Trial Discussion Thread #45 - 14.07.3, Day 36

[Interested Bystander]

re BIB :

DT : Thank you for being a witness, doctor. We're still looking for a psychiatrist to state that Oscar has some form of anxiety disorder but we'll hopefully find one soon so anything you can come up with along that line would be great...
And, obviously, try to tie it in with his disability...
Oh, and, um, things haven't been going so well for him lately so if you can sound learned and convincing that would be great. Maybe coin together a new medical term and add some pointless data.

Dr D : Don't worry, I am very very clever and I have a 57 page CV. There's no way Nel will be able to unsettle ME!

LOL. Interestingly I followed his claim to be a Fellow of FIMS. On their website they list all current Fellows and his name doesn't appear. However, it could be that he has been erroneously omitted or that the page has not been updated from earlier this year. He would be rather silly to claim that he is a Fellow if he is not.

 

[Suthrnqt]

Marking my spot....

 

[Feynman]

Were the 4 witnesses to a woman's screams all mistaken or lying ?

Let's try to keep things straight. You wrote "we know the magazine rack never moved so in actual FACT............there was NO sound at all." I pointed out that we do not know that. I responded to that and that only.

 

[Interested Bystander]

Testing!

 

[Cherwell]

even if its common, I don't know a single woman who wouldn't be repelled(?) by the fact that her partner is watching while she is at home.

Repelled is quite strong. Some people are very straight-laced, of course. I've known women who disapprove for various reasons, women who regard it as just something blokes do, women who tolerate or even encourage it because it has a good effect on their man :wink: We're all different.

 

[Chelly]

even if its common, I don't know a single woman who wouldn't be repelled(?) by the fact that her partner is watching while she is at home.

Near the start of the trial, I suggested an argument between Reeva and OP may have developed due to OP's viewing while Reeva was visiting. I was told that young people today of both sexes consider "no big deal" and probably not worthy of an argument.

 

[Chelly]

:waitasec:

 

[atthelake]

Marking spot on new server

Sent from my SCH-S720C using Tapatalk 2

 

[MeeBee]

I'm not sure that's what people were saying. It's not at people don't argue about or that it doesn't bother some women, of course it does. What people were saying was that watching , any time, whether your girlfriend is in the house or not, is not a sign of OP or anyone being a terrible or evil person, as others were saying. It's dumb and probably not right. But not, IMO, a condemnable, horrible act. He's a guy. That's what guys do. Now, did it lead to an argument? Sure, it's possible. And personally, it doesn't bother me. My husband watches . I don't really care.

 

[eimajjjj]

I'm having a great time looping over and over Nel's surprise and satisfaction of a defence witness testifying that OP shot to kill.

"To nullify any threat"

See 41:40 @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz1cAlaQqRU a few times. The backbench gets scribbling immediately. Job done.

 

[geevee]

I'm only on April 14th of Nel's cross of Oscar, Nels has already inquired (or 'tested') OP's version of events several times but he hasn't yet asked OP why and how, if he was sleeping on the left of the bed, that his legs are on the right near the balcony doors/fans, along with his iPad (which he did ask about and was told Reeva probably put that there once he went to sleep). Does Nels ever ask him about his legs?

 

[MeeBee]

I'm only on April 14th of Nel's cross of Oscar, Nels has already inquired (or 'tested') OP's version of events several times but he hasn't yet asked OP why and how, if he was sleeping on the left of the bed, that his legs are on the right near the balcony doors/fans, along with his iPad (which he did ask about and was told Reeva probably put that there once he went to sleep). Does Nels ever ask him about his legs?

He definitely does.

ETA: I don't remember properly if he asks him about the legs. But he does test what side if the bed he was one pretty thoroughly.

ETA Again: I'm pretty sure he does ask about the legs. OP says he was letting them air out, IIRC.

 

[geevee]

He definitely does.

Good, I've been waiting and waiting. lol

I mentioned yesterday about the small fan and the debate over the length of its cord, they've also had a debate over the length of the tripod fan's cord, but so far not much about the "5 meter long" extension cord (which of course couldn't be, as AJ DS pointed out recently).

I suppose there was discussion here about the photo where it appears the small fan's cord is under the corner of the speaker? I know I'm going over ground that's long been covered but I'm not able to watch real time streaming of this and before now, couldn't YouTube the sessions so am now getting all caught up, so please forgive if I'm annoying anyone.

 

[MeeBee]

Good, I've been waiting and waiting. lol

I mentioned yesterday about the small fan and the debate over the length of its cord, they've also had a debate over the length of the tripod fan's cord, but so far not much about the "5 meter long" extension cord (which of course couldn't be, as AJ DS pointed out recently).

I suppose there was discussion here about the photo where it appears the small fan's cord is under the corner of the speaker? I know I'm going over ground that's long been covered but I'm not able to watch real time streaming of this and before now, couldn't YouTube the sessions so am now getting all caught up, so please forgive if I'm annoying anyone.

I do remember a conversation and cross examination regarding the cord being under the speak, the length of cord, etc. it's kind of foggy now, for me. I'm probably not helping much but I did add an ETA to my other post,if that means anything. Good to see you here, geevee!

 

[foxbluff]

I'm not sure that's what people were saying. It's not at people don't argue about or that it doesn't bother some women, of course it does. What people were saying was that watching , any time, whether your girlfriend is in the house or not, is not a sign of OP or anyone being a terrible or evil person, as others were saying. It's dumb and probably not right. But not, IMO, a condemnable, horrible act. He's a guy. That's what guys do. Now, did it lead to an argument? Sure, it's possible. And personally, it doesn't bother me. My husband watches . I don't really care.

I agree. IMHO, I've always considered that they may very well have been watching together.

 

[geevee]

I do remember a conversation and cross examination regarding the cord being under the speak, the length of cord, etc. it's kind of foggy now, for me. I'm probably not helping much but I did add an ETA to my other post,if that means anything. Good to see you here, geevee!

Good to see you too, MeeBee! I hope they return to the fan cord under the speaker, that's pretty critical and so far all OP has said is it's not true, it only looks like that in the shown photo.

I really want to know his explanation of why his legs are on the other side of the bed, he put them there and then crawled over Reeva on the bed, or walked on his stumps around the bed to the side he usually doesn't sleep on?

 

[foxbluff]

O/T - Am I the only one who logged onbrd today and found a new format??? One thing is for sure... which is good to say given that few things are... I love this format !!

 

[Viper]

Is there a mobile device viewing option? I could not find it in the user CP. I'm going to go blind reading here, I cannot even see the names of the posters! LOL!!!

 

[MeeBee]

Good to see you too, MeeBee! I hope they return to the fan cord under the speaker, that's pretty critical and so far all OP has said is it's not true, it only looks like that in the shown photo.

I really want to know his explanation of why his legs are on the other side of the bed, he put them there and then crawled over Reeva on the bed, or walked on his stumps around the bed to the side he usually doesn't sleep on?

I'm not sure, but was he sleeping on the balcony side or the other side? I remember him saying something about airing his legs out by the open balcony doors while he slept. In thought he was also sleeping on the balcony side but this part has got me all over her place.

 

[MeeBee]

O/T - Am I the only one who logged onbrd today and found a new format??? One thing is for sure... which is good to say given that few things are... I love this format !!

Yes, they updated the software or something. It's throwing me for a loop, though. My eyes need to time to adjust to this.