Trial Discussion Thread #37 - 14.05.12 Day 30

[ColonelMustard]

V: In a way, his strict diet and training helped alleviate his anxiety, but at the same time the increasing media exposure meant he had to be more careful...

Teattime

Seems the summary of that was, OP traumatized by operation and then made fearful by;
Inadequate parenting
Loss of mother
Trying to appear normal
Trying to maintain success and cope with media

In his case, it was a lethal mix (for Reeva).

 

[patCee]

OP more careful due to his media reputation. He might have been anxious about it, but that didn't stop him behaving recklessly/dangerously. He was only anxious about getting caught.

 

[Trooper]

I'd reckon Judge Masipas early life would put Oscars in the shade for hard times..she grew up in apartheid days, when life for her would have been truly oppressive and frightening.

 

[DebinGA]

I wonder how OP's driving over 155 mpr on wet roads and shooting a gun inside a moving car fits in with his AD?

 

[Trooper]

scuse me but is it teabreak or a quick adjourn.??? I need to get some tea, and some sort of thuthtenanth..

 

[zwiebel]

oh I 've got more anxiety disorder than Oscar. I even make my dog close her kennel door.

I think my dog must have his own disorder. He feels compelled to close all open shopping bags, and make groups of people all walk together, whether they know each other or not.

In bars or restaurants, he always heads for the table with the nearest blonde lady and pretends he doesn't know me and is a poor lost dog.

ETA: Yes, I know it's shocking, but dogs are allowed in many eating establishments here!

 

[JudgeJudi]

ok, read MERYL VORSTER for my ridiculous Neal Forster. hehe.

We all do it. :floorlaugh: Makes you feel like a right dill.

 

[Gryffindor]

If he cut ties with his dad many moons ago, then the ammo in the safe is likely not his dad's???

 

[Budgie]

I'd reckon Judge Masipas early life would put Oscars in the shade for hard times..she grew up in apartheid days, when life for her would have been truly oppressive and frightening.

And she was goaled in her twenties when she was a young jurno....Her and her collegues did it really tough back in those days.

 

[DebinGA]

It must have been very anxiety producing to always have to appear in public to be a smiling, pleasant chap when he was really a selfish, arrogant sob.

 

[Forensics]

This is worth a read in the break. Anxiety disorders are often associated with other disorders.

Anxiety disorder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yes, in my opinion he also has narcissistic personality disorder.

 

[K.T]

The psychiatrist discusses his very operation to remove the lower part of his legs as a toddler:

Dr. V: He was not be able to be soothed, or comforted by his mother, as he was too young. So, this would have been conceived by the toddler as traumatic assault.

Dr V: He was encouraged to behave as normal as possible. He was never restricted from participating in any form of physical activity.

Roux: Is there any significance to be encouraged to appear as normal as possible? In this matter?

Dr. V: He was never able to be allowed to be seen as disabled. He was always encouraged to be seen as being normal.

Roux: Is there any relevance to anxiety?

DR V: Yes, over time this could result in increasing levels of anxiety as the stress as the stress of appearing normal continues. I do discuss this later on in the discussion.

His mother seemed to be the primary parental figure…His father was an irresponsible and mostly absent parent.

....

Dr V: He has an anxiety disorder.

Right now, lots of studies come to mind about how common is a primary figure of a mother, next to the absent, problematic father in cases about men who commit violence towards women and their partners. But every study shows that commonalities in background about parents should not outweigh the individual choices of the perpetrators.

I hope they finally get an expert who can talk about the important psychology of partner homicide, gun behaviour and how that effects the actions of perpetrators. Particularly in that remorse of an accused is often part of the cycle of violent or controlling behavior.

Also like to hear about narcissism and dysfunction around disordered individuals and the pressures of fame.

 

[Gryffindor]

I think my dog must have his own disorder. He feels compelled to close all open shopping bags, and make groups of people all walk together, whether they know each other or not.

In bars or restaurants, he always heads for the table with the nearest blonde lady and pretends he doesn't know me and is a poor lost dog.

ETA: Yes, I know it's shocking, but dogs are allowed in many eating establishments here!

I think that's great they allow dogs in :-D Where there are dogs, it's always a nicer place ;-)

 

[zwiebel]

I wonder how OP's driving over 155 mpr on wet roads and shooting a gun inside a moving car fits in with his AD?

Well, I can think of a serious psychiatric disorder that fits with that kind of extremely reckless behaviour, but it's not AD.....

 

[Budgie]

Whilst we are in a teabreak...anyone else having problems with the Thanks button?

 

[Trooper]

:floorlaugh:

I think my dog must have his own disorder. He feels compelled to close all open shopping bags, and make groups of people all walk together, whether they know each other or not.

In bars or restaurants, he always heads for the table with the nearest blonde lady and pretends he doesn't know me and is a poor lost dog.

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[bloodmeridian]

Here is an article from Dr V:

http://www.sajp.org.za/index.php/saj...e/view/380/332

 

[kaos]

Yes, in my opinion he also has narcissistic personality disorder.

I'd be willing to bet narcissism isn't mentioned anywhere in her reports though.

 

[Interested Bystander]

A case that Dr Vorster had input to. Make of it what you will.

http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-afr...m-1.270428?ot=inmsa.ArticlePrintPageLayout.ot

 

[bloodmeridian]

Here is an article from Dr V:

http://www.sajp.org.za/index.php/saj...e/view/380/332

Ok, that didn't work! Still don't know how to post a link??? :scared: