TRIAL OF CHAD DAYBELL CHARGED WITH MURDER OF JJ VALLOW, TYLEE RYAN AND TAMMY DAYBELL

[aafromaa]

They all appeared on that 48 Hours (or Fox? IDR) segment where they at least appeared to be standing by dad last year I think.

I say appeared because A) pay attention to the seating and B) pay attention to who is talking the most.

I have a feeling that if any of the kids have doubts they wouldn't dare voice them in the presence of others.

MOO.

It’s hard to keep dates even years straight in this case but the interview with the Daybell children was not last year but almost 3 years ago - I believe it was 48 Hrs and aired in Aug 2021.

And keep in mind that we know from the interview that LE had told them that TD died of asphyxiation but we do not know whether they had been told of the marks indicating she had been restrained or if they knew CD had been telling others she was going to die and he was going to marry LVD. I suspect some of their views of what happened and CD’s involvement may have changed some during the LVD trial as more evidence was made known.

 

[ReadySet]

I find the jury selection process kind of fascinating. If just for the "slice of life" part. A man who has lupus and needs to protect his health, and the health of his dog. A woman who must be available to make meals for her husband who often works out of state and is on a special diet. The guy who used his phone as his alarm clock and the phone died, that's why he was late yesterday. So many who will not get paid for the whole 10 weeks and can't afford to be on a jury.

Also, I see the Defense, Prior, is not only looking for the right jurors, but is laying the groundwork for how they should think and feel. You see the pictures the media puts out there and you know they just want a reaction, right? You wouldn't draw any conclusions from a picture? You would go into this totally neutral, right?
Maybe that's how it works, I've never followed jury selection this closely. If I were a potential juror, I think I would feel a bit manipulated by him, but maybe that's just another necessary defense tactic.

I do find the way Prior speaks annoying.

 

[Kemug]

They have just advanced a female juror who is familiar with Lori's case. Total of 26 potential jurors picked so far.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1775582931517636630

Does it seem to anyone else that the bar is pretty low to be on this jury? I suppose they're just being realistic.

 

[aafromaa]

Does it seem to anyone else that the bar is pretty low to be on this jury? I suppose they're just being realistic.

Yes but also remember that some will be eliminated during the peremptory challenge phase which comes once they get to 50 - each side has 16 challenges to use so just passing thru this round does not necessarily mean they won’t be released.

BTW can anyone tell me if each side is required to use all 16 of their challenges? Or what happens if both sides challenge some of the same ones? In other words, how do they get from 50 down to 18 if the challenges overlap or are not used?

 

[Ruminations]

The question 'Dateline NBC' correspondent Keith Morrison hopes will be answered during Chad Daybell's trial - East Idaho News

BOISE — Ever since the Daybell case broke over four years ago, Keith Morrison has had one question: was Chad Daybell leading Lori Vallow along or was it the other way around? The “Dateline NBC” correspondent hopes he will learn the answer as Chad Daybell’s trial begins this month in Ada County...

www.eastidahonews.com

The answer is obvious, Keith!

Yes.

MIO

 

[ReadySet]

Questioning a potential juror who is an Adolescent Psychologist. Is against DP but said if on jury she could put that aside to follow the rules and law.
Was asked what if there was a mental health expert testifying; she said she would defer to their opinion. She passes as Juror #32

 

[Pyrite]

Was asked what if there was a mental health expert testifying; she said she would defer to their opinion

I get she is not me, but I don’t know how a person could honestly say this. My expertise is IT and IT security. If an expert witness came in and said something I know is wrong, I wouldn’t be able to defer to their opinion.

 

[mickey2942]

I get she is not me, but I don’t know how a person could honestly say this. My expertise is IT and IT security. If an expert witness came in and said something I know is wrong, I wouldn’t be able to defer to their opinion.

I completely agree with this. And really, if it comes down to a "battle of experts", while people cannot add information to deliberations, they can definitely state why they would agree with one party over another party. With their justification. And a mental health professional may see more points not noticed by a layperson.

 

[aafromaa]

According to Nate, we have 37 of the 50 for the pool. I’m glad he’s keeping track because I often can’t hear well enough to know what is going on lol. I’m actually surprised to see this many so soon - expected many more to be released in this phase.

I’m a little confused on how many challenges each side gets in the next phase - I said something about 16 each side in an earlier post because I read that somewhere but then I read that in a death penalty case in Idaho it’s 10 challenges. Does anyone know for sure?

If it is 10 then they go down from 50 to 30, right? So how would they reduce that to 18? Do they draw numbers from a hat or something?

Also, how does the peremptory challenge work? Do lawyers just give a list of their challenges to the judge based on questioning so far or is there more questioning?

I’m anxious to get to opening statements and testimony. It seems to me this is moving more quickly than expected but I am so curious to hear what JP’s opening statement will say and whether he will hint at whether they will put on a defense and if so what that might be. I’ve wondered since the day that Tylee’s & JJ’s bodies were found on his property how CD would try to explain it all…or will he?

 

[lightofmine99]

Does it seem to anyone else that the bar is pretty low to be on this jury? I suppose they're just being realistic.

They also advanced a potential juror who admitted to watching one "documentary" (don't know if she specified or remembered which). Prosecution and defense were OK with her. In comparison, hearing about it a couple times in passing seems like nothing.

Unless she was dismissed for something else.

 

[ReadySet]

I get she is not me, but I don’t know how a person could honestly say this. My expertise is IT and IT security. If an expert witness came in and said something I know is wrong, I wouldn’t be able to defer to their opinion.

Before she said that, she said she would never diagnose a person she had not personally assessed. So I think the "defer" comment was in relation to that.

 

[indicolite22]

One of potential jurors was dismissed because he watched the jury selection the previous day. He stated that he was curious about the type of questions they would be asked.

 

[Niner]

Thursday, April 4th:
*Jury Selection continues (Day 4) (@ 9am MT) – ID – Joshua Jaxon (JJ) Vallow (7) & Tylee Ashlyn Ryan (16) (JJ last seen Sept. 23, 2019 & Tylee on Sept. 9, 2019, Rexburg; found June 9, 2020 buried in Daybell’s yard in Salem, ID) & Tamara “Tammy” Michelle Douglas Daybell (49) (died on Oct. 19, 2019 at her residence in Salem, ID; dob 5/4/70). – *Chad Guy Daybell (53/now 55) arrested (6/9/20) & indicted (5/25/21) & charged (5/26/21) & arraigned (6/9/21) with Count 1 (for Tylee): Conspiracy to commit 1st degree murder & grand theft by deception (for Daybell, Vallow & Alex Cox) & other co-conspirators. Count 2 (for Tylee): 1st degree murder. Count 3 (for JJ): Conspiracy to commit 1st degree murder & grand theft by deception. Count 4 (for JJ): 1st degree murder. Count 5 (for Tammy, 49, died 10/19/19): Conspiracy to commit 1st degree murder. Count 6 (for Tammy): 1st degree murder. Count 8 & 9: Insurance Fraud (Two counts of insurance fraud related to 2 different life insurance policies he had on Tammy). Plead not guilty. No bond. DA will seek DP. (Judge denied removing DP 3/14/24).
Trial began on 4/1/24 with final jury selection. Trial will be held in Ada County. Court hours are 8:30am to 3pm Monday-Friday.
Jury selection Day 1 (4/1/24): 16 to final 50. Day 2 (4/2): 4 to final 50. Day 3 (4/3): 17 to final 50. Total = 37. [There will be 12 jurors & 6 alternates]
Jury will be sequestered during deliberations in the guilt phase thru the penalty phase.
Judge Steven W. Boyce presiding. Prosecutors: Lindsey Blake & Rachel Smith & defense attorney John Prior.
Court info from 6/10/20 thru 3/29/24 & Jury Selection Day 1-2 (4/1-4/2/24) reference post #52 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...ow-tylee-ryan-and-tammy-daybell.708820/page-3
4/3/24 Wednesday, Jury Selection Day 3: Jury selection continues. Another 50 prospective jurors brought in. Have 17 more potential jurors of the 50 needed for the pool. Jury selection continues on Thursday, 4/4/24.

 

[vislaw]

BTW can anyone tell me if each side is required to use all 16 of their challenges? Or what happens if both sides challenge some of the same ones? In other words, how do they get from 50 down to 18 if the challenges overlap or are not used?

You are not required to use your challenges. Here's an interesting article that posits preemptory challenges are not really useful and which argues prosecutors should waive them. If lawyers do not use their challenges the judge will cull the jury based on the order called (last called to the box will be the first eliminated). From my experience both as an attorney and a trial consultant, I've never seen or heard of a trial lawyer waiving the right to use a preemptory challenge. Back when I practiced we would occasionally have a "dream" panel who we legitimately felt we could live with without employing challenges. Nevertheless, we always felt there were small issues that would make us prefer somebody over someone else, and making a challenge gives you a sense that you are "choosing" your jury -- rather than leaving it to luck of the draw. I CAN imagine a scenario where counsel might choose to make a psychological gesture by "passing" when his/her turn to challenge comes up. I can see that it might be a disconcerting ploy to have your opposition effectively say, "we're going to win with any jurors you choose from this pool." Good trial lawyers will play mind games if they think they may throw their opponents off balance.

 

[watergirl62]

Nice post, reminds me of a melodramatic Lincoln Lawyer episode I recently watched revolving around jury selection.

 

[mrjitty]

Signing on. I completely forgot this trial was happening but look forward to following it with you all.

 

[Trebor5591]

I was watching a Court TV segment on this trial and the commentators were kicking around the idea that Lori Daybell Vallow might be called to testify for the defense in Chad Daybell's trial. Does anyone have any thoughts on the possibility of this occurring? IS Lori Vallow listed as a possible witness?

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[scapa]

I was watching a Court TV segment on this trial and the commentators were kicking around the idea that Lori Daybell Vallow might be called to testify for the defense in Chad Daybell's trial. Does anyone have any thoughts on the possibility of this occurring? IS Lori Vallow listed as a possible witness?

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I cannot imagine that any defence team would want any part of LV's addled ramblings, or that they would do any good. I can easily see them harming CD's defence, insofar as her Goddess routine might further convince a jury that, as the relatively more functional (if still self-deluded) partner, Chad must have been the planner and prime mover in these crimes.

But I would also not be much surprised if CD somehow attempted to summon an otherworldly host and vanish through a portal during these proceedings, so anything might happen here.

 

[mickey2942]

I was watching a Court TV segment on this trial and the commentators were kicking around the idea that Lori Daybell Vallow might be called to testify for the defense in Chad Daybell's trial. Does anyone have any thoughts on the possibility of this occurring? IS Lori Vallow listed as a possible witness?

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I can't see any scenario where LVD's testimony would be of any value for CD. Even if she took the fall, and absolved CD of everything, (which would never happen INMO), any testimony from her would probably not be considered valid by the jury.

 

[Cindizzi]

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