Trial Discussion Thread #33 - 14.05.05 Day 26

[Freya1977]

"I could hear a man shouting"

 

[lisasalinger]

that's what she said.. .

BBM... :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh:

 

[zwiebel]

Tweets and other links.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/oscar-pistorius-trial-live-updates-3497075

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexCrawfordSky

we're back.

 

[kittychi]

that's what she said.. . also. in addition, her dogs were barking, the neighborhoood dogs were barking, she was worried her dogs would get out on the balcony and cause more trouble, she heard this, and thought of the dogs, and were they annoying? was she in trouble, she got back into bed, she felt hot, she felt cold, she was asking herself where this noise is coming from? should she get up again? stay in bed? where are the dogs? shutup dogs, shutup the dogs keep barking, was someone coming up a LADDER into her bedroom? she has to close her doors, her sliding doors, the dogs.

oh my god.

Betcha she heard those gunshots too and knew exactly where they were coming from and knew who cried "help." I think she was in denial.

She is in Oscar Speak mode.

 

[zwiebel]

CS: Lying in bed...I knew there must be terrible trouble - I could hear a man shouting, so was thinking, where's the lady?...

I went to my mom, said I could hear shouts. She said yes, OP phoned your dad, he shot Reeva.

 

[G.bng]

I wish they'd at least put up a photo. Nothing when you search Carice Sander on google for photo.

eta: Oops... well there is a pretty blonde girl with her name.

There is a young blonde attorney with the name on LinkedIn for the Jo'burg area, but I really don't see the importance as it may not be for secrecy that some elect not to be video-ed rather nerves on giving testimony and the way she talks and expressions she uses she sounds very nervous and highly strung to me.

 

[Trooper]

more carise..

I said to Dad.. we have to go. I couldn't get my legs to go.. I got my car out and waited for dad to put his trousers on. .

 

[zwiebel]

She says she then drove to Oscar's house. Roux asks her to look at the same photo again, of the routes to OP's house. She took the red route.

 

[Interested Bystander]

There is a young blonde attorney with the name on LinkedIn for the Jo'burg area, but I really don't see the importance as it may not be for secrecy that some elect not to be video-ed rather nerves on giving testimony and the way she talks and expressions she uses she sounds very nervous and highly strung to me.

Definitely very nervous. One can hear the adrenalin affecting her voice.

 

[zwiebel]

CS: I drove fast, parked the car in the road, turned on the hazards. There were some people in the road, a security guard and Frank....a man who works at Mr P's house.

She says she asked what was wrong but they didn't know.

 

[zwiebel]

She says it took about 3mins to drive to OP's house.

Roux wants to know how long from her hearing the 'help help' to the 3.19 call her dad made. She says about 5 mins.

 

[Suthrnqt]

Very strange Stander inferred they were acquaintances rather than good friends and yet was asked to Reeva's private memorial at "uncle Pistorius's" house.

Good point.

 

[shane13]

Betcha she heard those gunshots too and knew exactly where they were coming from and knew who cried "help." I think she was in denial.

She is in Oscar Speak mode.

And in Oscar-world--which is a hole 'nother matter.

 

[Freya1977]

Will I get in trouble if I post this?

http://www.trphoto.co.za/around-the-world-carice-2/

 

[Trooper]

that morning. we took the red route on your map. its the quickest route. we proceeded to Oscars house. we drove I drove rather fast. I parked the car in the road. we jumped out of the car. there were some people in front of the house in the road.. it was the security guards. frank was the gentleman that worked at Oscars house..

roux. how long was it from when you spoke to your mother, until you arrived??

carise. about 3 minutes. I think yes.

Roux. the shouting of help help. how long was that before you spoke to your mother?

Carise.. I have to work it out in my mind. ntil the dog barked, and me lying in bed worrying about what to do. about 5 mins. ?

Roux. so. you saw frank. ( and I presume Baba) .

Car.. yes. then I saw the miniminor. I parked in the street we jumped out. we asked what was going on. Dad was going fast to Oscars front door. the door was very slightly open , I touched it, it opened immed. . I walked in. first thing I saw Oscar carrying Reeva down the second flight. from the landing, down the stairs. where the stairs turn direction.

milady. I went into the house. seeing Oscar carring revva down, he was walking fast, I was walking fast.. dad was walking fast. Oscar said, can you get her in the car get her to hospital. I said no *( she is crying ). I said no, just put her down put er down, he was crying.

Judge tell s her to stop and compose herself.

 

[zwiebel]

She drives a silver mini.

CS: We asked the people in the road what's going on, they didn't know....front door was very very slightly open. I opened the door, first thing I saw was OP carring Reeva down the stairs...the second landing....he was walking rather fast....from the second he saw us he was frantic...he just wanted to get her to hospital, I said just put her down, just put her down....

She is breaking down but does not want to stop. Says she promises she will be fine. Is sorry.

 

[G.bng]

She sounds super nervous!

Interesting that when she said she heard a voice yelling for help (3x), Roux did not ask her if the voice sounded like a man or a woman, nor did she specify.

Listen to the video again later because she said she heard a man calling help, even clarified she had wondered if the man was calling out what could have happened to the woman.

 

[zwiebel]

CS: He said Carise, please, can we put her in the car, take her to hospital. I said just put her down so we can see what's wrong. There was blood everywhere...

 

[Jim Kirk]

Eugh. I wish the Judge would tell her to compose herself and SLOW THE HELL DOWN!

I hope the clerks taking minutes are getting a bonus.

 

[zwiebel]

She knelt one side of Reeva, OP knelt other, Dada went outside to call ambulance.

'I remember it was rather dark' when she rushed upstairs to get towels.