trial day 44: the defense continues its case in chief #134

[atthelake]

Another reason to condemn ALV is because she's lived in the LA area since attending CA State Long Beach in the late 60s. She surely knows that you don't get to SLC via Pasadena. You get to SLC via Redding, and you get to Mesa via Pasadena.

Mikee Daniels hilariously illustrates the absurdity of Jodi's trip planning:

Jodi Arias Pre Meditation Proved , Evidence ! - YouTube

It screams premeditation, and ALV, having lived in that area the past 40 years, surely realized that as she read the file.

I have now found the original poster! Everyone, you have to see this. It is fabulous. I am definitely going to go back and want all of these YouTube videos this guy has done. he references others and I see them in my feed for next billing.! He has got to be the best. I kept thinking to myself it is Steely Dan!!!

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[nadjatheresa]

I knew it! :floorlaugh:

Jodi Arias ‏@Jodiannarias 22 Mar
Actually, Nancy, that finger was for you. Have a nice day.

ETA! Just sent this to NG!

This is all good for the penalty phase. Here's the little victim sitting in court giving the finger to new targets.... SHE is cyber-stalking. Good, I am glad she has the twitter account and assume all her phone calls are recorded by the jail so there'd be no question that Donovan is following JA's instructions.

 

[Dr. Nick]

I'm brand new here but have lurked for a long time. I've learned so much from the legal experts and the keen-eyed observers in the JA trial threads. Thanks to all of you!

As a psychologist, I've watched in horror as two of the worst examples of "experts" from my profession have done everything possible to undermine the credibility of the field in front of a national audience. Of course there is always some subjectivity associated with the analysis of human behavior, but adherence to scientific principles can produce reliable and verifiable results. Unfortunately, charlatans can use the language of the field to lend false credibility to almost any opinion.

I'm hesitant to question JM's judgment on any aspect of his cross examination, partly because I thought he was amazing (no notes!?!) but also because I would never want to incur the wrath of his fans here. I am new, after all. Still, he could have hammered ALV on her lack of scientific rigor, especially her repeated assertions that she was able to do all of the diagnostic work "in her brain". An absence of written work to explain in detail how her decision was reached is a huge red flag.

Also, the definition of "stalking" doesn't require the victim to respond in any particular way. Here's the American Psychological Association's description:

"Stalking refers to repeated harassing or threatening behaviors that an individual engages in such as following a person, appearing at a person’s home or place of business, making harassing phone calls, leaving written messages or objects, or vandalizing a person’s property. These actions may be accompanied by a credible threat of serious harm, and they may or may not be precursors to an assault or murder"

Again, thanks to all of you and of course, much gratitude to Tricia for creating and managing this site.

 

[snowshuze]

WHO in God's name is buying that crap????

NefARIAS con-a-sewers

<Nefarious Connoissuers, because I actually can spell that, lol>

 

[laniefi]

Has anyone else observed that during the short breaks Jodi is becoming much more aggressive or hostile? She is no longer being discreet(cough) about visually stalking the courtroom observers. Now Jodi turns completely around toward the courtroom observers and stares as something similar to glaring, menacing manner.

It reminds me of the way my MIL, who is one of the most extreme narcissists' I have interacted with, behaves toward me. My MIL, who hates me with every ounce of her body, stares at me and if I divert my eyes to something in the room, besides her, my MIL will track my eye movement to see what it is I'm looking at and then make a comment about whatever it is. It always feels like something similar to being stalked which is why I never stay in a room alone with her.

What Jodi's doing is intimidating and harassing others and I really wish someone would start addressing her behavior bc Jodi's aggressive behaviors are building and is going to escalate. If something isn't done soon, IMO, someone is going to be hurt. IMO

YIKES Novice! I actually like my MIL more after reading that! The worst she has done to me is forget how to spell my name and forgotten my daughter's birthday!

 

[scorpio24]

I just logged in so I don't know if this has been mentioned:

AZRepublic Front Page:
ARIAS WITNESS FEELS SOCIAL MEDIA'S GLARE

Online attacks on defense expert decried as digital "lynch mob"

All this sent her to the hospital last weekend.
Is it witness tampering?
Threats to ALV office and online and Amazon
Possibility of removal of TV cameras.

I would post a link but I don't know how.

He also said she "held her own" against JM. I don't think I'm watching the same trial he is. :twocents:

 

[HarvestMoon]

This is all good for the penalty phase. Here's the little victim sitting in court giving the finger to new targets.... SHE is cyber-stalking. Good, I am glad she has the twitter account and assume all her phone calls are recorded by the jail so there'd be no question that Donovan is following JA's instructions.

Yup, just what I said last nite, brilliant, her mask is sliding down. If only the jury had the full picture.

 

[Hatfield]

And why would you take out a restraining order on someone who lived 1000 miles away? But Travis did tell someone about it. In fact I believe he told a few someone's about it. Like the poor girl who had her tires slashed. Not sure if she was the same one who he told it to in the IM chat. And he did tell the church elder if he didn't show up for dinner one Sunday that he was likely dead. I'd say he was talking to people about it in those final weeks/days. He just didn't take it seriously enough himself. That's of course assuming that he did let her in his house in the early morning hours of June 4th and spent the day sleeping with and having sex with her.

MOO

Good points. Jumping off your post...

I was just thinking that any of Travis other girl friends and acquaintences probably were terrified of Jodi too and I am betting that a lot of females that may have wanted to date Travis probably purposely avoided him because of Jodi. Once his inner circle of friends began to hear the stories of Jodi, they probably were just as afraid of her than he was. Which made it much more difficult for Travis to really find another true girl friend. Especially after the tire slashing incident.

This would have made it very difficult for Travis to try to find a steady girl friend. Which I am almost sure is one of the reasons why Travis probably allowed Jodi some of the communication between them. Travis probably felt pretty alone in the girl department as the girls began to avoid him like the plague just because of all the stories they heard about the tire slasher.

Travis definitely began to fear Jodi, but the problem was he remembered the early good times with her and was probably conflicted with how she could be so nice to him at times and then turn on a dime into a phsyco. He was finally realizing how serious it was, but it was too late.
And since he probably felt all alone at times and was very lonely because other girls were shunning him because of Jodi, he probably defaulted back to the thoughts of all the good times they had and allowed her to communicate with him because no other females friends would.

Jodi was successful in isolating Travis and she knew it. She isolated him from other female friends because of her behavior. Remember the video of where she was fake sleeping on his lap. She was practically telling everyone in the room to leave her and Travis alone. She is very evil and it is sickening what she did to him.

I am convinced Travis tried really hard to separate himself from her. But her phsycho ways isolated him from his other female friends and even some of the male friends. She knew it, and used that technique. She is evil, scary, cunning, and practically the devil herself.

 

[scorpio24]

I'm brand new here but have lurked for a long time. I've learned so much from the legal experts and the keen-eyed observers in the JA trial threads. Thanks to all of you!

As a psychologist, I've watched in horror as two of the worst examples of "experts" from my profession have done everything possible to undermine the credibility of the field in front of a national audience. Of course there is always some subjectivity associated with the analysis of human behavior, but adherence to scientific principles can produce reliable and verifiable results. Unfortunately, charlatans can use the language of the field to lend false credibility to almost any opinion.

I'm hesitant to question JM's judgment on any aspect of his cross examination, partly because I thought he was amazing (no notes!?!) but also because I would never want to incur the wrath of his fans here. I am new, after all. Still, he could have hammered ALV on her lack of scientific rigor, especially her repeated assertions that she was able to do all of the diagnostic work "in her brain". An absence of written work to explain in detail how her decision was reached is a huge red flag.

Also, the definition of "stalking" doesn't require the victim to respond in any particular way. Here's the American Psychological Association's description:

"Stalking refers to repeated harassing or threatening behaviors that an individual engages in such as following a person, appearing at a person’s home or place of business, making harassing phone calls, leaving written messages or objects, or vandalizing a person’s property. These actions may be accompanied by a credible threat of serious harm, and they may or may not be precursors to an assault or murder"

Again, thanks to all of you and of course, much gratitude to Tricia for creating and managing this site.

Thanks and WELCOME!!! Look forward to more of your insights! :great:

 

[tlcya]

I'm brand new here but have lurked for a long time. I've learned so much from the legal experts and the keen-eyed observers in the JA trial threads. Thanks to all of you!

As a psychologist, I've watched in horror as two of the worst examples of "experts" from my profession have done everything possible to undermine the credibility of the field in front of a national audience. Of course there is always some subjectivity associated with the analysis of human behavior, but adherence to scientific principles can produce reliable and verifiable results. Unfortunately, charlatans can use the language of the field to lend false credibility to almost any opinion.

I'm hesitant to question JM's judgment on any aspect of his cross examination, partly because I thought he was amazing (no notes!?!) but also because I would never want to incur the wrath of his fans here. I am new, after all. Still, he could have hammered ALV on her lack of scientific rigor, especially her repeated assertions that she was able to do all of the diagnostic work "in her brain". An absence of written work to explain in detail how her decision was reached is a huge red flag.

Also, the definition of "stalking" doesn't require the victim to respond in any particular way. Here's the American Psychological Association's description:

"Stalking refers to repeated harassing or threatening behaviors that an individual engages in such as following a person, appearing at a person’s home or place of business, making harassing phone calls, leaving written messages or objects, or vandalizing a person’s property. These actions may be accompanied by a credible threat of serious harm, and they may or may not be precursors to an assault or murder"

Again, thanks to all of you and of course, much gratitude to Tricia for creating and managing this site.

:welcome5: Thanks for joining us to give your thoughts on the DT experts. Great first post.

 

[Softail]

I just logged in so I don't know if this has been mentioned:

AZRepublic Front Page:
ARIAS WITNESS FEELS SOCIAL MEDIA'S GLARE

Online attacks on defense expert decried as digital "lynch mob"

All this sent her to the hospital last weekend.
Is it witness tampering?
Threats to ALV office and online and Amazon
Possibility of removal of TV cameras.

I would post a link but I don't know how.

Arias trial: Witness feels social media’s glare

Online attacks on defense expert decried as digital ‘lynch mob’


By Michael KieferThe Republic | azcentral.comThu Apr 11, 2013 7:00 AM


For three days this week, a domestic-violence expert witness named Alyce LaViolette held her own against prosecutor Juan Martinez in the Jodi Arias murder trial in Maricopa County Superior Court.

But in cyberspace LaViolette was annihilated.

The Arias case is an international phenomenon, reduced to a parable of good and evil relayed in 140-character Twitter posts. Travis Alexander, the secret lover she killed in 2008, has become a cause célèbre. Arias has become a pariah, and everyone associated with her is considered evil by thousands in the social-media audience.

LaViolette took the stand March 26, hired by the defense to convince the jury that Arias was a victim of abuse from Alexander.

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http://www.azcentral.com/community/...feels-social-medias-glare.html?nclick_check=1

 

[Ricki]

I'm brand new here but have lurked for a long time. I've learned so much from the legal experts and the keen-eyed observers in the JA trial threads. Thanks to all of you!

As a psychologist, I've watched in horror as two of the worst examples of "experts" from my profession have done everything possible to undermine the credibility of the field in front of a national audience. Of course there is always some subjectivity associated with the analysis of human behavior, but adherence to scientific principles can produce reliable and verifiable results. Unfortunately, charlatans can use the language of the field to lend false credibility to almost any opinion.

I'm hesitant to question JM's judgment on any aspect of his cross examination, partly because I thought he was amazing (no notes!?!) but also because I would never want to incur the wrath of his fans here. I am new, after all. Still, he could have hammered ALV on her lack of scientific rigor, especially her repeated assertions that she was able to do all of the diagnostic work "in her brain". An absence of written work to explain in detail how her decision was reached is a huge red flag.

Also, the definition of "stalking" doesn't require the victim to respond in any particular way. Here's the American Psychological Association's description:

"Stalking refers to repeated harassing or threatening behaviors that an individual engages in such as following a person, appearing at a person’s home or place of business, making harassing phone calls, leaving written messages or objects, or vandalizing a person’s property. These actions may be accompanied by a credible threat of serious harm, and they may or may not be precursors to an assault or murder"

Again, thanks to all of you and of course, much gratitude to Tricia for creating and managing this site.

Welcome Nick and thank you. Would love to hear more from you. Would you consider becoming a verified poster? Someone here can direct you how. We have verified attorneys and other professionals, They can give their expert
opinion and yours would be appreciated. :seeya:

 

[Turnadot]

I'm brand new here but have lurked for a long time. I've learned so much from the legal experts and the keen-eyed observers in the JA trial threads. Thanks to all of you!

As a psychologist, I've watched in horror as two of the worst examples of "experts" from my profession have done everything possible to undermine the credibility of the field in front of a national audience. Of course there is always some subjectivity associated with the analysis of human behavior, but adherence to scientific principles can produce reliable and verifiable results. Unfortunately, charlatans can use the language of the field to lend false credibility to almost any opinion.

I'm hesitant to question JM's judgment on any aspect of his cross examination, partly because I thought he was amazing (no notes!?!) but also because I would never want to incur the wrath of his fans here. I am new, after all. Still, he could have hammered ALV on her lack of scientific rigor, especially her repeated assertions that she was able to do all of the diagnostic work "in her brain". An absence of written work to explain in detail how her decision was reached is a huge red flag.

Also, the definition of "stalking" doesn't require the victim to respond in any particular way. Here's the American Psychological Association's description:

"Stalking refers to repeated harassing or threatening behaviors that an individual engages in such as following a person, appearing at a person’s home or place of business, making harassing phone calls, leaving written messages or objects, or vandalizing a person’s property. These actions may be accompanied by a credible threat of serious harm, and they may or may not be precursors to an assault or murder"

Again, thanks to all of you and of course, much gratitude to Tricia for creating and managing this site.

Yeah, I think Martinez is doing a fantastic job, but I agree with you. I thought he was going to hammer her about it when she first said that junk about doing the work in her brain, but he moved on. Maybe he didn't think he needed to go further into it, but I do wish he would have.

 

[ClosArgs]

WHO in God's name is buying that crap????

The same people who bought William Gacy's clown paintings, people more interested in the artist (using that term very loosely) than the art.

 

[nadjatheresa]

This according to the St Vs Jodi Arias FB page
Confirmed - The def. next witness will be the computer expert who verified the phone sex audio.

Oh, no. Does that mean we will have to listen to it AGAIN?

 

[Charterhouse]

Arias trial: Witness feels social media&#8217;s glare

Online attacks on defense expert decried as digital &#8216;lynch mob&#8217;


By Michael KieferThe Republic | azcentral.comThu Apr 11, 2013 7:00 AM


For three days this week, a domestic-violence expert witness named Alyce LaViolette held her own against prosecutor Juan Martinez in the Jodi Arias murder trial in Maricopa County Superior Court.

But in cyberspace LaViolette was annihilated.

The Arias case is an international phenomenon, reduced to a parable of good and evil relayed in 140-character Twitter posts. Travis Alexander, the secret lover she killed in 2008, has become a cause célèbre. Arias has become a pariah, and everyone associated with her is considered evil by thousands in the social-media audience.

LaViolette took the stand March 26, hired by the defense to convince the jury that Arias was a victim of abuse from Alexander.

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http://www.azcentral.com/community/...feels-social-medias-glare.html?nclick_check=1

Thank you, I didn't know how to post a link.

 

[Ricki]

Oh, no. Does that mean we will have to listen to it AGAIN?

I have no idea. I heard there are more tapes so not sure why this person is being recalled. I sure don't want to hear any more sex talk.

 

[nursebeeme]

I just logged in so I don't know if this has been mentioned:

AZRepublic Front Page:
ARIAS WITNESS FEELS SOCIAL MEDIA'S GLARE

Online attacks on defense expert decried as digital "lynch mob"

All this sent her to the hospital last weekend.
Is it witness tampering?
Threats to ALV office and online and Amazon
Possibility of removal of TV cameras.

I would post a link but I don't know how.

http://www.azcentral.com/community/...-trial-witness-feels-social-medias-glare.html

 

[kayice]

Originally Posted by Ricki View Post
This according to the St Vs Jodi Arias FB page
Confirmed - The def. next witness will be the computer expert who verified the phone sex audio.

What a waste of court time.

I wonder if the DT is trying to shore up their spindly case because the PT computer expert might have some dynamite coming up with Jodi hacking, using different ISP addresses where Travis could not possibly have posted on his own account or to other people, namely women.
Just because Jodi says she had Travis' permission to tape doesn't mean it is true.

 

[pip]

Any guess as to how long JW will drag this on? Will we be moving to the next witness today? lease: