trial day 45: the defense continues its case in chief #135

[snowcat]

:clap::yourock::goodpost:

Excellent post and very well said.

She has been doing this for a while ... Jodi's "behavior" and "movements" are very noticeable when the jury goes in and out the courtroom ... And from what I read on the court observation thread here, the jury does NOT look at her :great:

I have noticed that Jodi always takes a "side step" to her left when the jury leaves the room, and you can see her straining her neck at times to "catch their attention" when the jury is filing out ... And she does the same thing when the jury comes in to court -- she strains her neck and follows them very intently, and "side steps" with the flow ...

Now, this is JMO but I don't think she does this to get a juror removed -- she has been doing these movements since day one of the trial when the jury goes in and out ...

No doubt, she is trying to get a juror(s) attention ... JMO ... but she "thinks" that making "eye contact" will "soften up" the juror(s) IF -- IF she has that "eye contact" with them ... KWIM ?

Jodi's has "stepped up" her actions and reactions in the courtroom these past 2 weeks from what I have noticed ...

Jodi has been much more "vocal" while sitting at the defense table ... I have noticed much more facial grimacing from her and a lot more "animation" while she is sitting at the defense table ... she is also interacting a lot more with Willmott -- and IMO, it's like she is telling Willmott what to do :waitasec:

And her "true colors" really came out when Mr. Martinez was doing cross on ALV :furious: she should have been admonished for her facial expressions and outbursts !

And now, that STUN BELT is around her WAIST and NOT her leg, which I find to be very interesting ...

JMO but I think she is a "loose cannon" about to go off any minute ... and that's why they have upped that belt !

:moo:

bbm

If this is a recent change, I wonder if there was something in the confiscated journals that has made authorities more vigilant...

 

[nightwatch]

Ms LaViolettes testimony requires us to enter into a topsy turvy world where the victim is guilty, the abused is the abuser, a genuine female victim of DV always minimizes and conceals the abusive behaviors of her abuser and the physical results of the abuse, while a genuine male victim of an obsessive stalker instantly alerts the authorities to the stalking behaviors and his fear of them.

Over the 44 hours she spent with Arias, and with the several books she bought for her, she - perhaps unwittingly - helped Arias craft this preposterous 'self defence' claim. Sadly, and ironically given her use of fairy tale characters to demonstrate her theories, she failed to notice that the fairy tale Arias came up with - complete with the addition of atmospheric 'fog' - falls apart when applied to real world standards of enquiry and evidence.

The Fantasy: A teeny tiny downtrodden female protagonist 'finally' snaps and 'fights for her life' against the enraged physically powerful, ginormous abusive male antagonist! She struggles with him in a life and death tussle on the floor! He nearly overcomes her, but not wait! She escapes - he pursues! She slows him down with A Gun No One Else Knew Existed, yet still he attacks! A magical fog descends, and she finally overcomes him by use of An Enormous Knife That Happened To Be In The Bathroom.

The Reality: A man is showering while a woman he is intimately familiar with takes some photos of him. The camera records the time each photo was taken. The last photo of him alive shows him sitting in the shower. Less than 3 minutes later the man is on the floor streaming blood, dead or very close to death. The woman moves his body, cleans the scene up a little, and leaves, perhaps with a fresh band aid on one finger.

Strip away everything else and focus on the victim's injuries, the ME's testimony, crime scene, Arias's lack of injuries, and the date stamped photographic evidence she left. What was left behind leaves a pretty clear story about what happened in the three minutes - and even clearer story of what didn't happen - between the last shower photo and the end of the hallway photo.

Arias claims TA got the jump on her and initiated the first assault, but barely even bothered to claim she had any injuries from the supposed 'body slam' or subsequent claimed 'linebacker' events, except for describing the most miraculous recovery from being winded ever. Her claim that her shoulder has 'never been right' since comes with no corroborating reports of her complaining about pain, no evidence of disability or request for treatment for said 'injury' over the last 4 years, and the finger injury she showed Det. Flores, if indeed sustained during the events of June 4th, looked exactly like injuries he had seen knife wielding assailants sustain. Nobody has testified that during the following days/weeks Arias had any bruises or other injuries. Remember this alleged assault on Arias was not the act of a secretive DV abuser, who might well have deliberately inflict blows where they would not be visible, but the act of a powerful, enraged, raging bull who was going to KILL her.

The defensive wounds to TA's hands alone, coupled with the sheer volume & type of other injuries she inflcted on him tell us that from very early during the 3 minutes. he was incapable of either attacking her, and had only limited and temporary ability to defend himself.

From the photos recovered from TA's camera and crime scene pictures, everyone, including the Jury knows the incident was over and done with in no more than 2 minutes, that it began at the point the camera took the first 'accidental' photo, in or close to the shower, (see blood evidence, his not hers), that Travis Alexander was naked and wet when it began, and continued to be naked throughout. His bathrobe is in the crime scene pics, still hanging on the hook right next to the shower, because he didn't have time to put it on, use it to stem blood flow, or use it to attempt a 'fluffy' defense against the knife/gun with it bundled up. Why? Because he was already badly incapacitated both mentally and physically due to the initial assault/attack in or near the shower.

A further early distinguishable, separate injury/'event' (see blood evidence, his not hers) occurred at a LOW level near to the end of the bathtub/toilet cubicle area, indicating TA was already on or close to the floor at the time. At this point he was within a few feet of two sets of bathroom scales. He didn't grab a set and belt her with it. No evidence at either the crime scene or on her person to suggest he slammed her head against the floor, the bathtub, wall, or the toilet room door. He apparently had very little conscious awareness as to what had been done to him/what was happening to him - if he had, he might have locked himself in that toilet cubicle.

Instead, TA made his way to the sink area to check out whatever the hell it was that had happened to him. (I'm going to make a guess here. It was an injury that he could not see, or that he couldn't comprehend even though he could see it, hence the instinctive move towards the mirror to 'check it out'). He may not have even managed to stand to his full height at that sink, but he was there, with his back to her, dripping water from his hair/body in with the blood he was shedding, coughing/spraying.

He wasn't conscious/dangerous enough to then effect any flight, or fight. He didn't grab what looks like a full, quite large (and possibly heavy) glass Cologne bottle from the corner of the vanity unit near to the bathroom closet door and clock her with it; he didn't grab the spray cleaner from the cupboard below and spray it at her/swipe her with it; he didn't grab anything from the bathroom closet, like a towel to bundle to try and defend himself or to throttle/smother her with (no blood spatter in the closet apart from what wicked up the cardboard box); he wasn't strong/conscious enough to punch her lights out, (leaving visible bruising for days/weeks) grab her and smash her head against any part of the vanity unit, bathroom or closet door, twist/break her arm, or pull out a huge chunk of her hair causing her scalp to bleed (leaving visible scabs/bruising for days/weeks).

An alert, conscious, able and especially a rageful person could/would have done any or all of these things but all he actually achieved was a few attempts to grab the knife or deflect the knife with his hands, and turning HIS BACK to her.

There was no time in the two minutes for the closet interlude as described by Arias to occur. There is no evidence whatsoever that any closet interlude occurred during those 2 minutes.

She went on to stab him many, many more times following that initial shower/bathtub phase of her attack: so many times that while the crime scene is awash with blood (all his apart from one print) there are no further 'distinguishable' knife wound blood spatters, IIRC, until the final throat slash near the end of the hallway something like 15 feet away from the sink?

Why? Because the assailant had complete power over the victim. He simply wasn't capable of fleeing her, defending himself or attacking her. That single hair of hers found near the bathroom door would have been a CLUMP if he had pulled it out. She didn't scratch him, or pull his hair out, because she had no need to. She had inflicted a possibly fatal, certainly fatally debilitating injury early, and each successive wound weakened him further through shock, pain, blood loss, damage to tendons/muscle etc. He never got near enough to her to inflict any kind of 'struggle' injuries on her. She only got that close to him after he was incapable of defending himself or inflicting any 'struggle' injuries on her.

The multiple wounds he suffered when his back was turned - whether curled up trying to shield his head/chest, or crawling/dragging himself away from her - are utterly damning. In particular he was no longer capable of moving away from her at a quick enough pace to avoid that telling cluster of nine wounds on his back.

By the time the first of the 'accidental' photographs of TA during the attack were taken, the incident had progressed to the hall the hall. In the first of those phtos, he was down, out, prone on the floor and streaming blood, while she was upright. Yet according to the M.E Arias went on to inflict at least one more fatal type wound (the gun-shot) when he was already dead or close to it. We do not know whether his throat had been cut when the final two accidental pictures were taken. There was a large amount of blood streaming over his shoulder, but remember, he had had been stabbed several times on his front torso, and on the right side of his neck. Those injuries could also have caused the blood streaming we see in the pictures.

By her own account - every single stab wound she inflicted on him, was inflicted after she had shot him in the head. Every. Single. One. And let's imagine her 'fog' lifts and she recalls an epic life or death struggle during which she happens across the Enormous Knife That Happened To Be In The Bathroom, or even manages to wrest it from the hands of her alleged attacker? She can't conjure up retrospective defensive wounds, cuts, bruises, scratches, scalp wounds, broken bones, cracked ribs, or stab wounds to her body, or her blood instead of his all over the scene.

LaViolette helped Jodi Arias craft a fairy tale to try and excuse/explain why she slaughtered Travis Alexander, but nothing except pre-meditation can explain the evidence we have about the two minutes, or the two weapons used.

you spoke for me. thank you!

 

[Ransom]

How long before they return tia

About 30 minutes.

 

[Harmony 2]

New thread open please start jumping on over... this thread will close in 5 minutes.

trial day 45: the defense continues its case in chief #136 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

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[Paintr]

http://kristinarandle.com/blog/jodi-arias-trial-public-backlash-to-alice-laviolettes-testimony/

Another opinion on the backlash directed towards AVL. Very good read.

 

[Sweetiemom]

Where is Napoleon now?lease:

Napoleon is living with Travis' friend Deanna.

 

[magpie]

I would LOVE to see footage of Jodi's rages in jail. There is no question that she does act out in rage--wouldn't that be great to present the jury! Her tantrums are probably very similar to how she was during her murder of Travis.

YES! This is what makes me miss the Sunshine Law in Florida. We got to see the entire visitor tapes with Ms. Anthony's parents/family and in those tapes we saw quite a bit of her "losing it" with her parents. It was quite telling. Not to mention her telling and retelling of her many lies.

 

[Nezumi]

I hope every single question submitted by jurors will end with the sentence, "Yes or no!"ddsmiley:

That would be hilarious! And absolutely appropriate! :floorlaugh:

 

[pinkandgreenmom]

Where is Napoleon now?lease:

with a friend of Travis. Cannot remember her name, though. Sorry. But I recall reading here that the dog is still alive and doing ok (I think the dog is older and has some typical old dog issues like going deaf, losing sight) but being well loved and taken care of.

I'm also behind in the postings so sorry if this is a repeat...

 

[Myvice]

Random hourly testing to make sure it's operative has my vote.

Kinda like a fire drill. I think you're on to something!

 

[Little Mel in ATL]

Anyone have an explanation as to why Travis would continue contact with Jodi after the stalking incidents? I have a few:

1. He second-guessed his fear of her
2. He felt remorse over how he "yelled" at her via text, and wanted to smooth things over
3. He forgave her for what she had done and thought they had come to an understanding
4. He pitied her
5. He felt responsible for her; after all, she had moved out to Mesa to be with him
6. He was addicted to and craved the sexual aspect of the relationship, as he wasn't pursuing sexual contact with any other women

Hey, SamuraiPie! Here are a couple other explanations to consider:

7. Some of the written communication between TA and JA could have been fabricated by JA. Keep in mind she repeatedly hacked into his cellphone, email, and social media accounts.
8. TA was having a hard time finding other women brave enough to date him, and he knew JA would never turn him down. It wasn't long after JA's intrusion into TA's life before other women caught wind of JA's stalking behavior, and were afraid to date TA for fear of having their tires slashed (or worse). :shocked2:

 

[websurfer]

Hope the Jury questions help to make Travis look good the DT sure has not..

 

[Deleted member 95475]

Hi all. Registered today after seeing a call-out to lurkers to join. I'm very obedient. :angel:

Doubt I'll post much because I'm not a chatty cathy, but I'll at least post my opinion of this case. I caught it first on TruTV and got so obsessed with it I found an on-line stream and went in search of a forum to see what others were saying. Initially I wondered what terrible, horrific thing TA did to her to drive her to slaughter him. I was certain he had to have done something really horrific to warrant that kind of overkill. I know better now.

If I were on the jury I would vote Murder 1 and in the guilt phase I would vote for death. Not an act I could carry out myself, but I would vote that way and thank the universe there are people who can do that.

:welcome6:

:greetings:

 

[momtective]

FOX News is now reporting the info about how JA has been getting her messages out via tweets from "a friend" outside.

Glad this info is being mentioned in the media.
The jail needs to be more closely monitoring JA's phone calls.

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2013/04/11/jodi-arias-tweeting-from-jail/

Is this a real account or a parody account?:what:

 

[ctmom]

Has anyone added up the $$$ Ms. ALV has racked up in this case so far? I'm not good at math, but it goes something like this per hour:

$250 per hour for preparing for trial (she testified to 44 hours prep)

$300 per hour for her testimony

Also, I would bet my eye teeth she is getting comped for air flight, hotel room, rental car, all meals while in AZ, etc.

Good Lord, that's a whole lot of money. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ :what:

IMO
As I recall
There were alot of DV experts who turned down this case.
When ALV first got on the stand, she started to say she took it cause she "needed the money".. and there was an objection. She also stated she took a position earlier in career cause she "needed the money".

I bet if someone did a background check on her..
she very well could be in major debt, foreclosure.. who knows..
She took a gamble... For a big payoff...
IMO
She lost.

 

[SunDawnn]

Because people have said that Jodi did not spend time alone with Brewer's son. Or Brewer didn't leave the boy alone with Jodi. Why? Doesn't look good for her. The Hughes told Travis they did not want Jodi around their kids. Why? In other words, they read the blogs. Or perhaps, Jodi has more problems than we realize...wouldn't be the first one to use a camera as cover. She did with Travis.

Parents tend to have that gut reaction of red flags. imho.

I know this is a reach and something not reportedly popular but keeping in mind, we tend to accuse our partners what we ourselves are capable of doing (like cheating or lying etc) so perhaps it is Jodi who is the pedophile or at minimum, liked acting out the child-role in sex.

If you listen to the tape recording which, was clearly a set up to entrap Travis (it was NOT to re-listen at a later date as reported by Jodi!! Give me a break! is a visual not an audible activity) it is Jodi who brings up the pig tail/braids and how SHE says 'that was hot'.

Typically a partner acts out a role or wears a sexy outfit to please the other person not themselves. Usually. But if she's getting off on her own 'role' then perhaps like I said, it is she who likes kids not Travis. And it was perhaps Jodi who introduced photos of young girls (not boys) to Travis (if true) to fine tune her child-role?

Was Jodi's computer ever seized? She did have one, right? If so, I haven't heard anything about it. Does anyone know what was found on it if anything?
I just wonder if she had photos of little girls on there.

 

[cece5300]

Jury questions after lunch. Can you give another calming reminder that it's going to be okay? I had testimony muted but it was brutal following along, more talk of Travis being a pedophile, ALV giving him some credit for probably not being a sociopath... what a gal :furious:

Oh yes ma'am! ALV is full of it. She lost her credibility a long time ago. Her entire testimony is based on hearsay, Jodi's words (which, ha!), and snippets of conversations taken out of context. Oh, and Disney movies. She's a liar, Arias is a liar, together the defense has a jumbled conglomeration of stories while meanwhile, the prosecution and the victim's story remains accurate, static, and unchanging. I don't believe ALV and if I can see she's a liar, I'm hoping the jury can as well. It's a shame because if ALV would have used her powers for good instead of evil, I think she would have made a beautiful witness for the prosecution.

Look at it this way: Jodi made a phone sex tape without Travis permission. She would have saved every shred of evidence to use against him if she had it. If those Spider-Man underwear really existed, she would have kept them. She would have crept through the doggy door under the cloak of darkness and stolen them. But she didnt, because they don't exist. Travis is is not a pedophile, there is not one shred of evidence to support that anywhere, except Jodi's word (which, again, HA!)

It is so hard to be patient, I feel like my blood pressure is suffering just hearing about the defense and their antics, but we still have Juan's rebuttal. He will call a witness who makes perfect sense, has actual credentials, isn't a liar, and won't have a horrible unprofessional attitude.

All we can do is wait patiently for Juan to lay out the evidence and let the truth speak for itself. Hopefully the jury will see it. Ultimately, that's all we can do - hope the jury sees Jodi as the murderer she is. And to be frank, anyone with any sense can see that she clearly is.

 

[websurfer]

..'proving" that she was moving on with her life..->

She was happy she pulled it off with only a hurt finger...:furious:

 

[Chelly]

HLN's Beth Karis is reporting jury basket overflowing with questions.

 

[Deleted member 95475]

Sure hope court starts on time - my guess is 15 minutes late and then start with a sidebar.

:clock: I'm clock watching.... so anxious to get to juror questions!