Trial Discussion Thread #36 - 14.05.09 Day 29

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  • #461
W now explaining he did not bring that first report because ballistics is 'not an empirical science' and he has amended things and amended his poor English etc....'The first time I went to the crime scene the door was not even there....the book rack was moved. There were books taken out of the rack and put in blood....we couldn't come to any conclusion at first.

bbm - There we go, I was waiting for that to be mentioned.
 
  • #462
Oh finally! They showed an overhead shot of door with poles and I see what Nel's going on about. He says that standing right by the door, with framing walls on either side, Reeva could not have fallen forward there as she would have hit her head on one wall.

W says there was room for her to go forward but 'Milady, we will never know what happened behind that door'.
 
  • #463
W: the deceased was not sitting on the toilet when the shots were fired.
 
  • #464
I have to take a short break to gaze upon the lovely face of Mungeena..


Oddly, I am strangely attracted to Van Rensburg , too.. perhaps I need a jolt of coffee

Where is Mungeena located in the court room? The one Wollie has respect for? I didn't see any testimony toward the beginning so I missed his. Thanks.
 
  • #465
As Woolie is describing Reeva's hip being "totally destroyed by those black talon bullets", Nel gives a wide smirk either towards his team or Mangena.
 
  • #466
OP's finding this interesting. He looks really scary and I'd be afraid of him. If he looks like this in court, imagine how he'd look when he's losing his temper.
 
  • #467
For first time W is speaking with clarity - basically, the only evidence they have is Reeva's pants being pulled up, tile damage and wood splinters around her bullet wounds; 'That's what we have to base our story around'.
 
  • #468
Hey OP, no crying, ear plugging or puking today with all this descriptive language about how you shot and killed your beloved?? I can't believe how he's just sitting there so dispassionately... someone must've told him to lay off the histrionics.
 
  • #469
OP still writing notes I think....
 
  • #470
Love that shot with Mangena bottom left, Nel in the middle an O P top right...
 
  • #471
Roux was very brusque and short with Woll. And it made Woll more nervous. So Nel is being patient and respectful, for now anyway. And they are finding common ground with the state's case.

I loved the little smile Nel gave when Wollie crossed to the door to make a point. Almost an acceptance of Wollie's age and confusion, just as a son might do.
 
  • #472
Where is Mungeena located in the court room? The one Wollie has respect for? I didn't see any testimony toward the beginning so I missed his. Thanks.

see Nels.. Mungeena is directly to his left. he is facing the camera .. a big well built ( we know he is well built coz we saw him on the stand) .. he is a shiny shiny man.. his skull glows.. he is wearing a spffy charcoal suit with white shirt and striped blue and white tie..
 
  • #473
Hey OP, no crying, ear plugging or puking today with all this descriptive language about how you shot and killed your beloved?? I can't believe how he's just sitting there so dispassionately... someone must've told him to lay off the histrionics.

I think it's a case of the Lisa Lisas.
 
  • #474
I have to take a short break to gaze upon the lovely face of Mungeena..


Oddly, I am strangely attracted to Van Rensburg , too.. perhaps I need a jolt of coffee

<------Passes Trooper a poptart to go with the coffee.------->
 
  • #475
Where is Mungeena located in the court room? The one Wollie has respect for? I didn't see any testimony toward the beginning so I missed his. Thanks.

He's to Nel's right hand side but our left on the screen.
 
  • #476
I agree what he just said, there are facts, bullets, fragments, splinters, etc. and experts with different opinions.
 
  • #477
see Nels.. Mungeena is directly to his left. he is facing the camera .. a big well built ( we know he is well built coz we saw him on the stand) .. he is a shiny shiny man.. his skull glows.. he is wearing a spffy charcoal suit with white shirt and striped blue and white tie..

Or to put it more simply.... That sexy black dude :P
 
  • #478
W just showed with his own body, how Reeva's right arm may have been swinging uselessly by her side, she was already shot in the hip and falling back with her left hand coming up to her face, with face still facing the door. Then final bullets hit the web of her finger and next one her head,

nel says it's impossible. She couldn't have ended up by the toilet then, and blood patterns there show her head was already by the toilet when she was shot in the head.

Doesn't that scenario W just gave contradict what he earlier said he thought happened?
 
  • #479
W is banging the desk now. I think he is a bit distressed.
 
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