Trial Discussion Thread #46 - 14.07.7, Day 37

[PrimeSuspect]

Nel sounds angry. :scared:

 

[Greater Than]

So no one is disputing OP ran on his stumps. :floorlaugh:

 

[JudgeJudi]

Masipa is indebted to counsel. Please proceed.

 

[zwiebel]

N: Let's deal with what your report is not - not forensic, not culpability?

Derman agrees it's not.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Good morning to all WSs! My time as Oscar's: 09:52.

 

[JudgeJudi]

Nel wants to refer Derman to the record. Refers to bail application re Divaris and Greyvenstein.

 

[Marfa Lights]

I had to go to whoopwhoop.tv/pistorius2.htm to get a live feed

 

[ColonelMustard]

IMHO Oldwage is pompous, ponderous, and tedious. He drives me NUTS!

He's a confused mess, he confuses everyone else, and he is self-described as hard of hearing. I watched Thursday 3 times today and Oldwage is wrong. He's wrong today and he was wrong then. He's the one who keeps throwing curve balls.

Even though they just GOT the actual record Oldwage said he'll just use the defense copy. I knew THEN that he was going to screw it up. He did.

 

[zwiebel]

N: Have you had access to records over weekend?

D: Yes, counsel sent it to me over the weekend.

 

[minor4th]

Everyone seems really on edge this morning in the court room :lol:

 

[JudgeJudi]

Nel wants to know what record was referred to him by counsel.

 

[JudgeJudi]

Nel says it's not in the bail application.

 

[minor4th]

Nel is a little off his game - I don't think he likes Mondays

 

[JudgeJudi]

It's not in the statements attached to the bail records. You are wrong. Where did you get it from.

 

[Chelly]

Nel: "You are Wrong"

 

[zwiebel]

Nel says the info Derman said he read in the bail application isn't there.

N: In your mind you were given the bail appli?....I put to you it's not in it. You are wrong.

D: I have the doc with me-

N: You refer to STATEMENTS. I find it strange....

D: Milady, that's just what I was told.

 

[JudgeJudi]

Derwent said it was the bail application.

Nel: It's strange that it wasn't corrected when you gave your evidence.

 

[G.bng]

Good morning again.

OMG - these lawyers are so horrible and explaining what they are arguing about. The judge must be completely perplexed

Your right. IMO Oldwage had a fair point, (now even more evident since Nel has tantamount to accepted he could have been more clear before forcing poor Masipa to have to go back through the record), but oh my how badly and long-windedly he explains himself.

 

[zwiebel]

D: I believe my report and my being here is as objective as can be.

N: But we know your brief was very subjective...

 

[JudgeJudi]

Nel: You don't think there's conflict of interest.
Derwent: He acknowledges he's treating physician and backed up what he said with scientific evidence.