Trial Discussion Thread #49 - 14.08.7, Day 39 ~final arguments~

[zwiebel]

Roux is trying to unravel the impression here that OP gave that police conspired against him. Roux's just saying, they were inept, not malicious.....

 

[Greater Than]

I'm way behind, but "anxiety on call" made me literally laugh out loud :floorlaugh:

 

[zwiebel]

Roux: there's a photo where multiplug was moved. We will show you that photo

 

[zwiebel]

Roux is repeating, 'We will show photos' of stuff that was moved. Several times.

 

[zwiebel]

Now onto bloodcurdling screaming.

R: Interpreter said 'I woke up'. That's not correct. Witness said 'I got up'. (talking about witness who heard argument around 1am and put pillow over her head)

 

[zwiebel]

Restaurant shot now

Roux: Oscar did say 'I'm so sorry. I don't know how it went off'. That was the evidence of Larena.

 

[04009margaret]

How does Roux get away with saying that the state doesn't have a given right to rebut the defence heads of arguement, but then goes on to rebut the states heads of arguement before even addressing his own......

 

[zwiebel]

Roux now arguing about animus and OP having ammo in safe without permit. Says nothing says owner must keep ammo in own safe.

Not sure, but did OP dad just get thrown under bus there? Prosecute him, not OP?

 

[zwiebel]

Roux says evidence of Reeva standing in front if door screaming, "Can't be reconciled".

Also says if they were downstairs eating, as state says, doesn't reconcile with duvet being thrown on the floor in bedroom.

 

[Val1]

I don't think I can handle listening to this... blame everyone but OP again. As for all these allegations that Roux is making against the police, "where's the beef?", can he actually keep making all these claims when he never came forth with any evidence proving it during the trial?

 

[Lochlynsmom]

Roux now arguing about animus and OP having ammo in safe without permit. Says nothing says owner must keep ammo in own safe.
Not sure, but did OP dad just get thrown under bus there? Prosecute him, not OP?

BBM-this is his legal argument...oh boy lol!

 

[G.bng]

Defence's heads of argument in pdf format
http://oscarpistorius.com/downloads/Oscar-Pistorius-Heads-of-Argument.pdf

 

[zwiebel]

Roux says state had to move events to account for sounds of bat and shots.

"We all agree the second sound was the bat.....if the 3.17 was the shots, when would accused have had time to do all he was supposed to? State just ignored that...

Roux doing an awful lot of 'we will prove/show' again. Hope judge is keeping notes.

 

[LaLaw2000]

Yes, it is difficult to hear Roux more or less saying that OP is so innocent and the State is lying and twisting the facts of the case. I just have to keep OP's own testimony in mind during this.

 

[zwiebel]

It is disingenous for Roux to just waste this half hour he did not want, listing what he WILL do/show/say. Shouldn't be allowed, imo.

 

[zwiebel]

Roux: Mr Stipp appears to be quite an impressive witness..

 

[Giles]

It is disingenous for Roux to just waste this half hour he did not want, listing what he WILL do/show/say. Shouldn't be allowed, imo.

Nel did the same thing at the beginning of his closing...

 

[zwiebel]

Roux: Once you measure difference between known facts.....objective evidence, there's a difference between reliable evidence and credibility....

Roux stands down till morning.

 

[atthelake]

Changing over to http://whoopwhoop.tv/pistoriusradio.htm now! Thanks for keeping up as I fell asleep for an hour lol

 

[atthelake]

Zwiebel - set your phone alarm tomorrow and don't depend on DH :blush: