trial day 44: the defense continues its case in chief #134

[sammijo]

As I understand it, the attorneys will plead their cases before only the judge - then she will decide. And she is SO afraid of an appeal, I can guess what her answer will be.


BTW - I'm NOT even close to being an attorney. lol

Well, I thank you for your input!

 

[Karraster]

That is a creepy photo. I just got the chills looking at it. She is pure evil!

You can say that again.

Was trying to find that photo of JA that turns into JW. Anybody know and can direct me where it is? From this morning, I think. TIA

 

[lisasalinger]

Wow... I just watched the part of testimony today where they showed Samantha crying in the gallery, clearly devastated, and all the while that sick piece of sh&% is sitting at her desk drawing and grinning like she's 5 years old without a care in the world.

How does this level of cruelty exist in our world? I will never understand. :banghead:

 

[wasnt_me]

I do not understand Wilmott's behavior most of all. It's clear that Laviolette is biased, so I understand that. But Wilmott - why would she do these things that are so obvious and so unethical and obvious? No one is going to blame the defense team if Jodi is convicted of 1st degree murder and even sentenced to death, and there's no way Wilmott really believes that Jodi killed Travis in self defense ...so why put her integrity and reputation on the line like this for Jodi?

Not blaming the victim, but I really think JW's behavior illustrates why Travis kept letting Jodi in, even to his detriment. I said it the other night, look at Daryl Brewer, who has no more house for tangling with Jodi. She just destroys lives. I guess we're even drawn in by this depraved thing that she did to Travis, even if it is drawn in just to see if JM unmasks her for the fraud and murderer she is.

 

[Turnadot]

IMO their psychopathy is identical. Both are full of hidden rage. Both are master manipulators and liars. Both are narcissists.

TB's girlfriend disappeared after she rejected him. Nobody knows if he tried to find her to kill her or not. That is a distinct possibility. In those days there was no internet, no cell phones, no IMs, email. All he had was his used VW in which he drove all of the U.S. It obviously would not have been as easy for him to locate that ex-girlfriend then as it would be now.

Both TB and JA want to "own" their victims.

Whether JA got her sexual thrills from butchering Travis or not is irrelevant. Her deep rooted rage was satiated, as was TB's after each of his murders.

BBM

IMO, we do know, because Bundy reconnected with her much later - she was impressed with the new Ted she saw, so much so that when he proposed, she accepted. He then immediately dumped her. If he'd wanted her dead, she'd be dead.

 

[LinasK]

The whole argument with her backpack being "lightened" for her... I'm with Jodi on that one. I would be furious.

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Yeah, but would you have the good sense not to take 15lbs. of lotions and make-up on a backpack hike??? Backpacks should be as light as possible, only necessities, especially if you're going overnight. This probably wasn't Jodi's first hike in her life. What did she think, it was a photo shoot??? She probably took full size bottles of lotions and sprays. When I pack toiletries for trips (not even backpack ones), I look for travel sizes.
I can't blame them for unpacking it, but really Jodi should have done it but probably wouldn't. Didn't Daniel or Travis have to carry it?

 

[HarvestMoon]

"Hmm… Anger Management problems anyone?" this tweet is similar to two text messages she sent to Travis trying to downplay his anger.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/album.php?albumid=1724&pictureid=14994

HMMMM

If that really is her, she is even more stupid and impulsive than I thought.

This evening I just can't get the absurdity of her claims out of my head. Self defense, hmmm she slaughtered a nude wet man cornered in a small shower stall.

 

[TartLemon]

OT, and I didn't follow the trial so I know next to nothing, but how can Amanda Knox be tried again if she was acquitted the first time? Anyone know?

Amanda Knox has never been acquitted.

 

[DairyGirl]

If anything good can come from Travis's murder maybe it will open the eyes of men who have crazy girlfriends or ex-girlfriends like JA that no matter how much they think they are on top of things and a woman could never hurt them, that anyone who behaves the way JA did, male or female, needs to be taken seriously and steps need to be taken to protect themselves. I think the reason Travis was killed is because, although he knew that JA was a crazy sociopathic stalker who was dangerous, he didn't take it as seriously as he should of. I don't think in a million years he thought that she would actually do what she did. I think he was more worried about property damage and character assignation. If only he had kept his doors locked and the killer out of his house. I wish he had a security system installed instead of being so trusting that he didn't realize the mortal danger he was in until it was too late.

 

[Rocco]

(BBM)



Sayyyyyy....now you are good. Yesterday and today I was :banghead: trying to think of what her possible motivation would be to spar with JM the way she has been. I was looking at it from a character flaw.

BUT, what if this is actually a very swift plot as you say to make JM look bad by losing his temper in front of everyone....very good. You get a gold star.

When you think back, most of the defense witnesses have acted in the same manner toward Mr. Martinez. Makes one wonder if they weren't coached to dance around yes/no questions for as long as possible in an attempt to make him angry and hopefully lose his temper.

 

[m1279]

Still a few pages behind and trying to catch up, but I had to post.

My first point is a little petty but....I wash my hair every day. I can maybe get by with every other day, but anything more than that and I feel like a scuzz ball. Jodi looked like a total scuzz ball today.

Second, and more serious point...I keep thinking about Travis telling a friend that if he didn't show up for their Sunday dinner to look into it. I read a book a few months back, "If I Am Missing or Dead: A Sister's Story of Love, Murder, and Liberation" by Janine Latus (check it out on Amazon, very good book). In my opinion, this book is about a TRUE battered woman, not a sham like JA.

 

[sammijo]

They'll get the self defense instruction and the "history of abuse" instruction because that is part of their affirmative defense that was plead in 2010. The instructions are very, very specific, however, and there's no way to fit the evidence (even if believed) into a battered woman self defense.

Thank you!!

 

[AuburnSchnauzer]

I have to say something about this so-called broken finger myth. I was in a motorcycle wreck (No- not a Softail) many moons ago and road rash got the best of my right little finger. A ligament was cut and that is why from the last knuckle down "droops" because the ligament cannot support it. My finger is not broken. It was X-Rayed. If I lay my hand flat, the little finger lays flat. While I hold my hand up, my finger "droops" if you will at the fingertip end. I'm still not sure JA isn't double-jointed. I did notice today that the witness said the first physical altercation between JA and TA was October 2007. When was JA's kicking in the ribs/broken-finger altercation?

 

[RaineInMD]

Please remember, JA is the only person claiming that this took place in the home of Travis's friends' house (first date kinda like). It is my opinion that she said this to make Travis look like a really horrible guy - She planned all this out to try to make Travis look disrespectful and awful. I don't believe it ever happened. JMO

I totallly agree but...whether this happened or not lets suppose it did how can this make TA look like a bad guy if she never said no....or even she said she was uncomfortable. I still dont get where the abuse lies...what I am missing here..

 

[DairyGirl]

Have you guys seen this article: http://wap.myfoxphoenix.com/w/main/story/89085749/

FOX 10 News has learned that Jodi Arias is operating her own Twitter page from jail, communicating with hundreds of followers -- mocking the prosecutor and even taking shots at cable host Nancy Grace.

Whoever is behind this is nuts...

Apparently Donovan is behind it, so you are right they are nuts.
Can people complain to Twitter about giving a self confessed murderer a forum? I only saw where you can report a profile for spam. What about self serving propaganda?

 

[wasnt_me]

I have to say something about this so-called broken finger myth. I was in a motorcycle wreck (No- not a Softail) many moons ago and road rash got the best of my right little finger. A ligament was cut and that is why from the last knuckle down "droops" because the ligament cannot support it. My finger is not broken. It was X-Rayed. If I lay my hand flat, the little finger lays flat. While I hold my hand up, my finger "droops" if you will at the fingertip end. I'm still not sure JA isn't double-jointed. I did notice today that the witness said the first physical altercation between JA and TA was October 2007. When was JA's kicking in the ribs/broken-finger altercation?

Supposedly January 2008 or thereabouts. I think they said shortly after the alleged child incident.

 

[HarvestMoon]

Have you guys seen this article: http://wap.myfoxphoenix.com/w/main/story/89085749/

FOX 10 News has learned that Jodi Arias is operating her own Twitter page from jail, communicating with hundreds of followers -- mocking the prosecutor and even taking shots at cable host Nancy Grace.

Whoever is behind this is nuts...

If true, it's plain nuts. How stupid can you get ?

 

[Kamille]

(BBM)



Sayyyyyy....now you are good. Yesterday and today I was :banghead: trying to think of what her possible motivation would be to spar with JM the way she has been. I was looking at it from a character flaw.

BUT, what if this is actually a very swift plot as you say to make JM look bad by losing his temper in front of everyone....very good. You get a gold star.

LOL...thanks :floorlaugh:

Did you notice that when JM was questioning her with the jury out of the room she didn't seem to have that problem? Answered all questions without any of her antics. And on two occasions, when she thought she had him riled up enough, she actually called him out in front of the jury. "Are you angry at me Mr Martinez?" and "If you were in my group I'd put you in a timeout". I'm sure she was hoping he would snap and throw something at her LOL. Which fits in with the defense motion for a mistrial about prosecutorial misconduct due to JM's "abuse" of the witnesses and his throwing a pen and disparaging the defense team.

When I watch this trial with ALV on the stand, I'm inclined to believe this whole defense was her idea and planning, and that she's continuing to have input. She's got JA's story down better than JA herself, as we saw today with the conflicting information, but can't seem to remember anything else. JA parroted words that ALV uses too. No coincidence that ALV showed up in 2010when JA was convinced to change her story by Nurmi and Samuels IMO. I bet after she read all those journals and "collateral" evidence she had a nice plan for them all.

My opinion only of course. :moo:

 

[AuburnSchnauzer]

I totallly agree but...whether this happened or not lets suppose it did how can this make TA look like a bad guy if she never said no....or even she said she was uncomfortable. I still dont get where the abuse lies...what I am missing here..

You aren't missing anything. This witness is trying to make Travis out to be the bad guy just because he had communications with a few women at the same time as far as I can tell. JMO

 

[minor4th]

Ok, so the defense is claiming self defense and that she reasonably feared for her life based on being a "battered woman" by Travis.

LaViolette has concluded that Jodi was abused by Travis and was a "battered woman" because the abuse was over time and affected her perception and behavior in response to Travis. But has anyone connected Jodi's actions or actually explained her state of mind when she killed Travis and why she would have reasonably feared for her life based on being a battered woman?

I probably just missed it but I don't recall Laviolette testifying specifically about Jodi's state of mind at the time she killed Travis or how that is related to all this past alleged abuse.