TRIAL OF CHAD DAYBELL CHARGED WITH MURDER OF JJ VALLOW, TYLEE RYAN AND TAMMY DAYBELL #5

[iamshadow21]

Any lawyers here? Is there any way the State can fix this? Judge said it is too late to amend at this point, so what happens now?

@vislaw , we need you.

 

[nodamselindistress]

Somebody must have copy-pasted Tylee's dates to JJ's count. The dates were correct before the counts were amended in February 2024.

Exactly what happened! Used to do that all time as a RE paralegal.

 

[887sMtreme]

Chas was also into all sorts New Age practices. Energy healing, dream interpretation,... He believed in astrology as well.

Right, and the pendulum. It’s basic teen witch crap. How naïve all those people were, one level, yet utterly monstrous on another.

 

[lightofmine99]

12:31 p.m. Boyce says there is a filed amended indictment that has the wrong dates for JJ Vallow’s death. He is giving the state two hours to prepare for argument. We will be back at 2:30 p.m.

So argue for what? Why the typo is OK or something?

 

[indicolite22]

Is that Lori's first lawyer you're talking about? He lost his law license? What youtuber was he following?

I'm not sure we're allowed to mention her name (it's not a real name anyway). A true crime youtuber with no legal background helped him with research and even with writing documents in exchange for the first scoop (without telling her audience). When their involvement was leaked, he was allegedly reported to the Idaho Bar and the youtuber involved quit the platform. Some of this information came from Lori Hellis and some from youtuber's associates.

 

[nodamselindistress]

I am thinking worst case scenario the State will have to drop charges for JJ's murder.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Legally filed papers must be perfect. The State has had four years to get the dates typed right on those charges. All the while Prior was on his own.
The State screwed up. The judge wants to help but….
They have until 3:30 to get it right or not get it at all! You can’t get it done after the defense begins their case.
JJ didn’t die on the 8th. It will be a scramble to prepare their argument. There’s no way to
it typed, filed and given to the judge today.
Hope their argument is a good one!

 

[iamshadow21]

I am thinking worst case scenario the State will have to drop charges for JJ's murder.

I have the feeling that unless they find some really amazing caselaw in the next two hours, it's likely.

But I am not a lawyer.

 

[Love Never Fails]

I am thinking worst case scenario the State will have to drop charges for JJ's murder.

But even some other charges had typos. No reason for that! No reason on earth to look stupid in front of the whole world. Four attorneys. Four!

 

[Nikynoo]

Didn’t the same issue arise at Lori’s trial? Why didn’t they amend chads at the same time?

 

[lightofmine99]

The State will or will not have the option to refile if the charges are (probably) dropped?

 

[TigerLou]

I am thinking worst case scenario the State will have to drop charges for JJ's murder.

How will they explain that to the jurors?

I have the feeling that unless they find some really amazing caselaw in the next two hours, it's likely.

But I am not a lawyer.

Just terrible.

 

[nodamselindistress]

Didn’t the same issue arise at Lori’s trial? Why didn’t they amend chads at the same time?

Yes I remember they amended at Lori's trial but they had not yet rested so were allowed to amend.

 

[TigerLou]

Yes I remember they amended at Lori's trial but they had not yet rested so were allowed to amend.

And it didn't occur to them then to learn that lesson before this trial?

 

[Love Never Fails]

Didn’t the same issue arise at Lori’s trial? Why didn’t they amend chads at the same time?

I don’t remember Lori’s trial. It sort of pales in comparison to this. And it wasn’t just JJ. There were other typos. JJ’s was the most egregious. No reason for four attorneys to screw up so badly.
Not only that,,,,they are making Prior look good.
I’m glad you are here Nikynoo.

 

[iamshadow21]

The State will or will not have the option to refile if the charges are (probably) dropped?

I have a horrible feeling that the motion to directed verdict might mean he has to be found not guilty.

 

[nodamselindistress]

Court TV needs to call a local attorney in Idaho and find out what if anything can be done.

OMG, cannot even imagine how Kay and Larry Woodcock feel right now. FURIOUS I am guessing.

 

[indicolite22]

How will they explain that to the jurors?


Just terrible.

The dates were correct up until a couple of months ago. Then they corrected a mistake and doing so made another, much bigger one. The judge only noticed it today.

 

[iamshadow21]

Court TV needs to call a local attorney in Idaho and find out what if anything can be done.

OMG, cannot even imagine how Kay and Larry Woodcock feel right now. FURIOUS I am guessing.

I am devastated for them. Partner just sat through a twenty minute rant from me about the situation, with a big focus on the injustice to Larry and Kay. I just hope their health is strong enough to weather this.

 

[J-Kat]

The State will or will not have the option to refile if the charges are (probably) dropped?

That’s what I was thinking. Can they drop the charges re JJ that are not correct and present a new, correct indictment? Of course I guess that would require anther trial. They seem to have more incriminating evidence re Tylee with the tools found in the garage so that should still get a guilty verdict. Poor little JJ. If there is a new indictment they will have that as backup if this jury finds Not Guilty. This should have never happened!