the liar's den that is JA's defense.

 

[TigerBalm]

What is this about grammar police... grammar schmamar.... but if there's someone policing run-on sentences I'm guilty as charged; my manifesto is several pages but one long run on sentence, good luck to whoever has to edit that.

BBM
:giggle:

If you give the defendant proper credit, she might do it.

 

[Hopeful One]

Hope, that is what they mentioned when they first built it - that it IS to scale, and it's much smaller than it looks in the pix. They mentioned if the jurors saw it, they would have no question that JA did it.

Thanks so much!

Wow, I'm shocked! It's soooo much smaller than I imagined. You're right about the jury seeing it. Truly, the pictures make it look MUCH larger than it really is.

 

[~*~PinxJinx~*~]

That is part of the issue with using her as an "expert". She's only expert at finding women are victims of DV. Why write a report? She has no ability, training or education to find anything other than that the defendant is a victim of DV.

Even Samuels was at least qualified to administer tests that could be used to provide an actual diagnosis. Alyce has no such training. She is an advocate for women victims of DV. That is her only "expertise". She is not a clinician and the only thing she can "diagnose"is victim hood due to DV. And she diagnoses based on criteria she develops and can change at will as it is not based on anykind of science.

I'm hopeful the jury will simply dismiss her testimony due to lack of any objective basis, selective fact gathering, avoidance of anything that would "speak" ill of Jodi and full of animosity toward the slaughtered murder victim for the sole reason he was male, not to mention their likely diagnosis of her as either being criminally gullible or so hopelessly biased she refuses to distinguish truth from lies.o

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I would REALLY love to find out exactly how many "expert witness cases ALaV has opted not to take because she, with alllll of her expertise and knowledge, did NOT find the woman involved to be a legitimate DV victim???