Trial Discussion Thread #51 - 14.11.9, Day 41 ~announcement of the verdict~

[ColonelMustard]

Peculiar means to me - lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies... all lies.

conjecture? not if you believe bloodcurdling screams. That witness was SOOOOOOOOOOO believable.

 

[minor4th]

Even if accused gives an explanation that is improbable - court also has to conclude that it is proved beyond a reasonable doubt that it is false

 

[K.T]

"However what we are dealing with the accused was amongsts other things an evasive witness.

In my view there are a few reasons for this:

- he failed to listen to questions

-Often a question which could have a straightforward response became a debate
-he often blamed the defense for his response
- Caution must be exercised and courts should avoid attaching too much weight to the truthfulness"

Judge cautions this evasiveness may not be because of his guilt but...

"The deceased died in a very peculiar circumstance."

 

[zwiebel]

J: Any doubt, he's entitled to acquital. Onus on state to prove guilt

 

[K.T]

"However what we are dealing with the accused was amongst other things an evasive witness.

In my view there are a few reasons for this:

- he failed to listen to questions

-Often a question which could have a straightforward response became a debate
-he often blamed the defense for his response
- Caution must be exercised and courts should avoid attaching too much weight to the truthfulness"

Judge cautions this evasiveness may not be because of his guilt but...

"The deceased died in a very peculiar circumstance."

 

[katydid23]

Credibility of accused is important but court should be cautious when attaching too much importance - cannot conclude that because he was not credible he must be guilty.

She is backtracking again...:back:

 

[ColonelMustard]

Peculiar means to me - lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies... all lies.

Conjecture? not if you believe bloodcurdling screams. That witness was SOOOOOOOOOOO believable.

 

[zwiebel]

J: Count one, evidence purely circumstantial

 

[minor4th]

In order to find guilt in circumstantial case, court must rule out every other possible explanation

 

[sleuth-d-]

here we go...

 

[K.T]

"However what we are dealing with the accused was amongsts other things an evasive witness.

In my view there are a few reasons for this:

- he failed to listen to questions

-Often a question which could have a straightforward response became a debate
-he often blamed the defense for his response
- Caution must be exercised and courts should avoid attaching too much weight to the truthfulness"

Judge cautions this evasiveness may not be because of his guilt but...

"The deceased died in a very peculiar circumstance."

 

[minor4th]

State failed to establish that OP killed with direct intention, much less premeditation

 

[PrimeSuspect]

timelines tip scale in favour of accused...

 

[zwiebel]

J: ...tips the scale in favor of the accused, in general...state has NOT proved accused guiltyof premeditated murder

 

[atthelake]

rut roh...I'm losssssssssssst on this???

 

[soozieqtips]

5 minute break

 

[HauntsForHope]

No premeditation. Not guilty of murder 1.

 

[minor4th]

Oh geez, 5 minute break

 

[PrimeSuspect]

5 minute break

 

[zwiebel]

J:...defense, 'transferred malice' submission ???

Nd now she is soeaking Greek and, thank heaven, whisper and a break....