Trial Discussion Thread #58 - 14.17.10, Day 47 ~ sentencing~

[Cloen]

In the world of crime, guilty people can (but rarely) literally get away with murder if they "roll over" and testify for the state against a much bigger fish, in this case Jackie Selebi, the national police commissioner at the time. The deal was brokered by Nel. Immunity from prosecution is not uncommon regarding drug dealers because they're on the lower end of the food chain so to speak and police are always trying to catch the importers or main players. If they're not given immunity, it's even more common for them to be given what is commonly called a "letter of comfort". This letter is provided by a law enforcement agency to enable an accused to get a lesser sentence because they have assisted the police. It would be a huge win for the NPA to convict the national police commissioner.

I haven't seen anyone else post anything on Mark Strydom, the person who it appears actually mouthed the words **** you to Aimee, not Schultz, so here's something to read while things are a little bit quiet.

Published on August 4, 2000

"One of the most notorious thugs in Johannesburg's southern suburbs says he has found God and given up his violent ways - but police and some of his victims aren't convinced.

Strydom has been out on bail on five previous occasions, and each time he was rearrested on counts of intimidation or assault. These cases are still pending.

Strydom's previous charges include fraud, assault, intimidation and pointing a firearm.

"He is a totally changed creature. He has accepted the Lord and is now counselling drug addicts and prostitutes," said Walter-Girout.

"I am so convinced of his change that I am willing to go to jail if he fails. It is just a matter of time before people realise this change," he added.

There's plenty more in this link.

http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-afr...rd-1.46084?ot=inmsa.ArticlePrintPageLayout.ot

Here's more on Mikey Schultz and the incident in court.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/16/oscar-pistorius-family-court-dispute-mikey-schultz

I have a feeling that given the opportunity Oscar and his brother will have the heavies you've mentioned targetting them - I think they will both have to be looking over their shoulders for a VERY long time !!! Even moreso since the press wrote about them having OP's phone wiped clean of data and not handing it in to police until the Bail Hearing...........there are MANY scores to settle arn't there and these guys don't sound like they mess around.The fact that Oscar's now killed someone, puts him in the same moral , or rather immoral bracket as Schultz doesn't it !

And perhaps Schultz can claim 'accident' or 'mistake' when either he or others use a firearm anywhere that OP or his brother are !!
Nightclub brawls will be a place anything can happen............for example.............and I don't think OP or his brother will stay away from nightclubs forever do you ??? just saying..............

 

[vansleuths]

If she gives him any prison time, say 8 years, he can apply for parole after serving half the sentence, so he could be out in 4.

If she gives him, say 8 years with 4 suspended, that would mean he'd serve 4 years, get out of prison, but if he reoffends during the next 4 years, he'd have to go back to prison and serve out the remainder of his sentence.

Gosh, by the time we're finished with this trial I think I'll put a brass plate out the front of the house and charge visitors to walk in the door.

:floorlaugh:

BIB, in this scenario, with an original 8 year sentence, 4 years suspended, 4 years would be real jail time, but out in 2 with good behaviour.

 

[Estelle]

I have a feeling that given the opportunity Oscar and his brother will have the heavies you've mentioned targetting them - I think they will both have to be looking over their shoulders for a VERY long time !!! Even moreso since the press wrote about them having OP's phone wiped clean of data and not handing it in to police until the Bail Hearing...........there are MANY scores to settle arn't there and these guys don't sound like they mess around.The fact that Oscar's now killed someone, puts him in the same moral , or rather immoral bracket as Schultz doesn't it !

And perhaps Schultz can claim 'accident' or 'mistake' when either he or others use a firearm anywhere that OP or his brother are !!
Nightclub brawls will be a place anything can happen............for example.............and I don't think OP or his brother will stay away from nightclubs forever do you ??? just saying..............

Where will Oscar Pistorius be without his guns now?

 

[Estelle]

Oscar Pistorius has had 30% of the limelight taken away from him by Mikey Schultz

“Schultz stormed onto the chart yesterday with a whopping 30% of the Oscar coverage,” said Return on Innovation Africa (ROI) managing director Tonya Khoury today.

Khoury, meanwhile, said its figures show the public and the media across the globe were rife with speculation on the outcome of Pistorius’ sentencing.

“By an enormous majority, social networks particularly are calling for jail time,” she said.

According to a graph, ROI determined that 65.5% of people wanted Pistorius to be jailed, and 18.58% wanted him to get house arrest.

Another 9.76% of people wanted Pistorius to be given community service, and 6.15% wanted him to be fined.

http://www.citypress.co.za/news/mikey-schultz-steals-oscar-pistorius-spotlight/

 

[luvmygarden]

Does anyone think that in prison OP will become a model inmate or will he continue to be the Victim? I wonder if all his rage was because he truly isnt a driven by success individual. He wanted the fame and glory being number 1 when he found others were just as wonderful he couldn't handle it. If he was so driven he would have continued to work out through all this and wouldnt have turned into a victim in his own mind. Reeva was rising in her life and career and that is something he can't tolerate no matter who it is. For the defense to say now he is a victim that is true. He has gained success by playing victim all his career. That has been his calling card for so long. He proves it by saying he wasn't disabled while competing but now he can't survive when his strength and character matter. I dont give OP any points for Character. If he stays out of prison Uncle and clan will have to go it alone with this guy. They all relied on his handlers to manage his issues. Good Luck Family u may get more than u bargained for......

 

[Estelle]

Later City Press printed this:

The weird world of politics: Take the mickey

On Thursday, South Africa proved once again that it’s almost certainly the funniest country on Earth.

Self-confessed killer Mikey Schultz, who did away with magnate and ANC pal Brett Kebble, strutted into the North Gauteng High Court to let Oscar *Pistorius know who was boss, bru.

http://www.citypress.co.za/politics/weird-world-politics-take-mickey/

 

[Lux et Veritas]

It appears that rape and murder are mostly inconvenient blips in Criminal Sports Heroes’ lives.

After OP serves his outrageous, inhumane “sentence” (living at home, doing whatever ex-sport star murderers do) - what will his future be ... perhaps the same future as convicted rapist and UK sports star Ched Evans (see below)?

Whatever his murky, blood-stained crystal ball holds, he should be prepared for intense social blowback - and I do mean INTENSE.


When arrested and interviewed by police, Evans boasted to cops that he and McDonald "could have had any girl" they wanted in a nightclub they had been to. He told them: "We were drinking, having fun there. It’s not uncommon we pick up girls. Clayton’s an attractive guy. We are footballers, that’s how it is. "Footballers are rich, they have got money, that’s what the girls like." Evans told police how he and pal McDonald could have had "any girl they wanted".
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ched-evans-sordid-night-turned-4446954

[Substitute “Oscar” for Evans and the putrid, macho attitude is exactly the same.]

After [co-defendant Clayton] McDonald was acquitted the pair, both 23, celebrated by banging heads together in the dock at Caernarfon crown court.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ched-evans-guilty-of-raping-woman-800974

[Geezus. Not just shockingly juvenile for grown men but considering this was a RAPE trial - pathological. This action perfectly illustrates the Exclusive Good ‘Ol Boy Club mentality ... it’s ALL a freakin macho GAME. HOW the F did Evans’ buddy Clayton McDonald escape conviction for rape?!! They both did the same thing to the same woman at the same time!!]

Rapist footballer Ched Evans has landed a dream prison job, teaching soccer skills to inmates. Evans, 24, who was jailed for raping a drunk 19-year-old in his hotel room after a night out, is working as a £7-a-week gym orderly. A source said of the ex-Wales and Sheffield United striker: “He’s in demand to organise training regimes.” Another source said he had “landed on his feet” at Wymott prison, in Leyland, Lancs, adding: “It is better than mopping the landing.”
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ched-evans-teaching-prison-inmates-1781500

[OP could do the same in prison. Hey, the start of a lucrative new sports franchise - contract his services to SA Correctional Services and establish prison system athletic competitions.]

The Welsh striker, who last played for Sheffield United, left Wymott Prison in Lancashire on Friday after serving half of a five-year sentence for raping a 19-year-old woman in a hotel. It has emerged that the Blades continued to pay Evans after he was convicted of rape in April 2012 and there is speculation he could return to play for the Bramall Lane club. ... The Sun reported on Saturday that Evans is on the verge of signing a £500,000 contract with United and could be back in training by next week. ... However, as a condition of his contract Evans - who still maintains he is innocent - must make a public apology.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ace-football-convicted-rapist-ched-evans.html

[WTF good is a “public apology” if it’s mandated by your sports contract? Worse than worthless.]

TV presenter and Sheffield United patron Charlie Webster has vowed to quit her role with the club if they re-sign newly free Ched Evans. "Very few people would be able to walk back into the same job as they did before being a convicted rapist."
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ched-evans-tv-presenter-charlie-4458373#rlabs=5

Explaining her decision to stand by Ched, [girlfriend] Natasha [Massey] was adamant in her belief she “knew the facts way before the jury, way before the public”.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/ched-evans-girlfriend-defends-rapist-4435845

[OMG. Another one living in the Lush Land of Denial. She knows exactly nothing except what Evans told her. Worse, she publicly admits she trusts her cheating boyfriend 100% - the same guy who told her the “facts”! LOL]

“Ched wouldn’t be capable of committing this crime...I just want to get him home and live a normal life.”
- Natasha Massey
http://www.itv.com/thismorning/hot-...m-standing-by-footballer-boyfriend-ched-evans

[What kind of “normal” life do you have with a cheating rapist? The. Mind. Reels. These two were obviously meant for each other. Like the Pistorius family (and so many other similar cases), they just cannot bear to admit a friend, partner or family member is capable of such vile monstrosity - reflects very badly on them.]

152,649+ signatures to date demand sports ban of Ched Evans
http://www.change.org/p/kevin-mccab...te-ched-evans-as-a-player-at-sheffield-united

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...urning-play-former-club-sheffield-united.html

In an interview with LBC Radio [Deputy Prime Minister Nick] Clegg...said: “I think the owners need to think really long and hard about the fact that when you take a footballer on, you are not taking just a footballer these days, you are also taking on a role model. You are taking on a role model, particularly for a lot of young boys who look up to their heroes on a football pitch in a team like that, and he has committed a very serious crime. It is for the football club to decide, but I really do think that footballers these days, they are major public figures who have a public responsibility to set an example for other people. I’m sure that will weigh heavily in the decisions made by the owners of Sheffield United. Rape is an incredibly serious offence, an unbelievably serious offence. He has done his time but I just don’t believe that the owners of a football club can somehow wish away the fact that that has happened.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-convicted-rape-blades-honoured-contract.html

 

[Estelle]

Without his guns, OP will be nothing. That is, he will have no power. He will be afraid of these criminals and he will need a bodyguard to protect him maybe for the rest of his life.

Without his athletic success, he will soon be forgotten as an icon and only remembered as the guy who killed his girlfriend with four shots through a toilet door and claimed he was innocent as he said it was in self-defence. But most of the public know differently.

Without his money and cars, he will no longer be able to bribe his way out or attract the blonde models he is so accustomed to doing.

Poor old Oscar!

 

[lithgow1]

Reeva was an intelligent & educated SA woman. If OP did yell: "get the f **k outta ma house" then I'm sure Reeva would have quickly yelled: "It's me in here!" or words to that effect. Her reported silence is not acceptable to me. IMO she was more likely to have screamed in fear if she knew what was coming, or as an automatic reaction once hit in the hip. Was there a time delay between the first and subsequent bullets? There could have been. We only have OP's versions.

I also think she was screaming for sure - as per the neighbours. I was just recounting what he said in the courtroom (supposedly to the intruder/s) as one of the two examples when I feel he came closest to being (partly) truthful about the events of that night or at least on the verge of being truthful.

 

[Cherwell]

I might be in the minority here, but during sentencing, I felt like a voyeur for the first time during the trial, and uncomfortable as a result.

I should state that I believe Pistorius shot Reeva in a rage, and must face the consequences of his actions, and these have to be a lengthy stretch, as punishment and deterrent.

However, I take no delight in his likely imprisonment. He is obviously an individual with psychological issues, from a family with an odd dynamic, and is someone who has struggled against significant challenges.

It is sad and depressing that Reeva's life and potential was wasted, yet it is also sad that OP overcame all his challenges only to throw his own life away so pointlessly.

My interest in this case was piqued by the absurd defence given by Pistorius but at the end of it all, I will want no part in the vitriolic celebration of his incarceration.

Well, I do. He is a murdering, lying, cowardly, cheating, selfish arsehole who is a danger to anyone who may find themselves in his vicinity.

 

[Cloen]

It appears that rape and murder are mostly inconvenient blips in Criminal Sports Heroes’ lives.

After OP serves his outrageous, inhumane “sentence” (living at home, doing whatever ex-sport star murderers do) - what will his future be ... perhaps the same future as convicted rapist and UK sports star Ched Evans (see below)?

Whatever his murky, blood-stained crystal ball holds, he should be prepared for intense social blowback - and I do mean INTENSE.


When arrested and interviewed by police, Evans boasted to cops that he and McDonald "could have had any girl" they wanted in a nightclub they had been to. He told them: "We were drinking, having fun there. It’s not uncommon we pick up girls. Clayton’s an attractive guy. We are footballers, that’s how it is. "Footballers are rich, they have got money, that’s what the girls like." Evans told police how he and pal McDonald could have had "any girl they wanted".
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ched-evans-sordid-night-turned-4446954

[Substitute “Oscar” for Evans and the putrid, macho attitude is exactly the same.]

After [co-defendant Clayton] McDonald was acquitted the pair, both 23, celebrated by banging heads together in the dock at Caernarfon crown court.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ched-evans-guilty-of-raping-woman-800974

[Geezus. Not just shockingly juvenile for grown men but considering this was a RAPE trial - pathological. This action perfectly illustrates the Exclusive Good ‘Ol Boy Club mentality ... it’s ALL a freakin macho GAME. HOW the F did Evans’ buddy Clayton McDonald escape conviction for rape?!! They both did the same thing to the same woman at the same time!!]

Rapist footballer Ched Evans has landed a dream prison job, teaching soccer skills to inmates. Evans, 24, who was jailed for raping a drunk 19-year-old in his hotel room after a night out, is working as a £7-a-week gym orderly. A source said of the ex-Wales and Sheffield United striker: “He’s in demand to organise training regimes.” Another source said he had “landed on his feet” at Wymott prison, in Leyland, Lancs, adding: “It is better than mopping the landing.”
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ched-evans-teaching-prison-inmates-1781500

[OP could do the same in prison. Hey, the start of a lucrative new sports franchise - contract his services to SA Correctional Services and establish prison system athletic competitions.]

The Welsh striker, who last played for Sheffield United, left Wymott Prison in Lancashire on Friday after serving half of a five-year sentence for raping a 19-year-old woman in a hotel. It has emerged that the Blades continued to pay Evans after he was convicted of rape in April 2012 and there is speculation he could return to play for the Bramall Lane club. ... The Sun reported on Saturday that Evans is on the verge of signing a £500,000 contract with United and could be back in training by next week. ... However, as a condition of his contract Evans - who still maintains he is innocent - must make a public apology.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ace-football-convicted-rapist-ched-evans.html

[WTF good is a “public apology” if it’s mandated by your sports contract? Worse than worthless.]

TV presenter and Sheffield United patron Charlie Webster has vowed to quit her role with the club if they re-sign newly free Ched Evans. "Very few people would be able to walk back into the same job as they did before being a convicted rapist."
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ched-evans-tv-presenter-charlie-4458373#rlabs=5

Explaining her decision to stand by Ched, [girlfriend] Natasha [Massey] was adamant in her belief she “knew the facts way before the jury, way before the public”.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/ched-evans-girlfriend-defends-rapist-4435845

[OMG. Another one living in the Lush Land of Denial. She knows exactly nothing except what Evans told her. Worse, she publicly admits she trusts her cheating boyfriend 100% - the same guy who told her the “facts”! LOL]

“Ched wouldn’t be capable of committing this crime...I just want to get him home and live a normal life.”
- Natasha Massey
http://www.itv.com/thismorning/hot-...m-standing-by-footballer-boyfriend-ched-evans

[What kind of “normal” life do you have with a cheating rapist? The. Mind. Reels. These two were obviously meant for each other. Like the Pistorius family (and so many other similar cases), they just cannot bear to admit a friend, partner or family member is capable of such vile monstrosity - reflects very badly on them.]

152,649+ signatures to date demand sports ban of Ched Evans
http://www.change.org/p/kevin-mccab...te-ched-evans-as-a-player-at-sheffield-united

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...urning-play-former-club-sheffield-united.html

In an interview with LBC Radio [Deputy Prime Minister Nick] Clegg...said: “I think the owners need to think really long and hard about the fact that when you take a footballer on, you are not taking just a footballer these days, you are also taking on a role model. You are taking on a role model, particularly for a lot of young boys who look up to their heroes on a football pitch in a team like that, and he has committed a very serious crime. It is for the football club to decide, but I really do think that footballers these days, they are major public figures who have a public responsibility to set an example for other people. I’m sure that will weigh heavily in the decisions made by the owners of Sheffield United. Rape is an incredibly serious offence, an unbelievably serious offence. He has done his time but I just don’t believe that the owners of a football club can somehow wish away the fact that that has happened.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-convicted-rape-blades-honoured-contract.html

want to read this, love your posts
but this RED is really annoying and harsh on the eyes !
sorry !!

 

[Lux et Veritas]

Nel mocked the defence's claims earlier this week that there were no railings in the prison showers, and said Pistorius' own shower at his home did not have one either. ... In his response, Roux said that Pistorius' personal shower was equipped with a “pedestal” substituting the necessity of a rail.
http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/nel-asks-for-10-years-jail-for-oscar-1.1766784#.VEFUEqD8wzt

Roux’s own witness, Versfeld, said Oscar cannot take showers!!!

Oscar himself said he took a shower the day of the murder.

So who’s LYING - Versfeld, Oscar or Roux?

All three.

Have Masipa & Co really been in a coma since March 4, 2014?

Everything else aside, this one massive load of horse hockey gives the lie to his mobility and vulnerability claims.

(Wth is a shower “pedestal”?)

David SmithVerified account @SmithInAfrica
Versfeld: #Pistorius said, "I fall about once a week or every two weeks... I bath rather than shower because I can't stand long."

“I went upstairs then, I was ... I wanted to get out of the clothes I’d been in for the day and I went upstairs and got changed and SHOWERED. ...”
- Oscar Pistorius testimony

 

[Cloen]

Not sure exactly what you find absurd if you have read all previous posts.
I have certainly never been of the opinion that because he has spent a fortune on legal fees he should not go to prison and have never indicated this in any posts .
His legal team however have tried to garner the sympathy of the judge by hinting that because he is now allegedly broke and grief stricken that OP has already been punished enough and should not receive a custodial sentence .
I certainly do not share that opinion and hope for a custodial sentence .

Roux's biggest load of BS was telling the Court that Oscar has suffered enough, coming to terms with fact he was responsible for Reeva's death - and he's lost everything as a result - The arrogance of the man astounds me................like he didn't mean to kill Reeva and it was all a mistake .....and his friends believed the prosecution from the outset so turned against him !! doh !!

He was hoping Roux would get him acquitted and so the Pistorius family are shocked he's been convicted of even CH,.............. will await the nonsense spiel again from Uncle A after sentencing .........the usual is to be expected " OP is still grieving for Reeva blah blah" (while he goes out with his NEW 19 year old girlfriend !! )

 

[Cloen]

Roux’s own witness, Versfeld, said Oscar cannot take showers!!!

Oscar himself said he took a shower the day of the murder.

So who’s LYING - Versfeld, Oscar or Roux?

All three.

Have Masipa & Co really been in a coma since March 4, 2014?

Everything else aside, this one massive load of horse hockey gives the lie to his mobility and vulnerability claims.

(Wth is a shower “pedestal”?)

David SmithVerified account @SmithInAfrica
Versfeld: #Pistorius said, "I fall about once a week or every two weeks... I bath rather than shower because I can't stand long."

“I went upstairs then, I was ... I wanted to get out of the clothes I’d been in for the day and I went upstairs and got changed and SHOWERED. ...”
- Oscar Pistorius testimony

he has a seat in his shower to sit on as he can't balance.

The idiotic Probation worker said there are no handles in the showers in prisons -- , so OP can't balance, which I think was her point, probably something Roux wanted her to put into her report

She was a twit anyway and being paid to say anything to help keep OP out of prison............her testimony will be thrown out by the Judge, she was a prize plonker and should be struck off

 

[Lux et Veritas]

I have a feeling that given the opportunity Oscar and his brother will have the heavies you've mentioned targetting them - I think they will both have to be looking over their shoulders for a VERY long time !!! Even moreso since the press wrote about them having OP's phone wiped clean of data and not handing it in to police until the Bail Hearing...........there are MANY scores to settle arn't there and these guys don't sound like they mess around.The fact that Oscar's now killed someone, puts him in the same moral , or rather immoral bracket as Schultz doesn't it !

And perhaps Schultz can claim 'accident' or 'mistake' when either he or others use a firearm anywhere that OP or his brother are !!
Nightclub brawls will be a place anything can happen............for example.............and I don't think OP or his brother will stay away from nightclubs forever do you ??? just saying..............

Seems like Mikey Schultz would be the very LAST person Oscar would want to piss off.

Schultz plays in the big leagues.

He literally got away clean with self-confessed murder ... a hit.

Ozzie's just a spoiled rich kid, a rank amateur, a snotty, weasley crybaby.

Throw in all of Schultz's other 'associates' and I'd say Oscar's got a nasty (potentially lethal?) problem dogging his every move.

Seriously, somewhere down the road, look for SCHULTZ and PISTORIUS in the same headline.

 

[whiterum]

Sorry, Gb, apparently, my post was not clear. I tried to say that the way the defence team is reasoning here seems totally absurd to me.
Besides that, I am convinced that OP is far away from being financially ruined.

Of course he is , far away indeed. Poor him though, he even sold his car, his last asset in order to offer the proceeds to the Steenkamps . He has actually nothing left and has to get about on shank's mare. Who is he trying to kid , IMO the majority of his money and assets will have been dispersed into family accounts in anticipation of a possible civil action being brought against him by Reeva's parents. Hence the scrum to retrieve safe documents as poor Reeva lay dead on the floor.

 

[Lux et Veritas]

he has a seat in his shower to sit on as he can't balance.

The idiotic Probation worker said there are no handles in the showers in prisons -- , so OP can't balance, which I think was her point, probably something Roux wanted her to put into her report

She was a twit anyway and being paid to say anything to help keep OP out of prison............her testimony will be thrown out by the Judge, she was a prize plonker and should be struck off

It's all so bizarrely laughable, isn't it?

"Twit" and "prize plonker" are the perfect words for Skunk Lady. :lol:

As far as showers go, built-in shower seats are very common in upscale homes. Extremely unlikely something OP specially installed. (Just like his bullchit French doors claim - they were SO not built to accommodate his disability - anyone see any wheelchair or elevator?)

Seriously, the guy is made of pure 24K LIE from start to finish.

Besides, by his own account of taking baths ONLY, it makes no difference if there's a "pedestal" in his shower! LOL

 

[Lux et Veritas]

BIB, in this scenario, with an original 8 year sentence, 4 years suspended, 4 years would be real jail time, but out in 2 with good behaviour.

I'm not sure OP could hold out for TWO YEARS with good behavior. LOL

Throwing hissy fits and getting in people's faces are what he does.

Although, in all fairness, presented with an army of hardened prison inmates, he'd most likely revert back to puking, snotting crybaby mode.

Does the SA Correctional Services have a child daycare unit? :lol:

 

[Gbtaketwo]

Roux's biggest load of BS was telling the Court that Oscar has suffered enough, coming to terms with fact he was responsible for Reeva's death - and he's lost everything as a result - The arrogance of the man astounds me................like he didn't mean to kill Reeva and it was all a mistake .....and his friends believed the prosecution from the outset so turned against him !! doh !!

He was hoping Roux would get him acquitted and so the Pistorius family are shocked he's been convicted of even CH,.............. will await the nonsense spiel again from Uncle A after sentencing .........the usual is to be expected " OP is still grieving for Reeva blah blah" (while he goes out with his NEW 19 year old girlfriend !! )

Yes I agree he and all his family were shocked about the CH judgement. They are used to winning and using their wealth to their advantage .
If it had been a jury trial and I was on the jury I would have definitely found him guilty of murder because I also believe he knew it was Reeva and that the imaginary intruder was exactly that .....imaginary .
I keep trying to respect the verdict ( without agreeing with it ) as the judge is eminently more qualified that me .
I also don't believe his protestations of true love and grief for Reeva . Most of his courtroom semantics smacks of self pity and self preservation . However it would be incredible if he didn't genuinely regret his actions and am sure if he could turn the clock back that he wouldn't shoot Reeva.
The only time we will know for sure that we are seeing the real emotions of OP will be if the judge hands down a suitable custodial sentence .
It is such a shame his phone left the scene as I still have a feeling there was something on it that may have made a big difference to the result of the trial ,however we will know now .
JMOO

 

[Lux et Veritas]

[Jonnie] Peacock...happens to be the fastest amputee in history. Running at the US Paralympic Trials at the University of Indiana in June [2012], the 19-year-old from Cambridge clocked 10.85sec for 100m. In doing so, he broke the world record for the T44 single amputee category, held by Marlon Shirley of the USA. His time was also 0.06sec quicker than the T43 double amputee world record held by Pistorius since 2007.
http://www.independent.co.uk/hei-fi...sh-hopeful-8105367.html?origin=internalSearch

One more humiliating thing broke and broken Oz has LOST.

His life is now a total shambles!

It couldn't possibly get worse!

Well ... all except for Schultz & Co. :lol: