Trial Discussion Thread #19 - 14.04.07, Day 17

[zwiebel]

Looks like it's actually a nice, sunny day in SA for a change!

I hope the pathologist being called doesn't mean another day of Oscar's green bucket coming out.

 

[Really?]

eNCA....has nada on screen......Telegraph at least has a live shot outside the court house

 

[Cher352]

Hello everyone, enjoyed the week off.

Let's hope for no more delays.

 

[zwiebel]

eNCA....has nada on screen......Telegraph at least has a live shot outside the court house

Telegraph is the only one I can find with a stream working at the moment. I don't trust it though. It always freezes for me at crucial moments.

It's starting!

 

[MeeBee]

Both assessors in attendance, so looks like we're good to go.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Alex Crawford ‏@AlexCrawfordSky 13 Min.

#oscarPistorius OP is crying, tears rolling down cheeks as he is being comforted by a psychologist

 

[Carol70]

Both assessors in attendance, so looks like we're good to go.

ahh finally!!

I didn't dare call in sick today least everything gets postponed again!

Hope everyone enjoyed the OP rest week last week!

 

[zwiebel]

Jan Botha is up. 'Personal health reasons why he was called first.

 

[Melanie]

Alex Crawford ‏@AlexCrawfordSky 13 Min.

#oscarPistorius OP is crying, tears rolling down cheeks as he is being comforted by a psychologist

OFGS - already! I don't think OP is capable of taking the stand.

 

[whiterum]

At the BH these words of Nel stuck in my head

"She couldn't go anywhere. You can run nowhere. It must have been horrific."

Nel no doubt will give OP a relentless grilling as when Jackie Selebi took the stand he grilled him for 8 days. He is well respected and has prosecuted the biggest cases in SA and it has been said that neither threats, fame or infamy deters him in his quest for justice.

 

[Really?]

Get the puke bucket ready for OP

 

[zwiebel]

Oscar looks bright and alert today, listening intently.

Going through B's work resume now. Registered as a specialist pathologist since 75 and much more.

 

[steveml]

The prosecution is bound by the rules of criminal procedure but at no time, ever, are they required to disclose their case strategy to the defence. Its protected as work product which isn't mandated by discovery.

They did nothing wrong ethically by not disclosing their strategy or even changing theories.

Thanks Kate, I'm aware of the case strategy procedure, although the boundary of state claim / state strategy appears to have been somewhat expanded by the PT.

It is quite normal for the accused to be made aware of the full claims being made against them, these are set out pretrial. Having the entitlement of presumed innocence reinforces the reason for this. Although elements of OP's prosthesis on/off will be used in strategy, the nature of these being on/off was a major part of the claim. This is exactly why Roux objected. It wasn't so much a legal objection, he just felt he had to make this point clear, as it must have annoyed him.

In all fairness the DT have been far more detailed regarding the events than they needed to be. You're absolutely correct, legally the PT did nothing wrong, although I'm sure it would at least appear to be more ethical if they didn't set out to be quite so obstructive.

I agree with the general view in the link below :-

http://mg.co.za/article/2014-03-06-three-days-in-pistorius-prosecution-remains-opaque

My opinion only hun :smile:

 

[zwiebel]

Alex Crawford ‏@AlexCrawfordSky 13 Min.

#oscarPistorius OP is crying, tears rolling down cheeks as he is being comforted by a psychologist

Whaat?? He looks perfectly fine now....

 

[TrueDetective]

Considering the PT pathologist's live testimony was cut I am pleased and surprised that we have the DT's version without censor. Not sure why but lets roll with it.
This could get messy for OP

 

[zwiebel]

Conducting pms is an essential part of his duties. Conducted about 25,000; 6-7,000 of which were shootings.

 

[zwiebel]

R: There was evidence about gastric emptying...

 

[zwiebel]

This is where the previous testimony about the time of Reeva's last meal may well get shredded, I think.

 

[Really?]

Now we will hear all about the digestion of cheese, great

 

[zwiebel]

B: A lot of work was done on this in the past....modern concensus it's a highly controversial, inexact....general concensus, in most people light meal 2-3 hours to be emptied, medium up to 5 hours, heavy meal much longer

Says that there was landmark case in Canada 'Truscott'.