Trial - Ross Harris #2

[arkansasmimi]

To me it looks the same in both pics, although it's hard to compare because the angle of the photos is different. But looking at where the car seat's handle is between the two seats, it appears to be in the same place in both pics.

Is this difference an opinion or was it actually testified to?

Could be bad ss, but it was different, and the CSI guy didn't realize it. He didn't use all of his measurements when put back in car. His 2 reports reflected it. Then the State said well if they are going to put photos in them may as well put others and admitted photos, that show the doll and in the wrong position, you can see the top of the doll head from looking inside drivers door. Which was not the orig position of the car seat. Go back and look for CSI Grimstead testimony 10/12/16 might help

 

[katydid23]

They are spending a whole lot of time on this witnesses background and work history----wonder if there are going to be questions about his abilities/competence coming up?

 

[Hope4More]

Catching up on reading here, haven't watched AM trial, but about that recreation of temps in RH's car.

Seems to me it matters what the starting temp was in the car. That the AC was set to whatever point is meaningless without knowing if RH used it in the AM or if it was set for when he last used it, at 4:16 pm. I would think some inference may be drawn by the setting-- am temps were in the 70's, as opposed to afternoon temps in the 90's, and yes, a way hotter in the car.

Inference only goes so far, and the point I didn't read about here, though maybe it was in testimony, was that even if RH turned on the AC for drive of a few minutes, after he parked he left his front door wide open for 15-16 seconds.

Given the short drive (not thoroughly chilled) and how long the door was open (chill quickly dissipating), and the fact it isn't known if RH even used the AC, I think it was sloppy science to include that variable.

The big "tell" of State's skew, though, was that the recreation wasn't designed to ask the relevant question. The question wasn't how hot did the car become, the question was -- how hot did COOPER get and when. Leaving out the variables of humidity etc. fundamentally skewed the results.

IMO it was a recreation meant to favor a result indicating a slower death. Maybe good lawyering, but sloppy science.

 

[blue22]

They are spending a whole lot of time on this witnesses background and work history----wonder if there are going to be questions about his abilities/competence coming up?

I believe they have to do that if they are using someone as an "expert" witness. The defense can also ask questions about his history before he testifies.

Hopefully one of the attorneys here can chime in on that.

 

[Safeguard]

Oh I know. I feel sorry for her having to testify to this stuff on camera.

I kinda...don't. If your not prepared to pay don't play, as the saying goes. She knew he was married too. If your all good with inserting your privet areas into someone else's marriage you should be embarrassed.

She's lucky she didn't meet up with a crazy, angry wife, at some point, I don't think RH was her one and only online uhhh... acquaintance.

So... Nope. No sympathy over here, for grown people who are busted screwing around in other other people's marriages and lives like that. None of them have consciences imo.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Smith, an expert in surveillance footage investigation, was asked to get video from Chick-fil-A from the morning of June 18, 2014.

 

[katydid23]

I believe they have to do that if they are using someone as an "expert" witness. The defense can also ask questions about his history before he testifies.

Hopefully one of the attorneys here can chime in on that.

Oh yea, I know they have to and always do. But they spent a lot of time on his previous work history and really went into great detail. Just wondering if the defense plans to question his competency or experience level.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

He remembers to go to chik-fi-la to stuff his face. He manages to remember all the girls he is texting. He remembers to bring in his briefcase & coffee. He remembers to go to lunch. He remembers to buy lite bulbs. He remembers how to get to the prostitute's hotel. He remembers to save his guitar from the horrible heat in his car. He remembers his phone everywhere he goes. He forgets his 22 month old baby in a carseat 3" from his head in a very hot car 3 minutes after he kisses him on the mouth. Oh Please??!!!!!

:clap: Selective memory at its finest. Ross remembers what's important to him. Cooper was not. :moo:

 

[blue22]

Oh yea, I know they have to and always do. But they spent a lot of time on his previous work history and really went into great detail. Just wondering if the defense plans to question his competency or experience level.

Ah, I see.

Maybe so.

 

[JerseyGirl]

The prosecution shows a still image of Ross Harris holding Cooper inside Chick-fil-A shortly before 9 a.m. Smith says the image was taken from the restaurant's camera.

 

[Inthedetails]

The prosecution shows a still image of Ross Harris holding Cooper inside Chick-fil-A shortly before 9 a.m. Smith says the image was taken from the restaurant's camera.

Now that is a photo I would like to see. Cooper was such a cutie.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Now that is a photo I would like to see. Cooper was such a cutie.

It was posted days ago. Why didn't they call this "expert" when they called the employees of Chik-Fil-A testify early in the trial?

 

[Inthedetails]

It was posted days ago. Why didn't they call this "expert" when they called the employees of Chik-Fil-A testify early in the trial?

(I really just meant....I'd rather see that photo than the photos of Cooper later in the day. )

 

[Hope4More]

I recall Leanna's comment about Ross having left Cooper in the car and figured that he had done this before. I really didn't see anything sinister about it at the time. I never left DD alone in the car for any reason, and I don't think she'd leave her own children alone in a vehicle, either. That said, I think there are likely times when parents choose to do this if a child is asleep or when the weather is bad and it's just easier to lock the car to run a quick errand.

Leanna's comment only took on a more ominous tone for me when I began to question whether or not she and/or Ross had actually discussed leaving Cooper in a hot car deliberately to get him out of their lives. I guess that's what this case is really about, and a jury will determine if Ross intentionally left Cooper to die in a hot car.

Leanna was investigated for months. LE has cleared her as a suspect in Cooper's death.

 

[blue22]

It was posted days ago. Why didn't they call this "expert" when they called the employees of Chik-Fil-A testify early in the trial?

I've wondered if schedules impact when witnesses testify. I imagine some of the non retired LE have other investigations and possible trials going on.

Other than that...no idea.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Smith says he pulled the data from an iPad and a cell phone using the Cellabrite program.

 

[katydid23]

They sure are doing a lot of preliminary talking and talking to prepare to say something, I hope....this has been a very slow, boring introduction so far...

 

[ScotAng]

I kinda...don't. If your not prepared to pay don't play, as the saying goes. She knew he was married too. If your all good with inserting your privet areas into someone else's marriage you should be embarrassed.

She's lucky she didn't meet up with a crazy, angry wife, at some point, I don't think RH was her one and only online uhhh... acquaintance.

So... Nope. No sympathy over here, for grown people who are busted screwing around in other other people's marriages and lives like that. None of them have consciences imo.

Busted? Shamed for coming to court to give evidence, is what it is. He's the one screwing around in his marriage.

You post is reminiscent of 'wife targets female husband's cheating with' as opposed to the guilty husband, stance. I've never understood that tack.

 

[Justiceseeker35]

I'm having a hard time with today's testimony that CH may still have been alive at lunch time (because the temps hadn't reached the critical points) when RH went back to his car to drop off his purchase. I just don't see how he could have missed his kid in the car then. heart breaking

 

[katydid23]

Busted? Shamed for coming to court to give evidence, is what it is. He's the one screwing around in his marriage.

You post is reminiscent of 'wife targets female husband's cheating with' as opposed to the guilty husband, stance. I've never understood that tack.

Exactly.

...and he is the one on trial for his son's gruesome death, not her. She may have been responding to his texts and sexting him, but her child was not in her car, dying from heat stroke at the time. :cry: