Trial - Ross Harris #4

[arkansasmimi]

Oh, so I was right when I labeled it as 'feigned outrage?' :wink:

I will have to agree to disagree on that. Why if they had the info to begin with, was it not done correct to begin with?

 

[arkansasmimi]

Quote Originally Posted by arkansasmimi View Post
Umm the Expert has testified that he got all information from Det Phil Stoddard.

WEll, that right there was his first mistake. lol

:silly: have to agree. Stoddard also said this man was not telling the truth. (Dustin said had only seen 1 ss photo) then the day of testimony was shown others by State. This was his testimony. After Dustin left stand and courtroom and Stoddard on stand (Stoddard had been in courtroom listening) testified that Dustin was shown those photos prior he just didnt let him keep them (ss was allowed to keep) :thinking: why would Mr. Dustin lie or even have a reason to? Not one that I could think of .. jmho

 

[Hope4More]

But Ross and his wife both seemed to worry it might happen to them. I find that very strange that it was their biggest fear and yet he did nothing to prevent it from happening. Even though 2 weeks earlier he posted how it'd be so 'horrible if my son was in that hot car. '

How do you know they did nothing to prevent it happening? And that it wasn't just a tragic (unintentional) reality that RH failed to do so on that one day?

I also wonder (meant generally) why it is that peeps seem to believe RH at face value when what he says can be interpreted as damning, but disbelieve anything he says that can be interpreted as exculpatory?

The quote by him you include can be interpreted, imo, as his acknowledging he was aware that such deaths could happen- as in, he's telling LE he knew these deaths happened, and he found the very thought of it happening to Cooper "horrible," which made it all the more inexplicable to HIM that he could have been responsible for Cooper dying such a terrible death.

Few of us here (including me) seem to have any great understanding of FBS. Why would anyone expect RH to have that understanding, especially just hours after he found his baby dead and facing suspicious LE, when he was still on figuring out and explaining how he could have "forgotten" Cooper?

 

[arkansasmimi]

Court back

 

[minor4th]

I don't think he's a quack, actually. And I'm not speaking about the court's threshold. Scientifically speaking, there has never been independent research or studies on his theory. IMO, his theory as it stands, due to no research having been done...equates to an educated guess. Court's allow scientists to make educated guesses all the time. (For example frontal lobe science.)

Obviously, we can respectfully agree to disagree. No problems with that.

I know nothing about this guy or the science behind his testimony. I'll wait til I hear what he has to say before deciding whether he is persuasive and credible.

I was just pointing out that know-nothings can't just walk in and testify as an expert just because they label themselves as such. There are standards that have to be met to assure their reliability before they testify.

 

[Hope4More]

Umm the Expert has testified that he got all information from Det Phil Stoddard.

I think I'm going to need a backup hinky meter. Mine is getting thoroughly worn out at this point.

 

[minor4th]

Not sure what to think of "malicious intent". I tend to believe Raissey more than Stoddard. But if you listen to the recording after Ross supposedly said that, it just doesn't line up.

Either way, this doesn't convince me that Ross had researched child cruelty in preparation for a premeditated murder.

 

[katydid23]

How do you know they did nothing to prevent it happening? And that it wasn't just a tragic (unintentional) reality that RH failed to do so on that one day?

I also wonder (meant generally) why it is that peeps seem to believe RH at face value when what he says can be interpreted as damning, but disbelieve anything he says that can be interpreted as exculpatory?

The quote by him you include can be interpreted, imo, as his acknowledging he was aware that such deaths could happen- as in, he's telling LE he knew these deaths happened, and he found the very thought of it happening to Cooper "horrible," which made it all the more inexplicable to HIM that he could have been responsible for Cooper dying such a terrible death.

Few of us here (including me) seem to have any great understanding of FBS. Why would anyone expect RH to have that understanding, especially just hours after he found his baby dead and facing suspicious LE, when he was still on figuring out and explaining how he could have "forgotten" Cooper?

BBM

How do I know he didn't do anything to prevent it?

Well, he said as much. Number one, he said he didn't even take that 'second look' that he was aware of, as a state wide awareness campaign.

Number 2, he did nothing, even though he admitted to knowing about preventative measure like putting a shoe in the back seat or ones briefcase in the back seat or having a mirror that shows the baby seat or putting a post it note or buying a baby car seat alarm....etc etc...

Number 3, he took part in a lot of distracting type of behaviors/interactions during the time he was in charge of caring for his baby. Even though he knew he was easily distracted he did nothing to to insure it would not happen to him that day, as he knew he was tired and especially distracted.

Number 4, He stopped taking pictures of Cooper when he dropped him off to daycare to send to his wife. Continuing that preventative measure could have saved his son's life.

 

[JerseyGirl]

The state calls Walter Pineda to the witness stand.

Pineda does video analysis and photography.

He’s done this since 1989, including enhancing video footage. He’s testified as an expert in more than 50 cases.

Pineda was asked to look at two videos of the Home Depot parking lot where Harris’ car was parked with Cooper inside. He zoomed in to blow up images from the surveillance.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Info regarding tomorrow' viewing of the car:

Judge and lawyers set ground rules for jurors viewing the car on Thursday. Judge decides they will be able to walk around twice with the door closed, walk around twice with the doors open and then observe the car freely for up to five minutes. They are not to sit inside the vehicle or touch the vehicle at any time.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/ross-harr...the-ross-harris-hot-car-death-trial/460765362

 

[blue22]

The state calls Walter Pineda to the witness stand.

Pineda does video analysis and photography.

He’s done this since 1989, including enhancing video footage. He’s testified as an expert in more than 50 cases.

Pineda was asked to look at two videos of the Home Depot parking lot where Harris’ car was parked with Cooper inside. He zoomed in to blow up images from the surveillance.

I'm only able to follow testimony sporadically today. Thanks for keeping us updated!

 

[Hope4More]

Not sure what to think of "malicious intent". I tend to believe Raissey more than Stoddard. But if you listen to the recording after Ross supposedly said that, it just doesn't line up.

Either way, this doesn't convince me that Ross had researched child cruelty in preparation for a premeditated murder.

What would be good to know is if it is standard CAP procedure to have a photographer take photos of a suspect's clothes etc. before he has been formally charged. I find that odd.

If he had a legitimate, routine reason for being in the room, my next question would be how it was he could have been completely unaware of the commotion going on around him relating to a dead baby case that had already been on the news. After that I wonder about that confirmation bias thing.

IMO he knew more about the case than he's admitted to, knew Stoddard was in full warrior mode, thought RH seemed too unemotional, misinterpreted what he heard by RH as suspicious, and was cued by Stoddard to start filming what Stoddard was well aware of would look damning, but knew could be problematic because it came after RH had invoked. jmo.

 

[katydid23]

What is going on? I just hear random noises? Are they talking at all? Or is my feed screwed up?
ETA--never mind,lol

 

[AuntB]

BBM

How do I know he didn't do anything to prevent it?


Number 4, He stopped taking pictures of Cooper when he dropped him off to daycare to send to his wife. Continuing that preventative measure could have saved his son's life.

RSBM

Reading Number 4, it just hit me that RH & LH didn't need any law requiring daycare to call them, they'd already used a system that should've saved Cooper's life had Ross not discontinued the practice--and presumably LH "let" him.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Boring is now showing the blown up images of the parking lot and Harris’ SUV to the jury.

 

[Maisiebelle]

So JRH didn't turn around when he walked away from the car?


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[JerseyGirl]

The images show Harris walking away from the vehicle.

Rodriguez with the defense is now cross examining Pineda. Boring actually reached out and initially contacted Pineda to request him to enhance the video.

What areas of the video did you feel you would be able to do enhancements? Rodriguez said. Where Harris was walking, Pineda said.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Was there anything you were able to see on the enhancements that you couldn’t see on the original video? Rodriguez said.

Yes, movement of the person in the video a little closer, Pineda responded.

Rodriguez points out that there is glare on the windshield. If there was a better angle, there might not have been glare, he said. That’s correct, Pineda said.

The prosecution, Rodriguez said, never asked Pineda to enhance any images of the people who walked by Harris’ SUV to identify them.

Videos tell their own story, sometimes they’re open to interpretation right? Rodriguez said. Right, Pineda responded. Sometimes they tell a full story, and sometimes it depends on the angle, the attorney said.

 

[GA_Peach]

BBM

How do I know he didn't do anything to prevent it?

Well, he said as much. Number one, he said he didn't even take that 'second look' that he was aware of, as a state wide awareness campaign.

Number 2, he did nothing, even though he admitted to knowing about preventative measure like putting a shoe in the back seat or ones briefcase in the back seat or having a mirror that shows the baby seat or putting a post it note or buying a baby car seat alarm....etc etc...

Number 3, he took part in a lot of distracting type of behaviors/interactions during the time he was in charge of caring for his baby. Even though he knew he was easily distracted he did nothing to to insure it would not happen to him that day, as he knew he was tired and especially distracted.

Number 4, He stopped taking pictures of Cooper when he dropped him off to daycare to send to his wife. Continuing that preventative measure could have saved his son's life.

I wish that I could like this post a thousand times. :loveyou:

 

[Hope4More]

can't deal with this testimony of possibly seeing Cooper move in the car.