Trial - Ross Harris #3

[JerseyGirl]

Now Kilgore is asking about Harris’ Whisper messaging the day of Cooper’s death.

Harris says Cooper is “awesome,” in the exchange.

That is inconsistent with malice or hatred for the individual he’s talking about,” Kilgore said.

Yes, on the Whisper, correct, Stoddard said.

It seems like Harris is clueless that his son is in the car at the time.

“Or it could be a reminder that Cooper is outside in the car … It could go either way,” Stoddard said. “I believe it should be a reminder that your son is outside in the car.”

 

[cricket49]

Funny aside. I was tasked with making silly videos of my kid's class for a year end thing. I had set my camera on a tripod, but forgot to take it off video mode. I had no idea I was accidentally taping myself standing, and consequently a super close up video of my backside. I was showing the teacher the pictures later in the day and first thing that comes up is a 15 minute video of my rear. That was awkward, lol!!!

:hilarious:

 

[Inthedetails]

Now Kilgore is asking about Harris’ Whisper messaging the day of Cooper’s death.

Harris says Cooper is “awesome,” in the exchange.

That is inconsistent with malice or hatred for the individual he’s talking about,” Kilgore said.

Yes, on the Whisper, correct, Stoddard said.

It seems like Harris is clueless that his son is in the car at the time.

“Or it could be a reminder that Cooper is outside in the car … It could go either way,” Stoddard said. “I believe it should be a reminder that your son is outside in the car.”

MULTIPLE things happened during that particular day that should have reminded him, but yet he didn't remember. Is he really that distracted and unable to remember?? It's not like the day was full of a huge work load - he spent the day encountering many reminders of his child.

I don't get it.

 

[minor4th]

Honest question (not snarky) - do they have to point that out? Can't the jury infer that sexting lead him to neglect his child? Or does the jury have to be instructed on that?

There will be very specific jury instructions on criminal negligence.

So far the state has not made it clear what they believe the criminally negligent conduct was for 2nd degree child cruelty. They don't have to be explicit about it while they are presenting their case. They will likely make this argument in their closing argument.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Stoddard says at one point he asked the FBI for help in this case. He received a binder filled with articles about kids who have died in hot cars.

 

[TexMex]

IMO, he used Cooper. He used him to perform in front of family and friends, he used him for women. He paraded him when he needed to. Cooper was his cover, because Leanna sure as heck wasn't going to be. From Leanna's texts she had to helicopter him into doing the day to day father stuff. Also, IMO...you can only use someone for so long until your shtick is up. I think his life was completely out of control, the walls were closing in, and he wasn't going to be able to hind behind it anymore. I didn't need the state to do much of anything for me to be convinced of that.

Who knows what the jury might think?

I imagine it was very stressful having to maintain a double life. IMO he began to resent Cooper. The little joker had him getting up earlier having to chauffeur him to school. He took attention his wife used to give him. She didn't even have time to have sex with him anymore. He drained his bank account by being in day care. And geez, wifey is treating me like I'm her child too. Constant reminders, no sex. Wishes he could divorce but then he's still not free. He will have 16 years of child support, carrying insurance, visits. Plus he will still be forced to deal with the ex. By just shutting the car door and walking away he thought he could free himself from his "pain", both emotionally and financially. He could be free from the double life. Free to feed his self described sex addiction. Free of child support. Free of his wife. He thought he'd regain control of his life.

 

[Inthedetails]

There will be very specific jury instructions on criminal negligence.

So far the state has not made it clear what they believe the criminally negligent conduct was for 2nd degree child cruelty. They don't have to be explicit about it while they are presenting their case. They will likely make this argument in their closing argument.

Thank you. That is helpful.

 

[matou]

Kilgore showed Stoddard a photo of Cooper that Harris took.

“But on that same gallery there is a picture of his exposed, erect penis … on the same page of his phone. It says ‘double life,’” Stoddard said.

“Are you done? Are you finished with your speech?” Kilgore says.

Taking Cooper to Chick-fil-A is a sign of a father wanting to spend time with his son, Kilgore said. Yes, Stoddard replied.

The restaurant manager “observed father and son appeared enjoying time together,” Kilgore said. Yes, Stoddard said.

The women Harris sexted and had affairs with also never heard Harris say bad things about Cooper.

His gallery was called double life? wow

 

[minor4th]

His gallery was called double life? wow

No, it wasn't. That was Stoddard's assessment.

 

[cricket49]

His gallery was called double life? wow

No Stoddard was implying it says double life. That Ross had a double life.

 

[Inthedetails]

His gallery was called double life? wow

I don't think the gallery itself is a double life. The fact that a man has photos of his child AND photos of his penis that he sends to women other than his wife shows a double life.

The two types of photos indicate a double life.

The fact they are in the same gallery doesn't matter.

jmo

 

[arkansasmimi]

BAM lol Kilgore just busted the State from yesterday morning :silly: over the FBI Binder that Stoddard got and Boring has lol since Nov 2015 and Dr. David Diamond

oops her goes the don;t recall

 

[minor4th]

The judge should absolutely not be sustaining these hearsay objections. And Kilgore should be making better arguments about why it is not hearsay. e.g. "It's not been offered to prove the truth of the statements" or "it's only being offered to show the effect of the statement on the hearer (Stoddard)."

 

[minor4th]

BAM lol Kilgore just busted the State from yesterday morning :silly:

How so? I was distracted by typing a post lol

 

[Hope4More]

WTF. Referring to the (conflicting) testimony of previous LE witnesses who reported to Stoddard is impermissable "hearsay" ?!

 

[JerseyGirl]

His gallery was called double life? wow

Yes at 10:05 a.m. today: http://www.ajc.com/news/breaking-ne...rris-murder-trial-oct/Dmo0qRDQuDAgfBiBSbsmiP/

“But on that same gallery there is a picture of his exposed, erect penis … on the same page of his phone. It says ‘double life,’” Stoddard said.

 

[Hope4More]

The judge should absolutely not be sustaining these hearsay objections. And Kilgore should be making better arguments about why it is not hearsay. e.g. "It's not been offered to prove the truth of the statements" or "it's only being offered to show the effect of the statement on the hearer (Stoddard)."

Right. Absolutely baffling. Maybe Kilgore knows this judge will punish him if he persists?

 

[JerseyGirl]

Stoddard requested help from the FBI. They gave him articles about parents forgetting their children in cars.

The articles included ones written by an expert, David Diamond, who the defense plans to call as a witness in this case.

Kilgore is now asking questions about Stoddard’s testimony that he detected a smell of death.

“You didn’t smell anything on the scene?” Kilgore asked. “No, sir,” Stoddard replied.

Stoddard got in the car later that night, roughly six hours later. At that time, the car was in the evidence shed at the police department.

In 2014, Stoddard testified that there was a foul odor that smelled like decomposition. “Yesterday when you testified, you kind of backed off that a little bit,” Kilgore said.

Stoddard said he didn’t mean decomposition in the scientific sense. He said he meant he smelled “death” not decomp.

Another officer said he smelled an odor of “death” at the scene.

 

[minor4th]

Stoddard is just making stuff up now

 

[minor4th]

Boomsauce - Stoddard just conceded that "of course it's possible" that Ross didn't smell anything in the car