Trial Discussion Thread #13 - 14.03.25, Day 15

[zwiebel]

It's over. Nel steps down. Roux wants ten mins. Teatime.

 

[Rumpole]

Nel has a real "Gift" ... he can make anything boring.

I don't see much point to all this?

The times of the few critical phone calls could be presented as a 3 or 4 line document.

The movements before the event are not relevant to anything that I can imagine.


I would think "Phone call at 3:19 by OP"... blows State contention of shots at 3:17 away completely?

 

[lisasalinger]

So he's not going to summarize this for us? He's going to leave us with this cliff hanger? Arghhhhhh

 

[kaos]

Nothing further! Didn't think I'd ever agree that the state hasn't proved it's case but unless the last witness is really something special, then I'd have to agree the state hasn't proved it's case.

 

[Forensics]

Brief adjournment while Roux beckons over to Oscar and both looking through the documents.

 

[Mango33]

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 6 mins
Next internet connection at 3.18 and 45 seconds. 75 seconds duration, from #OscarPistorius phone.

Just one minute after the shots ? If correct I don't think it can be at all good for prosecution, unless... "intention" is the name.

Was this a WhatsApp message or other text message, I wonder? And if so, what was it? to who?...

 

[zwiebel]

So OP's phone went walkabout at 8am Feb 14th from OP's house. Who was there then I wonder?

 

[lisasalinger]

I wonder what all that stuff was that they pulled out of their reports handed in to the Judge?

 

[kaos]

I wonder what all that stuff was that they pulled out of their reports handed in to the Judge?

I think I heard Nel say something along the lines of they "didn't add value".

 

[Cher352]

Why would oscar firing the shots and then surfing the internet not be good for the prosecution?.

Could be he was just looking for a phone number of a good defense lawyer.

 

[Rumpole]

So he's not going to summarize this for us? He's going to leave us with this cliff hanger? Arghhhhhh

Nel always leaves a confusing mess... it all makes sense when Roux lays it out and prunes away some of the nonsense....

Though I am not saying that Roux does not do that frustratingly slowly :floorlaugh:

 

[zwiebel]

Why would oscar firing the shots and then surfing the internet not be good for the prosecution?.

I don't think he was surfing. He was communicating with someone via the internet I think. Shame they didn't give more details about these connections.

Unless he was looking for good lawyers...

 

[katydid23]

kind of anticlimactic...:frown:

 

[zwiebel]

Could be he was just looking for a phone number of a good defense lawyer.

Snap! I didn't spot your post when I posted the same!

 

[Forensics]

Barry Bateman says there was surprise in court that Nel didn’t lead Moller through details pertaining to the California trip.

 

[G.bng]

Curiously there is an incoming call on OP's phone from security at 3:21 and an outgoing call to security at 3:21 so unless I am missing something it seems both Baba and defence could be right, albeit without the seconds it is difficult to know for sure.

 

[Danta]

At 3:21 (14th am) and 40 seconds he checked his voicemail.

 

[james83]

Here we go, this could take some time

 

[Gbtaketwo]

Barry Bateman says there was surprise in court that Nel didn’t lead Moller through details pertaining to the California trip.

The California trip ? Was that where they got the extra info on the 5th march ?

 

[zwiebel]

They're back.